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I can understand the LNP pushing that, it's a cute little relief tidbit and it lands well. Their climate change denial is another example of them just straight up lying if they don't want to bother dealing with the reality of a situation, so them pushing blatantly false and dangerous things to help their own optics is 100% par for the course.. but why the gently caress was the rest of the world pretending like it was anything other than scrambling for purchase, head in the sand poo poo? You had people vigorously arguing about it months ago, using less supporting evidence than even the 5g conspiracy nuts "Kids can't get covid" has always felt like one of those bizarre inimical memes to me, like teenagers trying to convince strangers online to microwave their phones or mix ammonia and bleach in the bathroom
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You guys realise there was a study in NSW that suggested low rates of transmission among children yeah?
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Theres been a study suggesting every possible outcome under the sun and its polar opposite You can cherry pick what you want but we are talking about at the very early days when nobody knew sweet gently caress all about covid except that it was looking scary as gently caress, and then one of the million studies that comes out suddenly takes off and the same people who are whinging about covid restrictions in the first place are waving this link around like it's a golden ticket to the chocolate factory It's basically Nostradamus batch printing vague predictions and you have four million desperate parents rummaging through old warehouses of them looking for a free pass e: i dont know why I'm saying "very early days" as though we aren't still in them, relatively speaking. Just that cherry picking evidence for personal/political gain is pretty lame and I don't think Cool Dudes and Dudettes do such a thing Sulla Faex fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Jul 13, 2020 |
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CelestialScribe posted:You guys realise there was a study in NSW that suggested low rates of transmission among children yeah? Would you like to hear my theory on the shape of the earth?
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I know that extremely short memories is one of the defining AusPol characteristics but I posted very early on about the virus being found in children's rectal swaps weeks after there are no signs of it in their respiratory tract. It wasn't this article but none the less:- https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...n-idUSKBN2102Y2 A lot of science is being done on this and definite answers are a long way off. It does still seem like children can't just be completely discounted as transmission vectors. What a shame that all public health measures have to be put into level one literacy language for our political representatives. Like the current bullshit in NSW around hotels and the ongoing poo poo fest that is representative football of all codes.
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Jul 14, 2020 01:07
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CelestialScribe posted:You guys realise there was a study in NSW that suggested low rates of transmission among children yeah? There were also studies that suggested an anti-malaria drug that violently savages your entire body with the side-effects best described as "not much different from Malaria" would help in dealing with the coronavirus, and a follow-up that went "Actually it might make things worse"
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CelestialScribe posted:You guys realise there was a study in NSW that suggested low rates of transmission among children yeah? Yes, and we all understand that you were happy to risk childrens lives as soon as there was a hint that it might be ok to do so.
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CelestialScribe posted:You guys realise there was a study in NSW that suggested low rates of transmission among children yeah? Cope
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A second border is being set up at Wagga. Town is full of ADF.
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https://twitter.com/QandA/status/1282652921918664706 The answer might not surprise you!
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https://www.smh.com.au/national/abysmal-arrogance-and-privilege-balmain-lawyer-ordered-to-pay-neighbour-300-000-20200706-p559d2.html The gentrified suburb of Balmain boasts water views and "elites" in "elite homes", a Sydney judge has said, but it is also home to a bitter neighbourhood feud that has cost one woman more than $300,000 in damages and a judicial dressing-down. In an excoriating judgment on Monday, NSW Supreme Court Justice Stephen Rothman said lawyer Vanessa Hutley of Balmain had bullied her neighbour, builder Anthony Cosco, and defamed him in an A Current Affair broadcast in which she accused him of putting "my family through hell". laffo
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The Peccadillo posted:https://twitter.com/QandA/status/1282652921918664706 Lol, we had some families on a lower payment and some grandfathered into a higher payment so the only fair thing to do was to put them all on the lower payment gently caress off idiot (to be clear the idiot that should gently caress off is the hon julia gillard AC, not forums user pecadillo) Solemn Sloth fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Jul 14, 2020 |
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Senor Tron posted:Yes, and we all understand that you were happy to risk childrens lives as soon as there was a hint that it might be ok to do so. Care to explain this ridiculous post?
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CelestialScribe posted:You guys realise there was a study in NSW that suggested low rates of transmission among children yeah? The study of 18 cases in schools is hardly comprehensive or even a study. If the test wasn't unpleasant then they would swab all of them but they're not. Schools have been shutting down for magical deep cleaning and kids isolating for a few days. By and large they are not getting tested when there is a positive case in schools. It's following Trump logic where there will be less cases if they do less testing. People would genuinely panic if you reported double digit cases in schools.
