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Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


I never watched DS9, I want to hear more about Worf being a total failure.

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Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


This all reminds me that DS9 was just a soap opera with Star Trek skin.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


Was watching TNG tonight while making dinner and it was the episode where the Enterprise makes first contact with a planet about to achieve warp, and I completely forgot the cameo by Frasier's wife who forces Riker to bang her to fulfill her alien sex fantasy. It's a pretty moment in an episode that is all "extremely serious business".

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


Yeah, that's kind of a ridiculous complaint. If they brought back FDR should he have been doing backflips?

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


mysterious frankie posted:

Yes? You cast a level 9 science magic spell to summon a version of someone who in life suffered from a horrible degenerative illness with the illness fully in effect for the sake of, what, verisimilitude?

What is the point of the exercise if not to see and experience them as they were?

Otherwise why not just simulate Hawkings mind in the body of a gorilla with a rocket launcher?

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


Ghost Leviathan posted:

The very definition of a bad example

If he was in a gorilla he could smash the table when dealt a bad hand and use the rocket launcher to blow up his opponents.

mysterious frankie posted:

If a vital part of the experience is temporarily resurrecting a crippled man with accurate conditions they shouldn’t have made him with the little robotic poker arm. They should have also generated PhD candidates that hover around him, leaning close to receive his muttered poker instructions, then playing the cards for him. Otherwise, what’s the point of the exercise, apparently.

Also dumb. Hovering PhD candidates are neither part of Hawkings body nor his mind. They are not him. His body, in that wheelchair, was an important attribute that contributed in an extremely meaningful way his entire life to the person he was.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


mysterious frankie posted:

In life Hawking’s chair never had a robotic arm that allowed him to independently receive, arrange, then present cards to the table. By dint of its inclusion the entire point of the game is, by your rules, rendered meaningless. Anarchy has been loosed upon Friday night poker.

Having the robotic arm attachment so it can move some chips around for the convenience of the game doesn't change who he is. Him being able to stand and walk and move them with own arms would. It would not represent the same person.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


mysterious frankie posted:

We don’t see him press buttons to manipulate the arm.

Why would we see this? By the time he participated in this episode he had already lost the use of his hands and used the movement of muscles in his cheek to interface with a computer.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


mysterious frankie posted:

Not when you’re making a clone of him for funsies. Actually respecting him would mean not creating a fake Hawking to go on adventures with. Once you’ve crossed that bridge, of making an accurate simulation of a real person and putting them in situations for your pleasure without their explicit consent, your actions have shown a fundamental selfishness. So the only question that remains is what does how you remake them say about you. Imo, making a fully ALS’d Hawking kinda says you lack basic empathy. Bring him back before his illness rendered him unable to perform basic functions unaided. Why is that specific Hawkings preferable? Because you enjoy the aesthetic of this specific chairbound man?

The entire holodeck simulation is about Data. The characters being simulated are not actually alive, so why would their wants, desires or dignity play any factor in Data's decision to create a simulation that accurately represents what they were like in real life?

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


Ello Guv'na! It's me Stephen Hawking, just as the 'ol world remembers me! Fancy a game of poker mate?

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


mysterious frankie posted:

Also, humorous pedantry aside, it’s kinda lol to imagine Geordi sitting at a terminal, programming himself up a Hawking and specifically writing in a mechanical arm with cheek controls, then making changes to Hawkings brain so he’d know how to use it, maybe arguing with a future version of me on the internet about the decision.

Geordi would have programmed Hawkins to fall in love with him.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


GEORDI: Professor, can you help me calculate the alpha-wave transwarp injector ratio?

HAWKING: does. that. visor. get. you. mad. pussy?

GEORDI: Woah! Professor, that's not something I really want to talk about.

HAWKING: i. would. be. getting. it. wet. all. the. time.

GEORDI: Uh ok, can we stick to the calculations please?

HAWKING: i. see. still. a. virgin.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


blatman posted:

the biggest issue with tng isn't that data would casually update historical figure holograms for convenience or that geordi never gets laid, it's that geordi didn't install a phaser in his visor so he can cyclops bad guys

Woah there! You think Star Fleet is some kind of military operation?? We're just "explorers", that's all!

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


Did Geordi and Harry Kim ever meet up and have a meeting of "nice" guys who are actually creeps?

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


The Federations politicking skills are basically on par with our current presidential administration. Utterly clueless and incompetent.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


Which Trek culture is it that can't provide healthcare but can blow up the everloving poo poo out of anyone in the galaxy?

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


Having a deus ex machina of benevolent space gods is completely antithetical to Star Treks.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


Unsourced internet rumors saying that basically every current Trek show is about to be nuked - save Discovery - due to management shakeup at Paramount.

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Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002


Cranappleberry posted:

I guess Klingon kids grow faster?

and didn't he end up going to the klingon academy?

klingons rely a lot on suspension of disbelief. Sort of like how everyone speaks english, which is because of the universal translator, but then can also speak their own language somehow which doesn't translate and also when their mouths move they are making shapes for english words.

Trying to fix this is how you end up with the Klingons in Discovery.

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