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Well, hello there! It's me, your good pal, Hiram! I have a lot of free time on my hands so I've decided to use it to see how well we as a group could book a wrestling promotion. I've purchased Total Extreme Wrestling 2013 for this specific reason. TEW is a Wrestling Promotion simulator created by Adam Ryland of Grey Dog Software. In it, you can take the role of a wrestling promoter and book different matches and segments. You can even go so far as to pick your own announcing team and road agents. I know I am not doing this justice so you should definitely check out their website if you aren't already familiar. But the main point is this--you get to take control of a wrestling promotion where you can either be a smart and benevolent booker or see yourself turn into Jeff Jarrett. Sounds great, right?! ---------- Discord Link: https://discord.gg/e95HNx If you are interested please let me know. I will try to keep sign ups open for at least through this next weekend. Right now we have the following people who are interested: * Realfoxy * Junpei Hyde * Senerio * Xerzes * Karmicknight * Max Coveri * JoeRules * rare Magic card 100k * super macho dude * Pinche Rudo * Sanguinia * IcePhoenix * projecthalaxy * Maigius * I Before E * ShallNoiseUpon * Blooming Brilliant * here comes the spunk * Prokhor Zakharov ______ The Plot The WWE, thanks to terrible business decisions and it's horrible treatment of talent, has officially gone out of business. Promotions around the world are now scrambling to pick up the talent that the WWE has now had to let go. (Thanks to Sanguinia for a very very good write up!) Sanguinia posted:In June 2019, WWE was only a couple of months removed from the success of Wrestlemania 35. Kofimania Ran Wild, Seth Rollins became The Beastslayer, and Becky Twobelts was crowned the biggest star in wrestling when she won the first ever Women’s Main Event in the history of the Showcase of the Immortals by pinning Ronda Rousey. Promotion Sign Ups: NXT
* Junpei Hyde AEW
* Xerzes ROH
* ShallNoiseUpon IMPACT
NWA
* IcePhoenix NJPW
* here comes the spunk World of Stardom
* Senerio Note: There will be a limit of 4 people to a group. Hiram fucked around with this message at 06:29 on May 24, 2020 |
# ? May 10, 2020 02:16 |
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 19:33 |
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How many promotions could you reliably keep track of at one time? I like the idea of a bunch of smaller promotions with unique styles and rosters with roughly the same amount of money. Maybe disband the WWE and put out NXT, GCW, AEW, ROH, TNA, and CZW based roughly off their best peak periods with modern rosters. Since NXT, GCW, and AEW are still fairly prominent and modernized, I'd say NXT is the international "Super Brand" with bigger names and the most distinct styles, AEW is still based off The Elite & Friends, and GCW is more outside the box, with more gimmick shows like the WM week type stuff. ROH could go back to their original more-serious roots with guys like Cesaro & Daniel Bryan, CZW is primarily high flyers and brawlers, and TNA, is whatever the gently caress TNA has ever been. For uniqueness, maybe lean TNA towards their Cinematic/Lucha Underground-type stuff.
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# ? May 10, 2020 02:33 |
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custom wrestlers. about 1,200 of them to make sure there are enough to go around the world. you need to make each wrestler and spend some time on them to flesh them out and make them shine. my friends below will help you in this effort by coming up with characters and their backstories, so it won't be too hard.
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# ? May 10, 2020 02:37 |
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Is it time for another team game
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# ? May 10, 2020 03:00 |
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i think it would be interesting to have a world populated entirely by clones of one particular wrestler. by placing them in different environments, with different selective pressures, they would all evolve from a base form into various exotic new species.
