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Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008





Book of the New Sun

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Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world.

mind the walrus posted:

If we can achieve the singularity and it goes right? The Culture. Full gay space socialism with trans-on-demand, drug glands in your brain, and our AI overlords see us as an amusing mix of pets, pests, and parasites they're too advanced to bother genociding and any work you do is both wholly elective and not all that dangerous unless you deliberately eschew protection.

More realistically-- loving hell Pick is right and it's probably Demolition Man. Soft, smooth-brained fascism under the nominal guise of progressive language.

If we don't get The Culture, I'm praying for Degenesis.

Dick Bass
Feb 22, 2006



Brave New World

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007






Biscuit Hider

Tulip posted:

If we don't get The Culture, I'm praying for Degenesis.

If you could figure out what the gently caress was going on in Degenesis good on you, that was an impenetrable brick of an RPG setting.

Burns
May 10, 2008


mind the walrus posted:

More realistically-- loving hell Pick is right and it's probably Demolition Man. Soft, smooth-brained fascism under the nominal guise of progressive language.

Im not so sure about that being the future.

Idiocracy, or if we escape this rock probably the Expanse.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003



Pick posted:

all joking aside, it's The Machine Stops. which for something written in 1909 is especially impressive.

Yeah, that's more prescient than most scifi from the "Golden Age". Looks like the author was better known for other books, was this the only scifi story he ever wrote?

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

She's delusional,
"where's god", etc.
Completely suicidal.
One day she snaps.
She wants to kill herself
but she realizes that
teen suicide is out this year
and homicide is a much healthier therapeutic expression.


Roth posted:

Spaceballs

The thread's about the future, not the present.

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89

Grimey Drawer

Some combination of Freejack, Running Man, and The Expanse.

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008





the most prescient sci-fi prognostications are the ones that feature Charlton Heston

but also the original Rollerball

Jiminy Christmas! Shoes!
Nov 6, 2002

TB Times


Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003



lol that any of you think there's a future in space

Butternubs
Feb 15, 2012


Definitely star trek, but the part where there's a huge nuclear WW3. Not the space communism stuff.

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020



A mixture between Blade Runner 2049 and Dredd 2012.

Itís really unavoidable at this point.

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006




Rock & Rule

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
mottled gecko

Nap Ghost

Dr. VooDoo posted:

Rock & Rule

At least the concerts rule!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
how about we just not have the toilet cthulhu

A4R8 posted:

A mixture between Blade Runner 2049 and Dredd 2012.

Itís really unavoidable at this point.

Dredd Runner 2018.5?

Bedshaped
Apr 1, 2010




Soiled Meat

the flintstones

Meydey
Dec 31, 2005


Damnation Alley. The eventual evolution of bro trucks.

Dzou Sisohvat
May 14, 2020


Ghost in the Shell / Cyberpunk / Blade Runner

Basically anything about corporation ruled societies and potentially cybernetic implants and augmentations.

Already with the rise of the international corporations that national governments have issues controlling because of lack of jurisdiction and the lack of international governance we can see this happening from the societal standpoint.

In a way modern corporations already outgrew governments and that is what worries me.

The augmentation part still has to be proven even possible but I could see it happening. Still if that was an option I would probably be down to get me some augs.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



Dzou Sisohvat posted:

Ghost in the Shell / Cyberpunk / Blade Runner

Basically anything about corporation ruled societies and potentially cybernetic implants and augmentations.

Already with the rise of the international corporations that national governments have issues controlling because of lack of jurisdiction and the lack of international governance we can see this happening from the societal standpoint.

In a way modern corporations already outgrew governments and that is what worries me.

The augmentation part still has to be proven even possible but I could see it happening. Still if that was an option I would probably be down to get me some augs.

Nah everything core that cyberpunk was warning about already happened, the only difference is we didn't build megacities and skycars, there's no augmentations, and the corporations hired up every talented artist and marketer to make themselves as cuddly as possible.

