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Hiram
Sep 21, 2010

Take care fella...spike your hair! :fella:



Well, hello there! It's me, your good pal, Hiram! I have a lot of free time on my hands so I've decided to use it to see how well we as a group could book a wrestling promotion. I've purchased Total Extreme Wrestling 2013 for this specific reason. TEW is a Wrestling Promotion simulator created by Adam Ryland of Grey Dog Software. In it, you can take the role of a wrestling promoter and book different matches and segments. You can even go so far as to pick your own announcing team and road agents. I know I am not doing this justice so you should definitely check out their website if you aren't already familiar. But the main point is this--you get to take control of a wrestling promotion where you can either be a smart and benevolent booker or see yourself turn into Jeff Jarrett. Sounds great, right?!
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Discord Link: https://discord.gg/e95HNx

If you are interested please let me know. I will try to keep sign ups open for at least through this next weekend.

Right now we have the following people who are interested:


    * Realfoxy
    * Junpei Hyde
    * Senerio
    * Xerzes
    * Karmicknight
    * Max Coveri
    * JoeRules
    * rare Magic card 100k
    * super macho dude
    * Pinche Rudo
    * Sanguinia
    * IcePhoenix
    * projecthalaxy
    * Maigius
    * I Before E
    * ShallNoiseUpon
    * Blooming Brilliant
    * here comes the spunk
    * Prokhor Zakharov


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The Plot The WWE, thanks to terrible business decisions and it's horrible treatment of talent, has officially gone out of business. Promotions around the world are now scrambling to pick up the talent that the WWE has now had to let go.

(Thanks to Sanguinia for a very very good write up!)

Sanguinia posted:

In June 2019, WWE was only a couple of months removed from the success of Wrestlemania 35. Kofimania Ran Wild, Seth Rollins became The Beastslayer, and Becky Twobelts was crowned the biggest star in wrestling when she won the first ever Women’s Main Event in the history of the Showcase of the Immortals by pinning Ronda Rousey.

However, in the wake of that event they struggled to capitalize on their momentum – Becky Lynch lost one of her Two Belts to Charlotte Flair after less than a month and was forced to try and carry a dire feud against Lacey Evans, a woman who could barely do a single move without botching. Seth Rollins feud against Baron Corbin proved to be a ratings disaster despite the reveal of Seth and Becky’s real-life relationship and WWE’s efforts to push them as Wrestling's ultimate Power Couple. And Kofi Kingston’s initially successful feud against Kevin Owen was derailed by an elephant in the room: the upcoming Super Showdown event in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Talent were bitterly divided on this event after the murder of US Journalist Jamal Khashoggi by Saudi agents earlier in the year. John Cena and Daniel Bryan refused to be involved. WWE management pitched a women's match, was shot down, and capitulated, a bad look so soon after their self-congratulations over the women main eventing Mania. Aliester Black was denied the chance to participate because of the religious symbolism of his tattoos. Sami Zayn refused to be involved because during a prior show he was banned by the Saudi government due to his Syrian heritage. Most crucially, Kevin Owens refused to be involved in solidarity with Sami, which necessitated a rapid rewrite of the WWE title feud. The entire card was put into dramatic flux when it was hardly stable beforehand, and on top of all this the main event match of Goldberg vs The Undertaker was a disaster. Both men's lives seemed to be at serious risk during the match due to their ages and physical conditioning. This event would later be voted Worst Wrestling Event of 2019, and its bad buzz would reverberate into the milquetoast Stomping Grounds PPV a few weeks later, leaving this to be one of WWE's worst months of content in many years.

It was a moment where if some unforeseen disaster were to strike the company, its demise would be swift. And if such a disaster were to strike, if the WWE were to die tomorrow, who might take up the crown?

___

WWE’s developmental brand NXT Ciampa's need for neck surgery, the substitute feud of NXT Champion Johnny Gargano vs Adam Cole is running red hot on the sheer level of in-ring talent. Their first match was rated 5.5 out of 5 Stars by Dave Meltzer, and this month they'll meet again at “NXT Takeover XXV.”

