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Cease to Hope posted:40K got up its own rear end at least a decade ago and half the fans are unironic fascists. i kind of like the models and aesthetic but nobody can afford them and nobody with any sense wants to play with the other people who play it. they've put out some great model lines in the last few years, especially Death Guard, so if you like to paint angry little men infested with maggots and eels then this is the golden age of the hobby it's still insanely expensive and likely to get moreso not all the fans are fash but way too many of them are but seriously, check these dudes out:
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# ¿ May 5, 2020 16:50 |
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Relevant Tangent posted:Seems like a dumb take, you're letting the people who say things like purge the xenos in the emperor's name on twitter ruin letting little plastic and/or metal things fight to the death while drinking a brewski or soda with your buds. The vast majority of people I've met in the fandom don't let the unironic fascists play with them and the unironic fascists tend to be bad at the game so they're not winning tournaments with their 'completely canon SM chapter that uses the swastika' or whatever. I think it's fun to paint models, then fight with those models, and the people who are unironic fascists can be dealt with appropriately ostracized/punched depending on ability. This is the right take, but keep in mind that some of the major online 40k personalities, and some of the companies that cater to the 40k hobby, have some really fashy tendencies. If you care enough to check you can go post in the tradgames subforum, there's basically a list of the major offenders but I don't know it well because I only dabble in the hobby. One example, though, is a company called GreenStuffWorld that sells modeling supplies and they got caught out selling fascist iconography and were really pissy about it when they got enough bad publicity to force them to get rid of the worst of it, and they may have reintroduced it anyway. It's really depressing that a hobby consisting of painting little plastic transhuman soldiers, critters straight out of the Alien franchise and Tolkienesque orks that fly about the galaxy with axes and machine guns requires vigilance to keep track of fascists if you don't want to give the wrong person money/retweets/views etc.
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# ¿ May 18, 2020 01:33 |
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Yeah, TM has the right of it. "the hobby is just fash etc etc" is, like I said, an angle usually taken by people with an axe to grind. Same as the more specific "GW is dying" "the models are bad now", and "no one can afford to buy in". what the gently caress most of the newer plastics rule imo apart from some really cheesy dynamic posing at times some of the primaris are too much of a departure for some players but that doesn't mean the models aren't great from a technical perspective Senator Drinksalot posted:Orks are the most fun part of both Warhammer settings absolutely the new rules even let you kamikaze the enemy with your fliers
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# ¿ May 19, 2020 05:47 |
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Cerv posted:are they still not bringing Squats back? Squats never existed and we have always been at war with Eurasia
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# ¿ May 20, 2020 01:54 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:
imo Genestealer Cults fixed that problem to an extent a cult infestation taking place over several human generations utilizing intrigue, class consciousness, espionage and genetic manipulation to undermine a planet's loyalty to the Imperium, all to pave the way for an easier and more successful invasion and ultimate consumption of all biomass by said faceless horde is more interesting than just having the faceless horde invade and eat everything also people worshiping the Four-Armed Emperor might be the funniest non-ork thing in 40k
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# ¿ May 21, 2020 02:34 |
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Mordja posted:Surprised no one's brought up the Astartes CGI fan films. They tell an intriguing, minimalist sci-fi story seemingly removed from other 40k fiction. I honestly think they're better than similar fan creations because of it, and because there's genuinly impressive cinematography involved, not just cool graphics & action. Definitely some Dredd influence to it. Astartes is really impressive.There is an honesty about it regarding the dark source material that is way beyond what I think Games Workshop would be willing to produce and release. It's not actually removed from 40k fiction btw, those gold mask psykers are pretty obscure but already part of the canon (I don't know poo poo about it, I just know it's an established faction).
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# ¿ May 22, 2020 05:38 |
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twistedmentat posted:Yea, Tyranids and Genestealers were separate until very late in Rogue Trader. But you're right, Tyranids are kind of boring because the faceless hoard is a more interesting idea than it is an actual thing. Why they decided to start having Necrons with character. Also Genestealer Cults are like the coolest army right now. It's taking all my will power to not build an army of them. I'm already commited to too many armies ;Ultramarines, Space Wolves, Imperial Guard, Iron Warriors, Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Necrons, Tau, Custodes, Eldar, Mechanicus and Sisters. To be fair, most of these armies are pretty much done and I don't need to buy anything new for them unless there are new releases. If I wasn't poor as gently caress I'd consider doing Death Guard, Chaos Marines, Genestealer Cults and AdMech armies. They all have fantastic models but putting together a 2000 point list for any of them apart from Death Guard looks like it would cost over $500. Orks are the bestest but I used to play them in the early aughts and wouldn't consider starting them again until they update the ancient parts of the model lineup.