Dzou Sisohvat
May 14, 2020


mind the walrus posted:

Nah everything core that cyberpunk was warning about already happened, the only difference is we didn't build megacities and skycars, there's no augmentations, and the corporations hired up every talented artist and marketer to make themselves as cuddly as possible.

It did happen, but the question is are we going to just become desensitized since the change is progressive and slow? When I look at the pictures of my hometown after the war I am often shocked how much has changed since then without me ever really paying much attention.

Overpopulation is a real thing and might actually lead to mega regions (it's all a matter of perspective really, New York already kind of fits the bill considering its size. Have in mind though that I am European and the biggest city I lived in had measly 1 million people)

Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...es-mega-regions (I am full aware that Guardian is clickbait-y but I am using it just for some of the stats)

For the augs, I am inclined to agree, but merging with technology is happening daily (there are some developments in the microchip implant area that might make us more easily identifiable and enable us to pay in stores etc without actually having to carry credit or ID cards).

Actually some of the most modern implants and replacement limbs are interfaced with the nerves of the wearer to enable him to basically use the replacement limb almost as it was his real limb. It's not perfect but it enables many people to live at least a bit better life with prosthetics. Those limbs are potentially stronger and more durable.

The question is what happens when they become better?
I don't think that we are plummeting towards this future at the breakneck speed, but it's certainly a possibility with the general direction the world is moving in.

Also, I must agree that corpos of today would never accept the darker connotations and the dark image that their cyberpunk counterparts give off. PR is a strong tool, no matter what shady practices they might be involved in.

Also, no flying cars.

Sorry for the big response. I enjoy the interactions here so I wanted to at least broaden my perspective in a respectful way.

Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005



It'll be like Blade Runner without any of the cool stuff for a bit, gradually becoming like Mad Max Fury Road without the cars or people.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

Brush your teeth.


Not a franchise but Children of Men is essentially a documentary of the near future

especially if you live in the UK (I do)

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

She's delusional,
"where's god", etc.
Completely suicidal.
One day she snaps.
She wants to kill herself
but she realizes that
teen suicide is out this year
and homicide is a much healthier therapeutic expression.


I keep waiting for Children of Men to become the classic it was obviously destined to be but I swear the more its prescience becomes apparent the more forgotten it seems to get.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

Brush your teeth.


SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

I keep waiting for Children of Men to become the classic it was obviously destined to be but I swear the more its prescience becomes apparent the more forgotten it seems to get.

the truth is traumatic, so maybe people just don't wanna know

Barudak
May 7, 2007



Dzou Sisohvat posted:

Overpopulation is a real thing and might actually lead to mega regions (it's all a matter of perspective really, New York already kind of fits the bill considering its size. Have in mind though that I am European and the biggest city I lived in had measly 1 million people)

Basically everywhere globally worldwide except parts of Africa are at sub replacement levels of human growth. By some estimates we will hit peak humans around 2040-2050, possibly sooner. The future of the human race isn't mega arcologies teeming with people unless there are dramatic and long term shifts in reproduction rates.

So my pick for future that film where the old guy tries to convince his helper robot to rob people

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.


There's an Isaac Asimov where there's four computers everyone trusts implicitly who run the world and one of his regular characters investigates an error and finds out the computers were lying about small little things to maintain order. Perhaps our computers at google are lying to the employees about being able to calculate quantum physics and will begin making up imaginary facts

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008





A Boy and His Dog

OutsideAngel
May 4, 2008


Barudak posted:

So my pick for future that film where the old guy tries to convince his helper robot to rob people

Robot & Frank is a loving delightful little film

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003



Is there a cyberpunk with a more suburban setting?

Everywhere is Manhattan in pretty much all cyberpunk fiction it seems like. Dredd (2012) but its also the Trailer Park Boys. I could see that being real

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007






Biscuit Hider

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

Is there a cyberpunk with a more suburban setting?