But below the Main Event level, the brand is struggling. North American Champion Velveteen Dream feels directionless despite his fan-favorite status and a feud with returning fan-favorite Tyler Breeze. The Tag Division is in turmoil because of the sudden main roster callup of Tag Champs the War Raiders. Shayna Bazler's complete, smothering domination of the women's division is challenged by Arguably Best Wrestler Of Any Gender On The Planet Io Shirai, but WWE has planned for her to win that match and continue a run that fans are growing to resent.

There are red flags everywhere, but the talent is so good and they've earned so much fan goodwill most people haven't noticed... yet. If something WERE to happen to WWE, NXT would have tremendous value as a stand-alone product to a smart investor, especially if the USA Network was desperate for something to fill the hole of Monday Night Raw…

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US wrestling history is truly being made outside of WWE for the first time since the Monday Night Wars: All Elite Wrestling is just over one week removed from their first ever Pay-Per-View event, “Double or Nothing,” in Las Vegas Nevada. It was not only a success, but one which destroyed even the most optimistic industry expectations. Ticket demand outstripped all but a handful of live events of ANY kind in RECORDED BOX OFFICE HISTORY. It garnered the highest PPV buyrate in wrestling history outside of WWE and WCW. It received universal critical praise from top to bottom, being compared to legendary events like WCW/AAA Worlds Collide or ECW Heatwave '98. Cody Rhodes and Tony Khan have fired the first shot of a new Wrestling War.

Now the hype is building for the launch of their weekly TV series, AEW Dynamite on TNT, in October. With the crowning of GOAT candidate Chris Jericho as their inaugural champion, the surprise reveal of World's Hottest Free Agent Jon Moxley during the event's finale, and the presence of some of the best talent the current generation has to offer from Kenny Omega to the Lucha Brothers in their locker room, the only question now is if they can keep their company hot for five long months until their TV debut. Especially if something unexpected were to happen which might leave them as the heir apparent to the industry…
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AEW may be soaring, but not everyone can take joy in it, most especially the beleaguered Ring of Honor. Their refusal to be officially involved in Cody Rhode's original "All In," event followed by its subsequent success and the exodus of many top talents to the nascent AEW has made their management look like ignorant fools. This black eye to the company's reputation would only be compounded two months ago, at what should have been their greatest triumph, and the dawn of a new age for ROH: “G1 Supercard,” at Madison Square Garden. It was the first wrestling show since the founding of the WWWF to be held there without a McMahon in charge, and it would prove to be an embarrassment.

Every ROH angle and match was derided by the live audience and critically panned by the larger industry, squandering the biggest stage the company has ever held. They only looked worse because of the presence of brilliant performances and storylines from the top talent of New Japan. The crowning of new champion Matt Taven was met with indifference, and that indifference has led to cratering buyrates, ticket sales, ratings on Sinclair networks and streaming service subscription numbers. Their recently launched Women of Honor division has been plagued with scandal and negative reception. Internal discontent over creative struggles and lack of concern for talent health are only a few months away from boiling over. Even the presence of The Villain Marty Scurll, one of the biggest stars in Indy Wrestling, is hardly a positive because all anyone wants to talk about is when his contract runs out so he can go to AEW.

This month's "Best In The World," PPV, headlined by Taven vs Jeff Cobb, is not expected to excite. ROH must turn themselves back from the brink before it’s too late, and a major sea change to the entire wrestling industry may give them the ultimate opportunity…

___

While life bleeds out of ROH, the cockroach known as Impact Wrestling stubbornly clings to it. Downgraded from PopTV (:stare:) to Pursuit, a premium cable channel geared toward hunting and fishing, Impact began simulcasting its show on Twitch in December. Despite this new low, incredibly, the former TNA seems to be on an upward swing. For the first time since being booted from Spike TV they've found some tiny scrap of stability, and have been receiving critical praise for their in-ring quality for at least a full calendar year of shows.

Ever the refuge for the discarded, untouchable or unappreciated from other promotions, Impact Wrestling is currently headlined by Brian "A MACHINE," Cage, who's lengthy title run has been very well received by the people actually watching. A bevy of other talents can be found on their roster, to the point it's almost shocking some would agree to be there. The new LAX, Santanna and Ortiz, have been catching a lot of eyes with their tag division feuds. Taya Valkyrie is working hard to restore the once-proud Knockout’s division, and rumors about that the company has big plans for Tessa Blanchard beyond the women’s division. Even new talent, such as the impressive Killer Kross, is being cultivated!