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# ? May 10, 2020 03:01 |
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My ideal would be a 'crossroads of time' with wrestlers from the last 30 years all active at the same time. Put WCW, WWE, ECW, TNA, Lucha Underground, and AEW in a world together at the same relative size and watch them duke it out. Actually make like 3 WWEs; 90's WWE, 2000's WWE and 2010's WWE. There might be a mod that already does this come and think of it. Alternately: make a world with a bunch of wrestlers and a bunch of companies with no wrestlers and watch them jockey for position. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 04:47 on May 10, 2020 |
# ? May 10, 2020 04:35 |
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Junpei Hyde posted:Is it time for another team game Honestly, I really like the idea of this.It's actually multiplayer so we could divide up into teams and pick a promotion to run. The different teams let me know what they want to do and I'll plug it into the game and let er' rip. Thank you for the idea! I legitimately never would have thought to do teams. ChrisBTY posted:My ideal would be a 'crossroads of time' with wrestlers from the last 30 years all active at the same time. Put WCW, WWE, ECW, TNA, Lucha Underground, and AEW in a world together at the same relative size and watch them duke it out. Actually make like 3 WWEs; 90's WWE, 2000's WWE and 2010's WWE. I mean, we absolutely could go balls to the wall and allow wrestlers from all periods. I wouldn't have anything against this--I suppose it really comes down to everyone else's opinion of it. RealFoxy posted:How many promotions could you reliably keep track of at one time? I like the idea of a bunch of smaller promotions with unique styles and rosters with roughly the same amount of money. Maybe disband the WWE and put out NXT, GCW, AEW, ROH, TNA, and CZW based roughly off their best peak periods with modern rosters. So if we go the team route like Junpei is suggesting I think the obvious choice would be to go these routes as far as promotions. Really good idea!
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# ? May 10, 2020 20:21 |
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I'm all in on team TJPW (and by that I mean make one team DDT/TJPW and I'll take care of the TJPW side)
Senerio fucked around with this message at 20:34 on May 10, 2020 |
# ? May 10, 2020 20:24 |
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Hiram posted:Honestly, I really like the idea of this.It's actually multiplayer so we could divide up into teams and pick a promotion to run. The different teams let me know what they want to do and I'll plug it into the game and let er' rip. Thank you for the idea! I legitimately never would have thought to do teams. We did the team thing a while back. Monday Night Wars setting, was a whole big thread. It was a lot of fun, but seemed like a lot of work for the one running it, since we went through several different people. Still, if we're giving it another try, I'm up for whatever.
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# ? May 10, 2020 22:30 |
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Junpei Hyde posted:Is it time for another team game *slams fists on table* Team Game! Team Game! Team Game! Xerzes posted:We did the team thing a while back. Monday Night Wars setting, was a whole big thread. It was a lot of fun, but seemed like a lot of work for the one running it, since we went through several different people. Still, if we're giving it another try, I'm up for whatever. We're we literally just talking about this on Friday? If Hiram thinks they are strong enough of will, I would love to participate.
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# ? May 10, 2020 22:34 |
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karmicknight posted:*slams fists on table* Team Game! Team Game! Team Game! We were, in fact. That was fun.
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# ? May 10, 2020 22:41 |
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There was another similar thing even longer ago where people booked their own promotions and ran drafts from the active competitors, Thaurus and I ran a WCW ran by Chris Jericho that had a lot of eerie similarities to AEW years later.
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# ? May 10, 2020 23:56 |
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I am still mad we never got to the reveal of Batista as THE OBSERVER, BIG DAVE
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# ? May 11, 2020 00:06 |
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We should book a Mexican promotion imho
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# ? May 11, 2020 00:39 |
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Xerzes posted:We did the team thing a while back. Monday Night Wars setting, was a whole big thread. It was a lot of fun, but seemed like a lot of work for the one running it, since we went through several different people. Still, if we're giving it another try, I'm up for whatever. It was a blast to run, but yeah, a lot of work. I cracked the whip pretty hard to make sure that the teams handed over booked shows without hiccups so that I could just run them and input results, but it still was a lot. My favorite part that comes to mind is giving the teams a challenge, with the prize being a mystery worker. The prize was Mark Henry edited to be an honest-to-God blue chip prospect so I was dying when both teams reacted with " the loving prize is Mark Henry?!?!" edit: not to take credit though - someone else started it and handed it off to me at one point
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# ? May 11, 2020 01:19 |
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ChrisBTY posted:My ideal would be a 'crossroads of time' with wrestlers from the last 30 years all active at the same time. Put WCW, WWE, ECW, TNA, Lucha Underground, and AEW in a world together at the same relative size and watch them duke it out. Actually make like 3 WWEs; 90's WWE, 2000's WWE and 2010's WWE. I love these ideas
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# ? May 11, 2020 01:33 |
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This sounds neat. I'm not sure what I want or what I think will be good so I'll probably just read along for a while and pipe in infrequently.
