The ds9 episode where O'Brien is trapped in a prison in his mind for 20 years

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Woebin: Feb 6, 2006

It's been too long since I properly watched DS9, but I remember thinking that Sisko was a great dad.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2020 03:47

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 14:35

Woebin: Feb 6, 2006

Anonymous Zebra posted:

Yes, Sisko is a good dad, and it was a very specific decision to have him portrayed as a good father in the show. There was a systemic problem (and there still is) of black father's being portrayed as being deadbeats or otherwise removed from their children's lives, leaving single moms to raise their children. The decision to portray Sisko as an attentive father who always found time to bond with his son was part of a lot of little things DS9 did in their portrayal of him that probably went over the heads of most white people watching the show.

EDIT: Incidentally, this is why Avery Brookes was PISSSED when the finale of the series had him literally ghosting out on his pregnant wife, and why he made them add lines that implied his little spirit journey would not be that long in corporeal time.

EDIT2: If you want to see a contemporary comparison to how black fathers can be portrayed poorly, go watch LOST and see how Micheal and WALT! are portrayed and where their stories end up.

Oh yeah, I'm kind of aware of the issues with Black dad portrayals in media but this is still a side of Sisko that went over my head (surprise, I'm white as hell). It's a case of only noticing these things when they're bad, I think, for me anyway - if Sisko had been more in line with negative stereotypes about Black dads I might have noticed it and been disappointed that they play into those ideas, but when that's not happen as much I don't notice it even though it's much more rare.

I'm not doing a great job expressing this, I think, but in short: thanks for making this point, it gives me another reason why DS9 is the best Trek.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2020 13:14

Woebin: Feb 6, 2006

Angepain posted:

Except in this episode

Where it turns out he's the only person other than Miles who can get the baby to be quiet

Worf's a poo poo dad but would probably be a pretty cool uncle.

# ¿ Jul 25, 2020 08:55

Woebin: Feb 6, 2006

Angepain posted:

I checked Memory Alpha and she was about 19 when she came to ds9 so it's fine! Totally fine! I keep a piece of paper with the cardassian age of consent law in my pocket at all times. At least he didn't end up with Bashir! Two men! Imagine it - or don't ahahaha. Men. This post brought to you by rick berman

# ¿ Aug 7, 2020 10:19

Woebin: Feb 6, 2006

I always had the feeling that many of the people working on DS9 wanted to go more explicitly queer but that someone higher up wouldn't allow it. I blame Rick Berman.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2020 15:22

Woebin: Feb 6, 2006

Actually it's Little Green Men.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2020 12:54

Woebin: Feb 6, 2006

My man Bashir :swoon:

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 14:35

Woebin: Feb 6, 2006

I'm rewatching with a friend who hasn't seen any trek before, and introduced Bashir as "Dr. Bisexual Disaster". I would die for him.

# ¿ Nov 11, 2020 08:59

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