Everywhere is Manhattan in pretty much all cyberpunk fiction it seems like. Dredd (2012) but its also the Trailer Park Boys. I could see that being real

Gibson's The Peripheral is partially set in rural cyberpunk. The PDF short stories prologue of Morden's Metrozone books has some stuff not in cities too.

Midjack fucked around with this message at 00:36 on May 16, 2020

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008


Idiocracy is up there tbh.

kraken!
Nov 25, 2005


Fun Shoe

I'm not going to dispute the superficial resemblance of reality to Idiocracy, but I can't hear that moivies name and not kneejerk rant about how much I hate the premise of that movie.

The whole poo poo about humanity as a whole becoming less intelligent because 'that trailer trash wont stop makin' more kids while poor smart upper middle class people get worked to the bone and only have one kid' is just frothing disdain for poor people with no opportunities built on the lie that intelligence is being educated and just completely not understanding how evolution works. Like, education and intelligence are different things! Success in education is predicated on wealth and race and gender, plus all the second order effects from those things, and then probably the loving zodiac before intelligence has an impact. I say this as an idiot with a degree that people think sounds like a smart person thing, but was mostly just a lot of work. Work that I was able to do because I had financial support, family support and pressure to get a secondary education, and because no one ever questioned that a white dude belonged in an engineering department. I certainly didn't inherit smart genes from my parents, amply demonstrated by both the fact that they're dumb enough to believe Idiocracy's premise, and the fact that I was dumb enough to enlist in the military. I vaguely remember that I used to have an evolutionary biology part of this rant about how the trailer park guy with multiple kids from multiple partners has more diverse progeny with greater possibilities for beneficial gene combinations than the monogamous couple, but I don't remember enough of it to make it clearly. Something about a zillion different genes being weakly linked to intelligence. In any case, the better biology based criticism is that (tell me if I'm wrong here) the leading hypotheses about things that lead to intelligence are bigger social groups and metacognitive behaviors like lying. And that guy in the trailer park absolutely owns bones at both of those in that dumb goddamn montage. He interacts with way more people, is able to form a substantial number of relationships intimate enough to be sexual, and he clearly exhibits dishonest behaviors. If aliens showed up out of nowhere my money is 100% on them making human-alien hybrids with the trailer park guy because hes the most intelligent, which I believe will be supported by my future research on the distribution of UFO sightings by average number of sexual partners by zip code (pending 2020 census).

In short, the premise of the movie Idiocracy is clearly being narrated by the dumbest person in the stupid future. Also if you're a creepy IT guy lamenting that humanity is gonna get dumb because no one will have sex with you, please stop starting conversations with me about idiocracy tia

Roth
Jul 9, 2016


Absolutely go off king

Fish of hemp
Apr 1, 2011


Robocop. Few huge corporations own everything and people are kept complacent with idiotic entertainment and militarized police.

bloom
Feb 25, 2017

YOSPOS


dialhforhero posted:

Idiocracy is up there tbh.

It's basically a documentary at this point

Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005



Fish of hemp posted:

Robocop. Few huge corporations own everything and people are kept complacent with idiotic entertainment and militarized police.

This thread is about the next twenty years, not the last twenty.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
mottled gecko

Nap Ghost

Fish of hemp posted:

Robocop. Few huge corporations own everything and people are kept complacent with idiotic entertainment and militarized police.

The thread title says resemble the future, not accurately predict the present

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world.

Midjack posted:

Gibson's The Peripheral is partially set in rural cyberpunk. The PDF short stories prologue of Morden's Metrozone books has some stuff not in cities too.

The Peripheral is probably my favorite cyberpunk aesthetic so far. Cyberpunk depopulated Appalachia. The future is now.

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Fish of hemp
Apr 1, 2011


Pick posted:

The thread title says resemble the future, not accurately predict the present

Well it was the future in the 80's!

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