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# ? May 11, 2020 01:59 |
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We should make the ultimate warrior our champ until he is taken down by his student, mason ryan, who is then taken down by his student 'The Rarity'
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# ? May 11, 2020 02:01 |
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The 1993 UFC roster guys thrown in against Kaiju Big Battle wrestlers
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# ? May 11, 2020 02:35 |
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Dissolve the WWE and bring back UWFi
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# ? May 11, 2020 02:39 |
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WMAC Masters roster
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# ? May 11, 2020 03:09 |
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There is actually a mod called "War of the Worlds" that has a similar 'all time periods converge' theme. I've never used it personally so I can't speak for the specifics. Also I'm not sure if it started on TEW 2013 or 16. It beats having to faff about with a database from scratch (an activity which probably has about a 99.7% burnout rate, even if you're just importing the workers from other dbs) And as much as I love the worker signing scramble I bet it would make the early days take like 6 hours each for the AI to resolve. I may try it when 2020 comes out with the new modern day mod if I'm feeling up to it. And if you're thinking "wait, weren't those your ideas to begin with"? Yes, yes they are. Another idea; for the life of me I can't remember if this was my idea or if this was somebody else's idea. Combat sports are illegal. The largest wrestling companies are small, half the workers are MMA crossovers, 80% of them 'have had trouble with the law in the past', even the wrestlers who are otherwise positive influences, and most of them absolutely suck. But that would involve making a db from scratch. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 07:30 on May 11, 2020 |
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ChrisBTY posted:And if you're thinking "wait, weren't those your ideas to begin with"? Yes, yes they are. Alright, really glad you were willing to bring up the fact that your ideas were super labor intensive, I didn't want to harsh the good vibes of this potentially cool thread. But yeah, your ideas are super labor intensive.
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# ? May 11, 2020 07:30 |
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That having been said, if you like the alternate/convergent timeline stuff the mod I was talking about is actually called 'War of the Immortals 3'. I don't know that much about it so I can't vouch for its quality, but it's there. http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=524322 And as far as the worker scramble goes; how labor intensive it is directly correlates to how easy it is to set all workers to 'unemployed' in the DB. Somebody mentioned you can play with it directly in the file code but I really don't know anything about that. The big problem is whether or not the game can handle the strain of handling that many decisions per day in the early going without barfing up a lung (and how patient you are). If you go with this you should probably use a smaller db/limit the game world to US only. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 07:51 on May 11, 2020 |
# ? May 11, 2020 07:48 |
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Multi Generation EWR's are a mixed bag, because what if you had people like Eddie, or Hayabusa, or Daniel Bryan were at their peaks with modern rosters but you've got to balance that out with Roman Reigns and Hulk Hogan and Zandig are on the same roster.