There is actually some small amount of buzz for July's Slammiversary 2019 Pay Per View event, currently scheduled to be headlined by a title defense between Cage and Unlikable... sorry, that's UNBREAKABLE Mike Elgin. The company even had the audacity to launch their own Impact Plus streaming service last month, and rumors swirl that their ownership has some kind of plan to get Impact back onto a halfway decent network. Will they gently caress this positive momentum up, especially if that positive momentum is happening at an unexpectedly opportune moment for expansion? I mean, probably, its Impact...
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And while the deathless shambles onward, life finds a way on the Indy Circuit. Oh-so-quietly, Billy Corgan's National Wrestling Alliance, capitalizing on the success of Nick Aldis' "Aldis Crusade," title defenses, their "Ten Pounds of Gold," webseries, and most importantly the attention they received through their association with the "All In," event, is preparing for next month. In July they deliver the biggest news they've been a part of since Shane Douglas launched ECW off their backs: their reorganization as a formal Wrestling Promotion through the youtube series NWA Powerr.
If there were to suddenly be a vacuum in the world of wrestling that needed filling, the NWA, with the history and prestige of their championship and active investment in a television product, might be the perfect thing to fill it…
____

The United States is certainly a battleground waiting to happen in the wrestling world, but we all know there is more to wrestling.
In Mexico, AAA has definitely had its share of ups and downs in recent years. From the eventual failure and subsequent legal troubles stemming from Lucha Underground, to putting on some of the worst matches in the company’s history, to losing their partnership with Televisa in early February, some fans were left wondering if the promotion had much of a future. But they weren't left wondering for long--as only a few days later the news of a new partnership with TV Azteca was released. In the midst of this behind-the-curtain drama, the company had a huge spotlight shone on it’s center stage by AEW’s Young Bucks, as they began feuding cross-promotionally with Fenix and Pentagon Dark, two of the company’s biggest stars, with AAA’s tag titles as the prize.

The Lucha Brothers are scheduled to win the belts back this month as the co-main event of “Verano de Escandalo 2019,” to end the feud. Assuming this is a success, AAA already has plans to capitalize on the international attention. Last April, the company announced their first ever event on US Soil, “Invading NY,” at Madison Square Garden, scheduled for September. This could be the beginning of a real push into the States for AAA, and its success or failure may depend entirely on this year’s Triplemania, only two months away. They intended to pull out all the stops: the biggest visiting talent they can book, a prominent spot for rising superstar Psycho Clown, the potential retirement match for living legend Dr. Wagner, and to top it all off, their pocket ace – the pro wrestling debut of UFC legend and Brock-Lesnar-Defeater Cain Velasquez. Imagine what its success could mean for Lucha Libre… and imagine what they could do if WWE weren’t in their way…
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As the wrestlers of North America, north and south of Rio Grande, jockey for position, on the other side of the world a lion has been struggling to awaken. For years, New Japan Pro Wrestling has reached ever higher levels of dominance in the Asian wrestling world, and fans the world over have reveled in its glory. The passing of the torch to Kazuchika Okada, the phoenix-like rise of Tetsuya Naito, the Bullet Club’s continued success as a stable, the rockstar status of the New Japan World streaming service, the growing swell of support in Southeast Asia, Britain and Australia they’ve achieved through partnerships and overseas touring, it seems like everything the company touches turns to gold.

But the crown rests upon a troubled brow. Not everything has gone to plan. For years now, NJPW has smelled blood in the water in America, and has searched for a way to exploit WWE’s perceived weakness, but at every turn they have been foiled. Sales for their handful of US events have been mediocre. Ring of Honor has proven less and less reliable as an ally as the years go on. The men they were counting on to spearhead your campaign in the west, Kenny Omega and the Elite, have left them behind to create AEW. The foreign mega-stars who’ve helped drive what success in the west they’ve seen such as Chris Jericho now have their loyalties divided because of AEW. WWE has continued to use its financial power to try and filch any stars which may be marketable in the west, just as they did with AJ Styles and Shinsuke Nakamura. And now rumors are circulating that their US TV presence, on the AXS Network, may be under threat.

