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Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

i am harry posted:

all that time you have sitting by your snake infested lake with your wife and your cancelled cruise tickets

Y’all got burtcoronatitus

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BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


Pick posted:

where most of those households are 2 people. If there are two people with a combined net worth of a million dollars, each is referred to as a millionaire. even though a single person needs their own million to be called a millionaire. so the number of millionaire persons will be higher than 11.76, making 15% quite a conservative estimate overall.
we can extrapolate this further. by taking into account public property that we all own a little piece of such as tanks, government buildings, national parklands etc and dividing by the american population, our net worth increases dramatically

this isn't even taking into account such things as divorce. if a rich guy divorces his wife that wife then becomes rich under our laws. If that rich wife then marries and divorces another man that man becomes rich too. This is known as the transitive property. You can marry and divorce endlessly so this is a simple technique to generate potentially limitless wealth. There are 2 million marriages each year in the united states. Half of all marriages end in divorce so each year 1 million potential divorces occur. It takes two people to marry so that's two million people getting ready to divorce and generate limitless wealth each year !

finally we have to consider that we are all, as my pastor says, children of god. That guy's loaded! Once you account for the inheritance rights of the entire universe it becomes clear that even 20% would be conservative. Through simple math we see that 100% of the US populace have a net worth of at least a billion and maybe a trillion and we are only prevented from accessing our money thanks to the federal government. If you would like more info on how to access the billions of dollars you already own simply mail a letter with your bank account info, Social security number and any personal info you might use as a security question as a show of good faith to my waterfront mansion in San Francisco I bought with this method and I will mail you back the info free of charge!

Sophy Wackles
Dec 17, 2000

> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED.





There are a lot of families with $1M+ in net worth who aren't rich. If a family bought a home 40 years ago in somewhere like the bay area for $100k, they are now "millionaires" even if they can barely afford the property tax each month.

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

Pawn 17 posted:

There are a lot of families with $1M+ in net worth who aren't rich. If a family bought a home 40 years ago in somewhere like the bay area for $100k, they are now "millionaires" even if they can barely afford the property tax each month.

reverse mortgage baybee

RVWinkle
Aug 24, 2004

In relating the circumstances which have led to my confinement within this refuge for the demented, I am aware that my present position will create a natural doubt of the authenticity of my narrative.
Nap Ghost
Hey op, what's your side hustle? If you get a job as an Uber driver you'll stack enough paper in no time.

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread
They'd give up every penny to have a moment more of health. Remember that money cannot save them should covid hit them hard, not yet.

Are you young and reasonably healthy? Then you are wealthy in life even now in this wretched world.

Totally Huge
Mar 10, 2006

Cold brew got me like...

College Slice
Just make a deece six figgies, OP

Savington
Apr 9, 2007
I'm not Stinkmeister, this title is here so waar can tell the difference between Stinkmeister and myself in mafia games.

Zeinin posted:

How the hell are there enough jobs paying 200k+ to pay for all these 1m+ houses?

Stock. RSUs, ESPP, NSOs, ISOs, etc.

Worked at FB in 2012? 75k shares vesting over 4yrs at $38/share. Worth $212/share now, gain of $13m if you had the unholy foresight to hang onto every penny of it. Most people will sell it off over time and realize maybe 20% of that.

Amazon was worth $220/share in 2012. It's hovering in the $2300s today.

You can write these examples for just about every company in the bay. I have several friends who signed on at Tesla out of college in 2012 and own houses in the area now. None of them are struggling to pay the bills. Same with Apple, FB, MSFT, Amazon, etc. Twin $120k salaries is not an irregular household in the south bay. Combine that with a little "right place, right time" luck, and the numbers begin to work.

You pay for a $2m house on a $180k software engineer's salary by getting lucky, working at the right place at the right time, hitting a $500k IPO equity event, and depositing it all into a 3b2ba 1200sq.ft house 10min from work so you can comfortably spend the rest of your working life making that $180-200k without worry about the housing market again. That $500k is 30% down on a ~1.6m house, the $1.1m 30yr at 3.xx% + property taxes costs you $5700/mo, but if you are married on a $180k salary less $40k in state/federal (head of household) and $19k/yr to a 401k leaves you with $10k a month take-home. $4300/mo is tight, but it's enough money to do everything else if you aren't stupid with it (wife and I live here, combined salaries exceed that number, we spend less than that after housing). You're pinched for the first few years of ownership, and then you get a raise, and everything becomes more comfortable again.

After 30yrs you have a paid-off house and a 401K worth $1.5m+ to retire from. Stick around and live "frugally", or sell your nestegg, move anywhere in the country/world, and live like kings.

Might be too serious of an answer for GBS, but that's how it's done. I've lived here all my life, prices have been "crazy" as long as I can remember.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo
Careful,on your replies gbs...

Zeinin
May 7, 2003


edit: Too much info
Thanks for the post.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
poor joke, edited in fear of moderation

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost

This only works for the tiny handful that can afford and have the discipline to be patient. Most folks dabbling in trading will buy low, then see it increase a slight amount and immediately sell, just to make any profit. And honestly they're not wrong many times, but there are those exceptions that make everyone feel like fools.

E - I dont know what the mod warning is about but I never dabble in random stocks just like I never dabble on gambling because they're one and the same

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Lmao at having enough disposable money to gamble on stonks

SnoPuppy
Jun 15, 2005

Supreme Allah posted:

This only works for the tiny handful that can afford and have the discipline to be patient. Most folks dabbling in trading will buy low, then see it increase a slight amount and immediately sell, just to make any profit. And honestly they're not wrong many times, but there are those exceptions that make everyone feel like fools.