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# ¿ May 22, 2020 05:44 |
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Cease to Hope posted:
The only solace for me is that you can get great, relatively cheap Death Guard models from people selling half of Dark Millenium and Chaos Marines from half of Shadowspear because vendors split the kits up and sell individual units on Ebay
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# ¿ May 22, 2020 05:59 |
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Laterite posted:Squats rule squat, Tyranids drool acid and pheromones
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# ¿ May 22, 2020 22:55 |
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Schadenboner posted:The AdMech also took some of this “space” as the Machine God became more of a literal thing and less of A Canticle For Liebowitz. Now that I’m thinking on it, is sort of like the Jews I guess (two gods that were, mostly for political reasons, declared to be selfsame/equivalent so that some sort of uncomfortable coexistence was possible based on mutual need of both parties). But the AdMech is powerful and Jews were not, so the place of Squats-as-Jews in the Imperium sort of makes more sense? I think the AdMech see the Omnessiah as an aspect of the Emperor, Hindu-style, rather than a Christian/Jewish thing
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# ¿ May 25, 2020 15:12 |
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Internet Kraken posted:Distinct lack of 40k art in this thread
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# ¿ May 31, 2020 16:55 |
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Hodgepodge posted:iirc the official policy is that time itself isn't consistent in the setting, let alone records of what happened and how very little of the nuts and bolts of the 40k universe is consistent either a imperator titan is 40 meters tall in one book and 110 meters tall in another, it's all up to the authors in some books a few squads of space marines are all that's needed to conquer planets full of humans and in other books you'll have one normal human dude who single-handedly murders several chaos marines, an ork warboss, and a tyranid broodlord whilst armed with nothing but a chainsaw sword, a dinky little laser pistol and a flippant attitude
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2020 10:03 |
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Sanguinia posted:I went with sisters of battle because their tank is a pipe organ that shoots missiles out of its pipes. I like how the new SoB models crank that poo poo to 11 tag urself, I'm the skull cherub
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2020 00:42 |
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Sanguinia posted:I'm the lovingly hand-made artisan candles. Imagine being in a tank rumbling through a full-scale war zone, poo poo exploding all around you, and right behind you there's a bunch of loving candles. If I could freehand worth a drat I'd try to put the Virgin Mary on the candles
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2020 04:55 |
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Caidin posted:So is that cherub like an ornament or is it a free spirited skull drone thing that'll wander off if they don't chain it to the tank? the chain is just a modeling structural support so the cherub servitor can look like it's flying, it makes about as much sense as anything else on the model Filthy Hans fucked around with this message at 14:09 on Jun 13, 2020 |
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twistedmentat posted:Vroooom vroom! in space, no one can hear you scream because they all have tinnitus
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2020 03:04 |
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Tulip posted:This has reminded me of one of my favorite goonhammer quotes the combat doctrines nerf came down mere weeks after the new Dark Angels stuff and it hit them particularly hard a real cock punch
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2020 23:54 |
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Cease to Hope posted:Those new models are neat, and definitely have a more religious vibe than the previous ones. They remind me a lot of the original Adeptus Ministorum line. beaky mask best mask
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2020 05:47 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I'd be happy with GW releasing any new guardsmen. The basic catachans look bad and the basic cadians lack even their goofy charm. it's a huge opportunity to introduce female soldiers to the Guard, which can't come soon enough I think GW is savvy enough to integrate the Guard units in the next redesign but otoh who knows how far down the priorities list those redesigns will be also Cadia's dead as disco so who knows who will be the primary faction for the new models I just hope it's not Catachans again
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2020 15:40 |
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Mordja posted:I also love Admech's pulp sci-fi stuff. Some people think the Kastelan looks stupid. These look great apart from the heads, an Admech robot should have a billion different types of sensors, lenses, echolocators, etc. crammed in there instead of a 50's retro faceplate
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2020 15:46 |
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Cease to Hope posted:Don't get me wrong, I do like the retro stylings of the new AdMech robots. There's a neat contrast between the clean, functional, traditional things they clearly revere unquestioningly, and the absolutely bonkers gribbly crap that is obviously an experiment in progress. woah
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2020 20:55 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Ironic thing is the Space Marines are statistically the least loyal of the Imperium's military forces while the Sisters are the most by a long shot how much of the Mechanicum turned traitor during the heresy, was it proportional to the Astartes
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