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Calico Heart
Mar 22, 2012

"wich the worst part was what troll face did to sonic's corpse after words wich was rape it. at that point i looked away"





In this thread we post and enjoy the absolute stupidest storylines, plotpoints, events, and episodes from Sci-Fi and Fantasy media.

Need an example? In the Threshold episode of Star Trek Voyager, a scientist discovers he can super-evolve by... going really fast. He then decides to kidnap captain Janeway and force both of them to super-evolve. This culminates in them both becoming lizards (???), crash landing on a swamp planet, and then loving. The rest of the crew discover Janeway and Man as lzards and their disgusting spawn scurrying off into the night, and then "un-evolve" them. They all decide never to speak of this event again, but only AFTER Janeway decides to flirt with the scientist who kidnapped her and turned her into a lizard.

Oh, and of course, this all-time classic:



So goons, what is the the absolute bottom of the fantasy-barrel?

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blatman
May 9, 2009

14 inc dont mez


to be fair the space ship in Theshhold went really really really fast

also you forgot that they left their lizard babies on the planet and hosed off back into the void except for the one that janeway kept in a fishtank in her office as a backup lunch incase tuvix tried cooking leola root again

also it wasn't just any scientist, it was spaceship driver and sex god tom paris riker paris I guess?

for content the TNG episode "Justice" is pretty bad, the voyager lands on a golf course and wil wheaton gets the death penalty for launching himself into some lovely plants but then picard manages to convince the locals' god to show mercy so they zip off into space which is immediately followed by a lovely ferengi episode

The Mighty Moltres
Dec 21, 2012

Come! We must fly!


Tuvix

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012


Doctor Who, Love and Monsters. It's an episode about basically a Doctor Who fan club run by Peter Kay, who's playing a parody of the most irritating and unpleasant Doctor Who fan around. It turns out he's secretly a giant blob monster from the twin planet of the homeworld of a previously shown race that farts a lot, and he's absorbing the fan club into his body one by one. He's beaten by his powers overloading so he gets absorbed into the earth, then the Doctor resurrects his last victim as a paving slab with a face, and the episode ends with a joke about her and her boyfriend's sex life.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.




I absolutely hate Dr Who because it's so unrelentingly grotesque and morbid, coupled with a snobbish judgey hero who wags their finger at everyone. I bet all the companions who survived their tenure ended up as jaded alcoholics.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007



Inspector Gesicht posted:

I absolutely hate Dr Who because it's so unrelentingly grotesque and morbid, coupled with a snobbish judgey hero who wags their finger at everyone. I bet all the companions who survived their tenure ended up as jaded alcoholics.

Yeah, basically. I would argue that there are a few standout episodes, but it leans into really weird moralizing all too often. As far as the show is concerned, The Doctor is God and everything s/he believes is right and if you don’t agree you need to be lectured at, and boy howdy does the show love its lectures.

My “favorite” example of this is Kill the Moon, where Earth’s moon turns out to be a giant alien egg that might exterminate all life on the planet if it's allowed to hatch, and the issue is used as a bizarre and confusing allegory for the abortion debate.

Calico Heart
Mar 22, 2012

"wich the worst part was what troll face did to sonic's corpse after words wich was rape it. at that point i looked away"





Dabir posted:

Doctor Who, Love and Monsters. It's an episode about basically a Doctor Who fan club run by Peter Kay, who's playing a parody of the most irritating and unpleasant Doctor Who fan around. It turns out he's secretly a giant blob monster from the twin planet of the homeworld of a previously shown race that farts a lot, and he's absorbing the fan club into his body one by one. He's beaten by his powers overloading so he gets absorbed into the earth, then the Doctor resurrects his last victim as a paving slab with a face, and the episode ends with a joke about her and her boyfriend's sex life.

lol doesn't Sherlock also loving hate it's own audience? One season ends with Sherlock jumping off a building to his death, then he is miraculously alive the following season, and the one character who wants to know how he survived is portrayed as a fat, annoying, whiny, cloying fanboy. The show outright insulted the audience preemtively if they felt ripped off by the shows lovely writing.

Inspector Gesicht posted:

I absolutely hate Dr Who because it's so unrelentingly grotesque and morbid, coupled with a snobbish judgey hero who wags their finger at everyone. I bet all the companions who survived their tenure ended up as jaded alcoholics.

This is maybe made worse by the fact the entire show has the tone and feeling of being for kids. The music, dialoge, sets etc very much give off a "children's show" vibe and then it will go "no!!!!people die in this show and get hosed up this is for adults!!!!!"

I have a pretty low opinion of these two shows

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."


Calico Heart posted:

lol doesn't Sherlock also loving hate it's own audience? One season ends with Sherlock jumping off a building to his death, then he is miraculously alive the following season, and the one character who wants to know how he survived is portrayed as a fat, annoying, whiny, cloying fanboy. The show outright insulted the audience preemtively if they felt ripped off by the shows lovely writing.
The writer of Love and Monsters didn't write Sherlock.