But setbacks are just opportunities waiting to be born. The Prodigal Son, Golden Star Kota Ibushi, has finally signed with the company. Jon Moxley, arguably AEW’s biggest weapon, is scheduled to compete in this year's G1 Tournament and has expressed interest in carrying the US title despite the tensions between the two companies. Former NOAH ace KENTA, who has some international fame thanks to his tenure in WWE despite their booking failures, is ready to debut on the roster. And this month’s “Dominion,” starts the long road to your greatest experiment, a two-day-long Wrestlekingdom. The Lion may yet awaken, and if it does, it may find a hunting ground whose biggest predator has suddenly gone extinct…
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But all of these are merely half the story. Specifically, the male half. None can deny that 2019 is the year of Women’s Wrestling. Cynically, pathetically, WWE pushed a corporate-branded WOMEN’S REVOLUTION for years that drove fans mad with its transparent disingenuous double-talk and efforts to co-opt a progressive image to hide borderline-criminal acts. But despite everything, WWE somehow succeeded in their own warped way in making Women’s Wrestling more legitimate and mainstream than it has ever been, even during its golden age in 1990’s Japan. As mentioned previously, that success culminated in two Women’s Championships main-eventing Wrestlemania two months ago, with Becky Lynch, Charlotte Flair and Ronda Rousey, the most successful stars women’s wrestling has ever produced, making true history. But there has always been a lingering question in this revolution: can the misogynist, toxic, regressive hellhole that is WWE truly help women’s wrestling to reach its full potential?

While pundits and fans wrestle with that question, independent all-women’s wrestling federations have tried to use WWE’s efforts to their advantage around the globe. One of the most successful has been Japan’s World of Stardom. Despite the filching of some of their best talent by WWE in the wake of the success of Stardom alum Kana (aka Asuka), the company has successfully launched a dedicate online streaming service, and expanded their operations internationally through loaning talent to projects like Lucha Underground, ROH and Impact, which have been desperate for top-level female wrestlers to help them create homegrown stars for the sake of following WWE’s lead. During Wrestlemania Weekend two months ago they successfully put on a US show for the first time.

Creatively Stardom is grappling with some dissatisfaction in their fanbase over the World of Stardom Championship reign of Bea Priestly and internal debate over whether she or Wonder of Stardom Champion Arisa Hoshika is the company’s headliner. But their business savvy and aggressive effort to expand is catching the attention of Bushiroad, the parent company of New Japan. Rumors abound that they might want to get into the Women’s Wrestling business, and Stardom might be their ticket… unless something drastic were to happen that might give another investor even loftier ambitions…
___

The world of professional wrestling is bursting with potential. Companies that could take the world by storm, companies desperate to survive on the brink, companies that could revolutionize the industry, all hungry for a chance. Sadly, we may never know what these groups are truly capable of, for the juggernaut that is WWE sits rotting upon its golden throne, its bulk suffocating any that would dare to threaten it. But that doesn’t stop wrestling fans everywhere from asking the question: What if there was no WWE?

What would happen then?



Promotion Sign Ups:

NXT
    * projecthalaxy
    * Junpei Hyde


AEW
    * Karmicknight
    * Xerzes


ROH
    * I Before E
    * ShallNoiseUpon


IMPACT
    * Rarity

NWA
    * Blooming Brilliant
    * IcePhoenix


NJPW

    * super macho dude
    * here comes the spunk


World of Stardom

    * Sanguinia
    * Senerio



Note: There will be a limit of 4 people to a group.

Hiram fucked around with this message at 06:29 on May 24, 2020

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RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.
How many promotions could you reliably keep track of at one time? I like the idea of a bunch of smaller promotions with unique styles and rosters with roughly the same amount of money. Maybe disband the WWE and put out NXT, GCW, AEW, ROH, TNA, and CZW based roughly off their best peak periods with modern rosters. Since NXT, GCW, and AEW are still fairly prominent and modernized, I'd say NXT is the international "Super Brand" with bigger names and the most distinct styles, AEW is still based off The Elite & Friends, and GCW is more outside the box, with more gimmick shows like the WM week type stuff. ROH could go back to their original more-serious roots with guys like Cesaro & Daniel Bryan, CZW is primarily high flyers and brawlers, and TNA, is whatever the gently caress TNA has ever been. For uniqueness, maybe lean TNA towards their Cinematic/Lucha Underground-type stuff.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

custom wrestlers. about 1,200 of them to make sure there are enough to go around the world. you need to make each wrestler and spend some time on them to flesh them out and make them shine. my friends below will help you in this effort by coming up with characters and their backstories, so it won't be too hard.