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# ? May 11, 2020 07:51 |
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RealFoxy posted:Multi Generation EWR's are a mixed bag, because what if you had people like Eddie, or Hayabusa, or William Regal were at their peaks with modern rosters but you've got to balance that out with Roman Reigns and Hulk Hogan and Zandig are on the same roster. That's why I suggested having the companies themselves be split into multiple versions, otherwise the rosters would get beyond bloated. Also I had another idea. This would again be labor intensive but when I mentioned it before a year or three back people got a kick out of it. I would have done it myself but I know there is absolutely no goddamn way I would have finished it. A what if scenario? What if Vince goes down in the steroid trials, Jerry Jarrett runs WWE into the ground and WCW, despite winning the Monday Night Wars, collapses under the weight of it's own mismanagement? The year is 2001, there is no national face of American professional wrestling. ~ WWF Despite a 6 year stint in Club Fed and his company collapsing, Vince retains the intellectual property rights of WWF and with the assistance of a substantial loan from a 'mysterious' investor, he attempts to resurrect his fallen empire. Despite the name brand being tarnished and having little else to work with he is able to re-acquire the services of several workers who either remained loyal to the company or simply see him as the best employment option. Key Stars: The Undertaker, Shawn Micheals, HHH, Ric Flair ~ WCW After running WWF out of business and taking their most vital talent, WCW got too bloated for its own good and collapsed under the weight of it's own mismanagement, creative bankruptcy and catastrophic backstage politics. Eric Bischoff is able to buy what's left of the company from AOL/Time Warner with the assistance of Fusient Media and attempts to rebuild the company with the only thing he knows; Hulk Hogan and workers loyal to the brand Key Stars: Hulk Hogan, The Giant, DDP, Sting, Lex Luger ~ TNA Despite his disastrous attempt to keep WWF afloat during what would have been the attitude era, Jerry Jarrett (with sufficient support of his son Jeff believe that they have what it takes to fill the of the American wrestling industry. Thus TNA is born of a combination of wrestlers that Jerry did right by in WWF, most notably a young Dwayne Johnson, a highlight of WWF's death throes and wrestlers disgruntled with their place in WCW's hierarchy. Key Stars: Jeff Jarrett, Dwayne Johnson, Scott Steiner, Booker T ~ ECW Without WCW and WWF snatching their talent left, right and center ECW was able to retain its core and it's identity (and a few potential megastars) and remained as the last company standing in the wake of the Monday Night Wars. In fact, were it not for the product they push being advertiser unfriendly they may have emerged as the dominant power in the North American wrestling landscape. Now they face a choice; continue being the niche promotion they are or change their identity to make a push to the big leagues. Key Stars: Steve Austin, Cactus Jack, RVD, Raven ~ Stampede Both Bret and Owen Hart got massive contracts by WCW in their final push to drive WWF under. Both Bret and Owen were lost in the political shuffle of WCW and left the company disgusted with not only WCW, but the US's culture and perception of what wrestling is. With their massive paydays they set out to rebuild their father's wrestling dynasty in Canada with the help of the bumper crop of Canadian wrestlers. Key Stars: Bret Hart, Owen Hart, Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit ~ Lucha Underground Feeling underappreciated and under-utilized by WCW Eddy Guerrero and Rey Mysterio Jr were planning on heading back to Mexico when young Director/Product Robert Rodriguez approached them with an interesting offer; create a new company with the intent of popularizing lucha libre in the United States. The idea intrigued them but they knew that despite their mission statement they would need somebody more relatable (read: white american) to play to the US audience. So they decide to take a chance on an Olympic Gold Medalist looking to break into the industry. Key Stars: Rey Mysterio Jr, Eddy Guerrero, Konnan, Kurt Angle The new War for North American wrestling begins. Four Notes: 1) each company starts at the Cult Level 2) Due to wrestling cooling off no wrestler has above a C in popularity 3) Assume the best case scenario for each wrestler. Bret never got concussed multiple times and retired, Scott Hall's career isn't completely crippled by alcoholism, Owen Hart is still alive etc. 4) Nash, Hall and Goldberg are all free agents. (yes I know these notes are unnecessary since there's no way anybody is actually going to do this but I just put them there for the sake of completion) ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 08:33 on May 11, 2020 |
# ? May 11, 2020 08:29 |
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I'm 100% down for a new TEW thread
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# ? May 11, 2020 09:19 |
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I just want to book a women's promotion, and I don't mind doing most of the work for it. Preferably TJPW because it's a small roster I know. I was never able to in the previous game because of the state of women's wrestling in the attitude era.
