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PeterCat posted:Let me preface this by saying what I am attempting to discuss is not some kind of Tucker Carlson-esque idea that there is hypocrisy in the reaction to police brutality based on the race of the victim. What I am trying to figure out is why a case that is much less ambiguous, a case that had the entire, unredacted bodycam footage released on Youtube, garners almost not response. Is it just because it's a poor man in a small town in a backwater state? Is it because that a white man being killed by white police in a majority white state doesn't really have a racial component to it and therefore isn't as newsworthy? because the police brutalize the gently caress out of the poor, particularly minorities. white people can never fathom themselves being poor or a minority. to them, it isn't "the police are preying on our community" it is "some bad person got what they deserved".
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:E) it makes it look like it should be firing .22 or something How many inches do you think 5.56 mm is.
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PeterCat posted:Let me preface this by saying what I am attempting to discuss is not some kind of Tucker Carlson-esque idea that there is hypocrisy in the reaction to police brutality based on the race of the victim. What I am trying to figure out is why a case that is much less ambiguous, a case that had the entire, unredacted bodycam footage released on Youtube, garners almost not response. Is it just because it's a poor man in a small town in a backwater state? Is it because that a white man being killed by white police in a majority white state doesn't really have a racial component to it and therefore isn't as newsworthy? I don’t know the answer to your question but I can tell you that solving the problem of police brutalizing minorities — mostly black people — will solve the problem of police brutalizing white people. I would not bank that solving police brutality for white people would benefit blacks people though. That said, my opinion is that one is a drop in the bucket in an ocean of racial injustice, and the other is a power trip. One gets coverage because a minority group is getting victimized with no justice so they speak out, and the other gets glossed over because at the end of the day, I’m white and the status quo is built for me.
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Xakura posted:How many inches do you think 5.56 mm is. Inches are dumb
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Woofer posted:I don’t know the answer to your question but I can tell you that solving the problem of police brutalizing minorities — mostly black people — will solve the problem of police brutalizing white people. I would not bank that solving police brutality for white people would benefit blacks people though. If nothing else the incident I linked is almost a control case. No racial issues present and the police still kill a man through incompetence and malice. Is it as simple as "Jackson County gonna Jackson County" and people move on with their day?
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Inches are dumb Exactly  I'm honestly kinda embarassed at how much this is blowing my mind.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:because the police brutalize the gently caress out of the poor, particularly minorities. white people can never fathom themselves being poor or a minority. to them, it isn't "the police are preying on our community" it is "some bad person got what they deserved". Yes. This is inflamed because the media narrative is always directed towards how responsible the victim was for their own death, and how complicit our communities, by name, are critiqued against white American stereotypes for our cultures and races.
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Wasabi the J posted:Yes. And let's be honest, the typical response from someone who would be best positioned to be empathetic in that case (poor, white, rural, limited education) is cheering when Trump tells police officers to rough up detainees. The event doesn't fit the narrative their social networks are interested in amplifying, so it will go nowhere.
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PeterCat posted:Let me preface this by saying what I am attempting to discuss is not some kind of Tucker Carlson-esque idea that there is hypocrisy in the reaction to police brutality based on the race of the victim. What I am trying to figure out is why a case that is much less ambiguous, a case that had the entire, unredacted bodycam footage released on Youtube, garners almost not response. Is it just because it's a poor man in a small town in a backwater state? Is it because that a white man being killed by white police in a majority white state doesn't really have a racial component to it and therefore isn't as newsworthy? a) white people haven't been systematically oppressed for centuries, so white people aren't as collectively outraged when they're the victims of police brutality b) even so, this absolutely should have garnered a response. the fact that there wasn't has no bearing on the response to the murder of George Floyd
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Guys. I can see the future. Congress will pass some really lame rear end bill that does nothing and call it the Floyd bill.
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ded posted:Guys. I can see the future. $400 advance tax credit for black small business owners who employ at least 4 people
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PeterCat posted:Let me preface this by saying what I am attempting to discuss is not some kind of Tucker Carlson-esque idea that there is hypocrisy in the reaction to police brutality based on the race of the victim. What I am trying to figure out is why a case that is much less ambiguous, a case that had the entire, unredacted bodycam footage released on Youtube, garners almost not response. Is it just because it's a poor man in a small town in a backwater state? Is it because that a white man being killed by white police in a majority white state doesn't really have a racial component to it and therefore isn't as newsworthy? Well, for one, I suspect it's not as huge news because, as much as the cops escalated and hosed it up and used unsafe positioning, when he goes pukes and then goes limp, they check his responsiveness, roll him, realize it's VERY BAD, and start attempting mediocre first aid. That's a far cry from calmly sitting there with knee on neck for minutes after the guy has gone limp and refusing to render any aid until EMTs show up. Second, maybe sincewhite people haven't been systematically abused and killed by cops as often, they're more likely to assume the best of cops.