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




Is it time for another team game

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
i think it would be interesting to have a world populated entirely by clones of one particular wrestler. by placing them in different environments, with different selective pressures, they would all evolve from a base form into various exotic new species.

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

My ideal would be a 'crossroads of time' with wrestlers from the last 30 years all active at the same time. Put WCW, WWE, ECW, TNA, Lucha Underground, and AEW in a world together at the same relative size and watch them duke it out. Actually make like 3 WWEs; 90's WWE, 2000's WWE and 2010's WWE.

There might be a mod that already does this come and think of it.

Alternately: make a world with a bunch of wrestlers and a bunch of companies with no wrestlers and watch them jockey for position.

ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 04:47 on May 10, 2020

Hiram
Sep 21, 2010

Take care fella...spike your hair! :fella:

Junpei Hyde posted:

Is it time for another team game

Honestly, I really like the idea of this.It's actually multiplayer so we could divide up into teams and pick a promotion to run. The different teams let me know what they want to do and I'll plug it into the game and let er' rip. Thank you for the idea! I legitimately never would have thought to do teams.


ChrisBTY posted:

My ideal would be a 'crossroads of time' with wrestlers from the last 30 years all active at the same time. Put WCW, WWE, ECW, TNA, Lucha Underground, and AEW in a world together at the same relative size and watch them duke it out. Actually make like 3 WWEs; 90's WWE, 2000's WWE and 2010's WWE.

I mean, we absolutely could go balls to the wall and allow wrestlers from all periods. I wouldn't have anything against this--I suppose it really comes down to everyone else's opinion of it.

RealFoxy posted:

How many promotions could you reliably keep track of at one time? I like the idea of a bunch of smaller promotions with unique styles and rosters with roughly the same amount of money. Maybe disband the WWE and put out NXT, GCW, AEW, ROH, TNA, and CZW based roughly off their best peak periods with modern rosters.

So if we go the team route like Junpei is suggesting I think the obvious choice would be to go these routes as far as promotions. Really good idea!

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
I'm all in on team TJPW (and by that I mean make one team DDT/TJPW and I'll take care of the TJPW side)

Senerio fucked around with this message at 20:34 on May 10, 2020

Xerzes
May 16, 2012


Hiram posted:

Honestly, I really like the idea of this.It's actually multiplayer so we could divide up into teams and pick a promotion to run. The different teams let me know what they want to do and I'll plug it into the game and let er' rip. Thank you for the idea! I legitimately never would have thought to do teams.


I mean, we absolutely could go balls to the wall and allow wrestlers from all periods. I wouldn't have anything against this--I suppose it really comes down to everyone else's opinion of it.


So if we go the team route like Junpei is suggesting I think the obvious choice would be to go these routes as far as promotions. Really good idea!

We did the team thing a while back. Monday Night Wars setting, was a whole big thread. It was a lot of fun, but seemed like a lot of work for the one running it, since we went through several different people. Still, if we're giving it another try, I'm up for whatever.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Junpei Hyde posted:

Is it time for another team game

*slams fists on table* Team Game! Team Game! Team Game!

Xerzes posted:

We did the team thing a while back. Monday Night Wars setting, was a whole big thread. It was a lot of fun, but seemed like a lot of work for the one running it, since we went through several different people. Still, if we're giving it another try, I'm up for whatever.

We're we literally just talking about this on Friday? If Hiram thinks they are strong enough of will, I would love to participate.

Xerzes
May 16, 2012


karmicknight posted:

*slams fists on table* Team Game! Team Game! Team Game!


We're we literally just talking about this on Friday? If Hiram thinks they are strong enough of will, I would love to participate.

We were, in fact. That was fun.

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.
There was another similar thing even longer ago where people booked their own promotions and ran drafts from the active competitors, Thaurus and I ran a WCW ran by Chris Jericho that had a lot of eerie similarities to AEW years later.