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# ? May 11, 2020 09:55 |
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The hardest part about team games isn't actually the work done by the person with the game it's waiting forever for the teams to write their shows. Also I would happily join one of the teams if a team game starts I still like to reminisce about our run as ECW built around Kurt Angle and Edge in the Monday Night Wars game IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 17:24 on May 13, 2020 |
# ? May 13, 2020 17:22 |
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Just want to give everyone a quick update. We're definitely going with the team game idea. We just need to figure out how many people are going to be a part of it so we can divide them up into teams as evenly as possible. I will update the OP at some point today with the names of the people already interested.
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# ? May 13, 2020 18:30 |
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If elected to a team, I promise to arbitrarily pick one (1) undercard loser and demand the whole show be used to build them up at the expense of everything.
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# ? May 13, 2020 18:41 |
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projecthalaxy posted:If elected to a team, I promise to arbitrarily pick one (1) undercard loser and demand the whole show be used to build them up at the expense of everything. Same but actually it's just going to be Chuck Taylor even if the database doesn't have Chuck Taylor yet.
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# ? May 13, 2020 19:06 |
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projecthalaxy posted:If elected to a team, I promise to arbitrarily pick one (1) undercard loser and demand the whole show be used to build them up at the expense of everything. Honestly that's all anyone could ever ask of you. karmicknight posted:Same but actually it's just going to be Chuck Taylor even if the database doesn't have Chuck Taylor yet. Chuckie T will indeed be in the database. I've picked out a pretty good mod that has an updated roster of over 5000 wrestlers and personalities. I'm gonna tweak it a little bit as well so there will be tons of stuff for everybody. The OP has been updated! Spread the word, please! I'm super excited about how well received this has been so far. I'm looking forward to doing this for you guys! Hiram fucked around with this message at 22:58 on May 13, 2020 |
# ? May 13, 2020 22:56 |
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i'd like to clarify for the sake of the OP. i was strictly interested in custom wrestlers. about 1,200 of them to make sure there are enough to go around the world. you need to make each wrestler and spend some time on them to flesh them out and make them shine. my friends below will help you in this effort by coming up with characters and their backstories, so it won't be too hard. if that's not happening and it's something to do with teams then I politely decline to be involved. however I will look at the thread.
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# ? May 13, 2020 22:58 |
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I'm definitely interested, especially if I can try to revive ROH
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# ? May 14, 2020 03:07 |
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I may demonstrably be a terrible writer, but when has that been an issue with wrestling? Count me in.
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# ? May 14, 2020 04:12 |
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I don't want to be a head booker, but i will be a specialist. Like how TNA gave all their cinematic stuff to Borash or how Kenny is the boss of the AEW women's division. Specifically, my specialty will be awkward sponcon segments. If Byron Saxton needs to pretend to enjoy a delicious Crunchwrap AM, I'm the guy you call in.
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# ? May 14, 2020 04:43 |
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I will do the same thing I did in the last two games where I herd the rest of the cats in the writers room into not offering a billion contracts to all their favorites and then end up with a mess of a show because we have too many people
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# ? May 14, 2020 05:41 |
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IcePhoenix posted:I will do the same thing I did in the last two games where I herd the rest of the cats in the writers room into not offering a billion contracts to all their favorites and then end up with a mess of a show because we have too many people Team TNA signed all of our favorites but then cut half the roster to make room so it balanced out. We made our first Impact have every match be a loser leaves town match. It's too bad we never got to run Bound for Glory for the blow off of IMMORTAL EXPLODES!
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# ? May 14, 2020 05:59 |
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 19:33 |
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I'm excited to hear what the OP's concept is for the game! I had a ton of fun in the MNW thread back in the day and was sad when the Summer Of Punk thread died before its time.
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# ? May 14, 2020 06:04 |