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Hey wheres the guy who is NYPD and always shows up to tell us how NYPD is full of good people who do no wrong
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iwentdoodie posted:Hey wheres the guy who is NYPD and always shows up to tell us how NYPD is full of good people who do no wrong Tryzzub posted:probably all tuckered out from beating on protesters Let's play a game called don't start poo poo.
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People are pretty sure he's alt right as well. Probably also an incel. Let's go for the trifecta!
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Better a brony than a fascist bootlicker.
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MRC48B posted:Better a brony than a fascist bootlicker. These are not mutually exclusive.
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MRC48B posted:Better a brony than a fascist bootlicker. But he's both
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Actually you’re all wrong. He’s a pretzel.
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https://twitter.com/ali/status/1266622746571800576?s=19 Also my roommate couldn't sleep so they started looking at videos on a hunch and there are a ton of white dudes with clean boards doing a lot of the looting and vandalism. Are skateboards and backpacks like a standard loadout for punk rear end kids looking to start some poo poo?
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Friday night, Secret Service took Donnie to the bunker. ABC and WaPo confirmed it. https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1267237822169260032
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Woofer posted:Actually you’re all wrong.  I needed to laugh, thank you.So I've been ignoring news until the past few days for the sake of my sanity AND NOW find myself kind of needing to pay attention. Madison WI saw its own protests that went south last night, and most of State St. is super hosed. Over 75 shops trashed. It's okay though, we used to have yearly riots on Halloween just 'cause and bounced back just fine from those. Anyway, I realize like half the people here hate Dems and whatever but consider donating to this guy who is going up against McConnell: https://twitter.com/Booker4KY/status/1267241190639968257 The race isn't getting a lot of traction because it's loving Kentucky, but given the current atmosphere, why not try for the longshot? It's 2020, no rules apply. Or just throw money at various charities that are on the ground helping protesters. Here is a handy list of resources: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/ Hope everyone's doing okay.
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McNally posted:Let's play a game called don't start poo poo. guess NYPD didn’t get the memo https://twitter.com/AJRupchandani/status/1266889115288711168?s=20 (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Holy loving poo poo, I apologize for putting Antifa in my list up there. Should have thought before I posted.
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Christo, the artist known for draping buildings and making other giant art installations, died today.
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McNally posted:Let's play a game called don't start poo poo. Thin Blue Line (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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No mods no masters GIP riot 2020
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:No mods no masters You're hosed if I get deputized
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Riot Carol Danvers posted:But he's both Sorry, I phrased that wrong. Dunking on the guy because he likes a dumb children's cartoon show seems to me like a much smaller problem than the fact that he tried to stab a bunch of people with a sword. We give ICP fans and Furries a pass because they got on board with anti-facism. the same should apply to equine cartoon fetishists, or whatever weird poo poo he's into between consenting adults. gently caress this guy because he's a bootlicker who was willing to murder to protect property. Piling on his dumb nerdy fanfic hobby should not be done, even if it is slightly hypocritical, because that makes us the hypocrites, and alienates potential allies. The Right spent the last 70 years sewing together a big tent of racists, sexists, militarists, greedy sociopaths, and religious fanatics to get them in the position they are today. The left must take a similar approach.
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I'm just a dipshit white idiot living with my parents who are old enough that I'm scared of bringing coronavirus home, but I've been watching streams from protesters the last few days and it looks like they haven't been using counter strategies that protesters have been using in, for example, Hong Kong. I don't know how to get in contact with somebody who might be able to do something with this information. Things like traffic cones on tear gas grenades: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw1NeQPqNW4 Chanting time so people don't get trampled while retreating: https://twitter.com/antd/status/1155449766211280898 Bringing shields for the rubber bullets, umbrellas to block pepper spray, they've got a whole hand signal system, etc. There's all sorts of resources if you google for a couple minutes. A lot of them overlap, and some of them probably aren't as useful here, but it seems like employing some of these strategies would help keep them from getting dispersed by the police so easily. https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/g28928579/hong-kong-protest-methods/ https://www.newstatesman.com/world/2019/08/be-water-seven-tactics-are-winning-hong-kongs-democracy-revolution https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/blossom-everywhere-hong-kong-protesters-evolve-tactics https://medium.com/@roryireland/new-protest-tactics-in-hong-kong-674ae256af1 And that's just Hong Kong. There's probably more from other countries.
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ZombieApostate posted:I'm just a dipshit white idiot living with my parents who are old enough that I'm scared of bringing coronavirus home, but I've been watching streams from protesters the last few days and it looks like they haven't been using counter strategies that protesters have been using in, for example, Hong Kong. I don't know how to get in contact with somebody who might be able to do something with this information. By and large the protests are at their core peaceful. They're not expecting to walk into raining tear gas and walls of rubber flying at them. I'm sure if the organizers planned to become more confrontational they would suit up but even right now there's a lot of black protesters arguing with antifa-wannabe turds to stop trying to escalate.
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