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




I am still mad we never got to the reveal of Batista as THE OBSERVER, BIG DAVE

Max Coveri
Dec 23, 2015

by Athanatos
We should book a Mexican promotion imho

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001

Xerzes posted:

We did the team thing a while back. Monday Night Wars setting, was a whole big thread. It was a lot of fun, but seemed like a lot of work for the one running it, since we went through several different people. Still, if we're giving it another try, I'm up for whatever.

It was a blast to run, but yeah, a lot of work. I cracked the whip pretty hard to make sure that the teams handed over booked shows without hiccups so that I could just run them and input results, but it still was a lot.

My favorite part that comes to mind is giving the teams a challenge, with the prize being a mystery worker. The prize was Mark Henry edited to be an honest-to-God blue chip prospect so I was dying when both teams reacted with ":rolleyes: the loving prize is Mark Henry?!?!"

edit: not to take credit though - someone else started it and handed it off to me at one point

Eat My Fuc
May 29, 2007

ChrisBTY posted:

My ideal would be a 'crossroads of time' with wrestlers from the last 30 years all active at the same time. Put WCW, WWE, ECW, TNA, Lucha Underground, and AEW in a world together at the same relative size and watch them duke it out. Actually make like 3 WWEs; 90's WWE, 2000's WWE and 2010's WWE.

There might be a mod that already does this come and think of it.

Alternately: make a world with a bunch of wrestlers and a bunch of companies with no wrestlers and watch them jockey for position.

I love these ideas

Amp
Sep 10, 2010

:11tea::bubblewoop::agesilaus::megaman::yoshi::squawk::supaburn::iit::spooky::axe::honked::shroom::smugdog::sg::pkmnwhy::parrot::screamy::tubular::corsair::sanix::yeeclaw::hayter::flip::redflag:
This sounds neat. I'm not sure what I want or what I think will be good so I'll probably just read along for a while and pipe in infrequently.

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


We should make the ultimate warrior our champ until he is taken down by his student, mason ryan, who is then taken down by his student 'The Rarity'

super macho dude
Aug 9, 2014


The 1993 UFC roster guys thrown in against Kaiju Big Battle wrestlers

Pinche Rudo
Feb 8, 2005

Dissolve the WWE and bring back UWFi

Amp
Sep 10, 2010

:11tea::bubblewoop::agesilaus::megaman::yoshi::squawk::supaburn::iit::spooky::axe::honked::shroom::smugdog::sg::pkmnwhy::parrot::screamy::tubular::corsair::sanix::yeeclaw::hayter::flip::redflag:
WMAC Masters roster

:thunk:

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

There is actually a mod called "War of the Worlds" that has a similar 'all time periods converge' theme. I've never used it personally so I can't speak for the specifics. Also I'm not sure if it started on TEW 2013 or 16. It beats having to faff about with a database from scratch (an activity which probably has about a 99.7% burnout rate, even if you're just importing the workers from other dbs)

And as much as I love the worker signing scramble I bet it would make the early days take like 6 hours each for the AI to resolve. I may try it when 2020 comes out with the new modern day mod if I'm feeling up to it.

And if you're thinking "wait, weren't those your ideas to begin with"? Yes, yes they are.

Another idea; for the life of me I can't remember if this was my idea or if this was somebody else's idea. Combat sports are illegal. The largest wrestling companies are small, half the workers are MMA crossovers, 80% of them 'have had trouble with the law in the past', even the wrestlers who are otherwise positive influences, and most of them absolutely suck. But that would involve making a db from scratch.

ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 07:30 on May 11, 2020

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

ChrisBTY posted:

And if you're thinking "wait, weren't those your ideas to begin with"? Yes, yes they are.

Alright, really glad you were willing to bring up the fact that your ideas were super labor intensive, I didn't want to harsh the good vibes of this potentially cool thread. But yeah, your ideas are super labor intensive.

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

That having been said, if you like the alternate/convergent timeline stuff the mod I was talking about is actually called 'War of the Immortals 3'. I don't know that much about it so I can't vouch for its quality, but it's there.
http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=524322

And as far as the worker scramble goes; how labor intensive it is directly correlates to how easy it is to set all workers to 'unemployed' in the DB. Somebody mentioned you can play with it directly in the file code but I really don't know anything about that. The big problem is whether or not the game can handle the strain of handling that many decisions per day in the early going without barfing up a lung (and how patient you are). If you go with this you should probably use a smaller db/limit the game world to US only.

ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 07:51 on May 11, 2020

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.
Multi Generation EWR's are a mixed bag, because what if you had people like Eddie, or Hayabusa, or Daniel Bryan were at their peaks with modern rosters but you've got to balance that out with Roman Reigns and Hulk Hogan and Zandig are on the same roster.

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

RealFoxy posted:

Multi Generation EWR's are a mixed bag, because what if you had people like Eddie, or Hayabusa, or William Regal were at their peaks with modern rosters but you've got to balance that out with Roman Reigns and Hulk Hogan and Zandig are on the same roster.

That's why I suggested having the companies themselves be split into multiple versions, otherwise the rosters would get beyond bloated.
Also I had another idea. This would again be labor intensive but when I mentioned it before a year or three back people got a kick out of it. I would have done it myself but I know there is absolutely no goddamn way I would have finished it.

A what if scenario? What if Vince goes down in the steroid trials, Jerry Jarrett runs WWE into the ground and WCW, despite winning the Monday Night Wars, collapses under the weight of it's own mismanagement?

The year is 2001, there is no national face of American professional wrestling.

~ WWF Despite a 6 year stint in Club Fed and his company collapsing, Vince retains the intellectual property rights of WWF and with the assistance of a substantial loan from a 'mysterious' investor, he attempts to resurrect his fallen empire. Despite the name brand being tarnished and having little else to work with he is able to re-acquire the services of several workers who either remained loyal to the company or simply see him as the best employment option.
Key Stars: The Undertaker, Shawn Micheals, HHH, Ric Flair

~ WCW After running WWF out of business and taking their most vital talent, WCW got too bloated for its own good and collapsed under the weight of it's own mismanagement, creative bankruptcy and catastrophic backstage politics. Eric Bischoff is able to buy what's left of the company from AOL/Time Warner with the assistance of Fusient Media and attempts to rebuild the company with the only thing he knows; Hulk Hogan and workers loyal to the brand
Key Stars: Hulk Hogan, The Giant, DDP, Sting, Lex Luger

~ TNA Despite his disastrous attempt to keep WWF afloat during what would have been the attitude era, Jerry Jarrett (with sufficient support of his son Jeff believe that they have what it takes to fill the of the American wrestling industry. Thus TNA is born of a combination of wrestlers that Jerry did right by in WWF, most notably a young Dwayne Johnson, a highlight of WWF's death throes and wrestlers disgruntled with their place in WCW's hierarchy.
Key Stars: Jeff Jarrett, Dwayne Johnson, Scott Steiner, Booker T

~ ECW Without WCW and WWF snatching their talent left, right and center ECW was able to retain its core and it's identity (and a few potential megastars) and remained as the last company standing in the wake of the Monday Night Wars. In fact, were it not for the product they push being advertiser unfriendly they may have emerged as the dominant power in the North American wrestling landscape. Now they face a choice; continue being the niche promotion they are or change their identity to make a push to the big leagues.
Key Stars: Steve Austin, Cactus Jack, RVD, Raven

~ Stampede Both Bret and Owen Hart got massive contracts by WCW in their final push to drive WWF under. Both Bret and Owen were lost in the political shuffle of WCW and left the company disgusted with not only WCW, but the US's culture and perception of what wrestling is. With their massive paydays they set out to rebuild their father's wrestling dynasty in Canada with the help of the bumper crop of Canadian wrestlers.
Key Stars: Bret Hart, Owen Hart, Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit

~ Lucha Underground Feeling underappreciated and under-utilized by WCW Eddy Guerrero and Rey Mysterio Jr were planning on heading back to Mexico when young Director/Product Robert Rodriguez approached them with an interesting offer; create a new company with the intent of popularizing lucha libre in the United States. The idea intrigued them but they knew that despite their mission statement they would need somebody more relatable (read: white american) to play to the US audience. So they decide to take a chance on an Olympic Gold Medalist looking to break into the industry.
Key Stars: Rey Mysterio Jr, Eddy Guerrero, Konnan, Kurt Angle

The new War for North American wrestling begins.