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I'm also puzzled as to why in Victoria it's only Year 11 and 12 going back to school when even if you reckon kids can't get coronavirus, 17 and 18 year olds aren't "kids." I have a couple of acquaintances who are teachers and now that we're back to Zoom drinks they were saying there's just absolutely zero social distancing going on. Utterly impossible to enforce regardless of the ages of the kids.
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Doc Holliday posted:The study of 18 cases in schools is hardly comprehensive or even a study. If the test wasn't unpleasant then they would swab all of them but they're not. Schools have been shutting down for magical deep cleaning and kids isolating for a few days. By and large they are not getting tested when there is a positive case in schools. My point is that it wasn't just "uhhhh let's open schools because we can". The libs definitely used that finding to their advantage and stretched the truth on it but it wasn't like they were the only ones saying that kids appeared to have fewer symptoms and/or didn't catch it as much.
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freebooter posted:I'm also puzzled as to why in Victoria it's only Year 11 and 12 going back to school when even if you reckon kids can't get coronavirus, 17 and 18 year olds aren't "kids." The argument is that Zoom teaching straight up isn't as good as in-person, and year 11 and 12s are theoretically old enough to understand distancing and at an extremely important stage of education, so the benefits outweigh the risks. Whether or not one accepts those arguments is a different matter, but those are the arguments.
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CelestialScribe posted:Care to explain this ridiculous post?
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CelestialScribe posted:My point is that it wasn't just "uhhhh let's open schools because we can". The libs definitely used that finding to their advantage and stretched the truth on it but it wasn't like they were the only ones saying that kids appeared to have fewer symptoms and/or didn't catch it as much. I did a study and it turns out you are the world's most incorrect person. It's a piece of outlying datum that might not "mesh" with most other studies, and my methodology is suspect to say the least, but feel free to run with this study and make egregious decisions vis a vis your future posting habits Now, take this, and instead of your bad take on an internet forum, let's pretend we are talking about potentially killing a lot of people. Doesn't seem super responsible, does it?
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Hmm. Tradie friend and a school teacher mate have both been told to prepare for some time at home come Monday. I wonder if they’re going to move to stage 4.
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Sulla Faex posted:I did a study and it turns out you are the world's most incorrect person. It's a piece of outlying datum that might not "mesh" with most other studies, and my methodology is suspect to say the least, but feel free to run with this study and make egregious decisions vis a vis your future posting habits I never said it was responsible?
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Take a long slow minute, think about your point to all this, and then please try to explain it
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The original accusation was that the libs just decided that "kids can't get covid", that they pushed that message because they simply didn't want to deal with the problem. My point is that they cherry picked a piece of data, and used it irresponsibly - but it was a piece of data that was being considered seriously by the scientific community at the time. Including health professionals in Australia.
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Was it though? You got a source for that or what Because it's not cherry picking evidence if the broader scientific community says "this is real, this is statistically relevant, and we should definitely factor it into policy decisions", so that seems somewhat of an contradiction in terms, no?
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Sulla Faex posted:Was it though? You got a source for that or what I didn't say the broader scientific community. I said health professionals in Australia - the state heads of health in NSW and QLD specifically. We talked about it in this thread at the time.
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CelestialScribe posted:I didn't say the broader scientific community. I said health professionals in Australia - the state heads of health in NSW and QLD specifically. We talked about it in this thread at the time. Other studies and evidence were brought to the thread's attention. It doesn't matter at this stage. We know kids can get it. I wasn't spending time with anyone who had children before this lockdown and I won't after it either. Hopefully we learn some lessons from this debacle as far as taking a holistic approach to curbing spread in the future. It's a shame that we've had a lot of containment fuckups but we've probably got good data on speed of transfer via work, social stuff (even with distancing allegedly being practiced) and school.
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Vaccine trials from UQ have started today apparently. I have been trying to avoid anything non essential in terms of news for mental health reasons, but you can't escape the alumni newsletter I guess.
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Zenithe posted:but you can't escape the alumni newsletter I guess. They will loving track you down no matter where you go or how long it's been. I'm surprised graveyards aren't just full of them delivered to the corpses of alumni
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I totally loving forgot Pell had his conviction quashed, but now that I remember it it was right in the week when Everything Changed
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freebooter posted:I totally loving forgot Pell had his conviction quashed, but now that I remember it it was right in the week when Everything Changed
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freebooter posted:I totally loving forgot Pell had his conviction quashed, but now that I remember it it was right in the week when Everything Changed It's not 2261 though?! https://youtu.be/lbkzoN6cjrY On the serious side, turns out that was just another filling in the poo poo sandwich that is 2020
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Zenithe posted:Vaccine trials from UQ have started today apparently. I have been trying to avoid anything non essential in terms of news for mental health reasons, but you can't escape the alumni newsletter I guess. Lmao this got me too
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X13Fen posted:It's not 2261 though?! 
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