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Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

IIRC there was some backstory about iron boats or something and missiles

Tell me more about that poo poo

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Trying
Sep 26, 2019

That may have been JR Tolkien's actual life

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
The earliest extant version of the Fall of Gondolin include descriptions of things that sound an awful lot like tanks. I believe it was literally written in the trenches of WWI.

I can't point to specific sources, but I recall reading somewhere that in some of his papers the Numenoreans at their height had ironclad warships and guns and poo poo like that, which is why they could whup Sauron at the height of his power in the Second Age.

Pretty fuckin' steampunk.

Lemniscate Blue fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Apr 27, 2020

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWtuKm6C1Sw

Seems pretty sci-fi to me

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
An elf kills the biggest dragon ever by ramming his cool spaceship into it.

font color sea
Jan 23, 2017

Expelliarmus!
LoTR is actually the history of British Isles that was revealed by elves to an Anglo-Saxon sailor and written down by monks

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.
It's pretty obvious man, they spend the last two movies taking the ring to a volcano with a talking hologram

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Pillbug
Lord of the Rings actually takes place in the future after a big nuclear and chemical war has destroyed technological civilization and caused elves and other freaks to appear through mutations.

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

font color sea posted:

LoTR is actually the history of British Isles that was revealed by elves to an Anglo-Saxon sailor and written down by monks

Aragon is essentially King Arthur's ancestor

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Mooey Cow posted:

Lord of the Rings actually takes place in the future after a big nuclear and chemical war has destroyed technological civilization and caused elves and other freaks to appear through mutations.
Isnt that just the Shannara books??

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
The line between SciFi and fantasy is extremely thin imo, just look at the series that inspired this whole sub

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

That's just science fact

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Was West Wing Science Fiction or Fantasy?

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

SlothfulCobra posted:

Was West Wing Science Fiction or Fantasy?

Political science fact

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

SlothfulCobra posted:

Was West Wing Science Fiction or Fantasy?

Fantasy. You'll never get a conversation that snappy in the workplace.

Jostiband
May 7, 2007

Lemniscate Blue posted:

The earliest extant version of the Fall of Gondolin include descriptions of things that sound an awful lot like tanks. I believe it was literally written in the trenches of WWI.

I can't point to specific sources, but I recall reading somewhere that in some of his papers the Numenoreans at their height had ironclad warships and guns and poo poo like that, which is why they could whup Sauron at the height of his power in the Second Age.

In one of the unfinished tales Sauron trolls them into building a space navy so they can storm the heavens; its p. metal tbh

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

As a casual fan I genuinely don't know if you're loving with him

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Professor Shark posted:

IIRC there was some backstory about iron boats or something and missiles

Tell me more about that poo poo

In earlier versions of The Hobbit it took place pretty much in the time Tolkien was writing it with cars/etc.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006


Fun fact: in Paradise Lost, the rebel angels use cannons during the War in Heaven.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
A giant spider evicted everyone from heaven so, you know, that guy with the hard-on for spiders in 90s blockbusters was kind of on the nose.

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

Middle Earth is just a world that's blocked off from the rest of the universe by a warp storm, iirc

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Daikloktos
Jan 1, 2020

by Cyrano4747
The corrupting influence of Melkor interferes with the functioning of approaching Spelljammers

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