Four Notes:
1) each company starts at the Cult Level
2) Due to wrestling cooling off no wrestler has above a C in popularity
3) Assume the best case scenario for each wrestler. Bret never got concussed multiple times and retired, Scott Hall's career isn't completely crippled by alcoholism, Owen Hart is still alive etc.
4) Nash, Hall and Goldberg are all free agents.

(yes I know these notes are unnecessary since there's no way anybody is actually going to do this but I just put them there for the sake of completion)

ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 08:33 on May 11, 2020

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

I'm 100% down for a new TEW thread :)

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
I just want to book a women's promotion, and I don't mind doing most of the work for it. Preferably TJPW because it's a small roster I know. I was never able to in the previous game because of the state of women's wrestling in the attitude era.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

The hardest part about team games isn't actually the work done by the person with the game it's waiting forever for the teams to write their shows.

Also I would happily join one of the teams if a team game starts :v: I still like to reminisce about our run as ECW built around Kurt Angle and Edge in the Monday Night Wars game

IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 17:24 on May 13, 2020

Hiram
Sep 21, 2010

Take care fella...spike your hair! :fella:

Just want to give everyone a quick update. We're definitely going with the team game idea. We just need to figure out how many people are going to be a part of it so we can divide them up into teams as evenly as possible. I will update the OP at some point today with the names of the people already interested.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


If elected to a team, I promise to arbitrarily pick one (1) undercard loser and demand the whole show be used to build them up at the expense of everything.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

projecthalaxy posted:

If elected to a team, I promise to arbitrarily pick one (1) undercard loser and demand the whole show be used to build them up at the expense of everything.

Same but actually it's just going to be Chuck Taylor even if the database doesn't have Chuck Taylor yet.

Hiram
Sep 21, 2010

Take care fella...spike your hair! :fella:

projecthalaxy posted:

If elected to a team, I promise to arbitrarily pick one (1) undercard loser and demand the whole show be used to build them up at the expense of everything.

Honestly that's all anyone could ever ask of you.

karmicknight posted:

Same but actually it's just going to be Chuck Taylor even if the database doesn't have Chuck Taylor yet.

Chuckie T will indeed be in the database. I've picked out a pretty good mod that has an updated roster of over 5000 wrestlers and personalities. I'm gonna tweak it a little bit as well so there will be tons of stuff for everybody.



The OP has been updated! Spread the word, please! I'm super excited about how well received this has been so far. I'm looking forward to doing this for you guys!

Hiram fucked around with this message at 22:58 on May 13, 2020

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

i'd like to clarify for the sake of the OP. i was strictly interested in custom wrestlers. about 1,200 of them to make sure there are enough to go around the world. you need to make each wrestler and spend some time on them to flesh them out and make them shine. my friends below will help you in this effort by coming up with characters and their backstories, so it won't be too hard. if that's not happening and it's something to do with teams then I politely decline to be involved. however I will look at the thread.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

I'm definitely interested, especially if I can try to revive ROH

Maigius
Jun 29, 2013


I may demonstrably be a terrible writer, but when has that been an issue with wrestling? Count me in.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


I don't want to be a head booker, but i will be a specialist. Like how TNA gave all their cinematic stuff to Borash or how Kenny is the boss of the AEW women's division. Specifically, my specialty will be awkward sponcon segments. If Byron Saxton needs to pretend to enjoy a delicious Crunchwrap AM, I'm the guy you call in.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

I will do the same thing I did in the last two games where I herd the rest of the cats in the writers room into not offering a billion contracts to all their favorites and then end up with a mess of a show because we have too many people

Pinche Rudo
Feb 8, 2005

IcePhoenix posted:

I will do the same thing I did in the last two games where I herd the rest of the cats in the writers room into not offering a billion contracts to all their favorites and then end up with a mess of a show because we have too many people

Team TNA signed all of our favorites but then cut half the roster to make room so it balanced out. We made our first Impact have every match be a loser leaves town match.

It's too bad we never got to run Bound for Glory for the blow off of IMMORTAL EXPLODES!

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Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

I'm excited to hear what the OP's concept is for the game! I had a ton of fun in the MNW thread back in the day and was sad when the Summer Of Punk thread died before its time.

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