E - I dont know what the mod warning is about but I never dabble in random stocks just like I never dabble on gambling because they're one and the same

Not trading stock - being granted equity as a form of compensation for tech companies.

If you join some startup or early in a tech company, they often give stock grants instead of cash to keep people from jumping to the next hot thing. Then, assuming they don’t implode and you picked a unicorn, that initial grant can grow a huge amount like the examples of Amazon and Facebook.
Most of these deals are also structured so you get it over 4-5 years, so you’re forced to let it ride.

guidoanselmi
Feb 6, 2008

I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

Because they first bought property in Texas and are renting it out to make enough to live in the Bay. Hope that helps, OP.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
They're rich, op

Or they're almost rich and also in debt

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

my new goal in life is to accumulate a million dollars in debt

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


numberoneposter posted:

my new goal in life is to accumulate a million dollars in debt

You now owe me 1 million dollars. Mission accomplished.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

You now owe me 1 million dollars. Mission accomplished.
well you owe me a 1 million dollars in "services" and you aint getting paid till the job is done :grin:

Synthetic Dreams
Jul 19, 2005

by Cyrano4747
houses are nice

Synthetic Dreams fucked around with this message at 12:45 on May 9, 2020

XYZAB
Jun 29, 2003

HNNNNNGG!!

numberoneposter posted:

well you owe me a 1 million dollars in "services" and you aint getting paid till the job is done :grin:

That’s 20 million 5 cent handjobs :vince:

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Pick posted:

where most of those households are 2 people. If there are two people with a combined net worth of a million dollars, each is referred to as a millionaire. even though a single person needs their own million to be called a millionaire. so the number of millionaire persons will be higher than 11.76, making 15% quite a conservative estimate overall.

Most of the 88.24% of households with less than a million bucks also contain 2 or more people.

down n out
Sep 16, 2008

Nap Ghost
Gotta buy a lotto ticket, aka investing thousands of dollars on individual stocks.

JK Fresco
Jul 5, 2019

Rad-daddio posted:

All about that paper.

The Bay Area is an overpriced poo poo hole

Also a literal poo poo hole because it is covered with humsn feces

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

Zeinin posted:

I am taking a walk around my neighborhood (A suburb in the Bay Area, USA), and I am looking at all these dang houses. Pretty much anyone of these houses starts at $1m. You will walk by someone who has a house and like, a recent Porsche. And the math just isn't working out for me. This only makes sense if people are up to their eyeballs in debt, or make 500k+ a year. I know the payscales at big tech companies, and, sure, maybe with options, you clear 500k, but cash kind of peters out at 300k. And I don't think everyone in my zone works at Google.
It just feels like there are too many houses at too high of a price, and that there cannot be enough jobs that pay enough to afford all these frikken houses. Even jobs at the 250k level are hard to find outside of big tech, law, medicine.

There are these calculators that say you can afford a 1.5m house on 300k combined income. That is like a 7k monthly note. That sounds insane to me.

How the hell are there enough jobs paying 200k+ to pay for all these 1m+ houses?

My wife says the same thing and I always respond, "they didn't buy it, honey, they rented their whole lives from the bank".

Hope this helps you understand the endless lust for materials, op.

JK Fresco
Jul 5, 2019

pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

My wife says the same thing and I always respond, "they didn't buy it, honey, they rented their whole lives from the bank".

Hope this helps you understand the endless lust for materials, op.

But why is this bad?

It sounds like they have everything they esnt snd you don't

Aaravos
May 9, 2020

by Cyrano4747
Bitcoin

Macnult
Jul 7, 2013

Zeinin posted:

I am taking a walk around my neighborhood (A suburb in the Bay Area, USA)...

nice humblebrag, OP. my guess is by microdosing acid and learning a little bit of python

terminal chillness
Oct 16, 2008

This baby is off the charts
I wish I were a millionaire. Instead I'm a hundredaire.

Lord Decimus Barnacle
Jun 25, 2005


Hell Gem
In my wallet right now I have the equivalent of 9000 pennies. I’m a thousand air

SirPablo
May 1, 2004

Pillbug
10 nuggets $1

Outpost22
Oct 11, 2012

RIP Screamy You were too good for this world.
Off the backs of labor by chumps

guitartorch
Jan 4, 2020

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
It used to be possible to buy a detached home before millennials screwed the pooch. Boomers are the last gasp of the american left and the american middle class. You hate to see it because it makes SA posters big mad but yeah, once boomers are gone so is the american left and the american middle class. Thats how they could afford houses OP, by having regular jobs and demanding to be paid fairly for them, a thing which millennials don't do and never will.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib
nvm

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

guitartorch posted:

It used to be possible to buy a detached home before millennials screwed the pooch. Boomers are the last gasp of the american left and the american middle class. You hate to see it because it makes SA posters big mad but yeah, once boomers are gone so is the american left and the american middle class. Thats how they could afford houses OP, by having regular jobs and demanding to be paid fairly for them, a thing which millennials don't do and never will.

This is a really moronic take, how can you write this and not realize it's super stupid.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Those drat millennials not doing regular jobs or getting payed. What will they think of next? Fruit on toast!?! Weak babies the lot of them.

guitartorch
Jan 4, 2020

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
the truth aint an easy slice of pie . That I can tell you.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost
We rent our house out to a porn studio on the weekends, OP. It really helps out with the mortgage.

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Oct 29, 2012

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guitartorch posted:

the truth aint an easy slice of pie . That I can tell you.
Out here in the bay area, livin the Hard Pie Life

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The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
Here’s how I did it op. I joined a company and was granted a pile of stock options. They were worth nothing for a long time. But I worked there for several years and as the company grew so did my options, as did the additional shares I picked up in subsequent grants. When I bought a house, I could liquidate shares to pay the mortgage.

I hope this helps

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