Love and Monsters is about a group of fans who find genuine value in their group and who are destroyed by one toxic person in their midst. It's got a shitload of problems as an episode but it's a defence of fandom, not an attack on it.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me


Calico Heart posted:

lol doesn't Sherlock also loving hate it's own audience? One season ends with Sherlock jumping off a building to his death, then he is miraculously alive the following season, and the one character who wants to know how he survived is portrayed as a fat, annoying, whiny, cloying fanboy. The show outright insulted the audience preemtively if they felt ripped off by the shows lovely writing.


This is maybe made worse by the fact the entire show has the tone and feeling of being for kids. The music, dialoge, sets etc very much give off a "children's show" vibe and then it will go "no!!!!people die in this show and get hosed up this is for adults!!!!!"

I have a pretty low opinion of these two shows

Moffat is on record that if you ask "how" he hates you. The "how" is "I'm loving Sherlock Holmes" or "I'm Moriarty." You should watch our mystery show for the drama, not the mystery.

gleebster
Dec 16, 2006

Only a howler

Pillbug

Even "at the Reichenbach Falls I was hiding from you, Watson" was amazingly contrived, but Conan Doyle had purposefully written the original story to get rid of Holmes.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.




According to the Hbomberguy video on Sherlock they never explain how Sherlock faked his own death, and after a couple of episodes all the detective work happens off-screen.

You can easily flip Sherlock Holmes' gender, class, orientation, ethnicity, or nationality and the appeal of the character would still be recognizable. But if he spends more time on family drama than solving mysteries then you've missed the point. Now you're watching a stuck-up ponce wank off to his own cleverness.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

STILL ANGRY ABOUT CHEESE


Inspector Gesicht posted:

I absolutely hate Dr Who because it's so unrelentingly grotesque and morbid, coupled with a snobbish judgey hero who wags their finger at everyone. I bet all the companions who survived their tenure ended up as jaded alcoholics.

The problem with modern Who is it's made by fanboys.

Calico Heart
Mar 22, 2012

"wich the worst part was what troll face did to sonic's corpse after words wich was rape it. at that point i looked away"





Epieodes is a pretty bad type but a pretty good name for the hero in a bad swords and sandals book

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012


yeah to be clear: the enormous fat blob monster who serves as the episode's antagonist and ruins everything for everyone is based on a specific real person who self-identifies as a superfan, had a minor role in production back in the 80s and thinks everything since has been poo poo

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

I'm the babyliberal, gotta love me!


Dabir posted:

yeah to be clear: the enormous fat blob monster who serves as the episode's antagonist and ruins everything for everyone is based on a specific real person who self-identifies as a superfan, had a minor role in production back in the 80s and thinks everything since has been poo poo

And Who cares, apparently.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.


Taco Defender

The other week I randomly caught an episode of the 1980s TV series Buck Rogers in the 25th Century and boy was it a doozy. Here's the Wikipedia synopsis:

quote:

After the galactic beauty queen "Miss Cosmos" is attacked by a mysterious woman, Buck and Wilma are assigned to protect her while she travels aboard a luxury space liner. There, Buck encounters a shy girl named Alison Michaels who suffers from periodic blackouts to which her boyfriend Jay Davin dismisses as mental stress brought on by hypertension. After another attack against Miss Cosmos, Buck confronts the assailant, a wild-haired woman named Sabrina who demonstrates superhuman strength and powerful psychokinetic abilities. When Buck checks on Alison, she confesses to having visions of committing crimes and hurting people. Buck begins suspecting that Sabrina and Alison are the same and that Jay is exploiting her abilities so that they can capture Miss Cosmos and sell her perfect genetics on the black market. Dr. Theopolis later confirms this and identifies Alison as a transmute, a split personality with the genetic ability to transform into an entirely separate entity during times of extreme emotional distress. Buck sets a trap for the alter persona in hopes of saving Alison from the monster that lurks inside her.

However, this summary leaves out a lot of crazy stuff that happens in the episode. For example, the guest star of the episode is the beauty queen Miss Cosmos, however the episode goes out of its way to exposit that in the future beauty contests aren't just concerned with superficial things like looks, no, they also are focused on genetic purity and that Miss Cosmos, a blonde-haired blue-eyed white lady, is the most genetically perfect woman in existence. They don't mention this just once, no, they mention it repeatedly throughout the episode. The episode also features only a single non-white actor, a useless bodyguard who gets no lines

Additionally, there's a subplot involving a robot character that helps Buck Rogers with his work. While they're on the luxury space liner the robot meets a lady version of himself (the robots are gendered because ???) working as a waitress on the ship and they say, as explicitly as you could for 80s prime-time TV, that they gently caress. Like, at one point Buck tells his boss to "expect more little robots soon" or something along those lines. The whole thing was just so bizarre and there are a lot more little WTF moments throughout the episode I can't remember at the moment.

I've never seen another episode of this show so I can't judge how much of an outlier this episode is but I kind of want to watch the rest of it now if the average episode is even half as insane as this one.

Mr.Radar has a new favorite as of 18:36 on May 18, 2020

FreezingInferno
Jul 15, 2010

THERE.
WILL.
BE.
NO.
BATTLE.
HERE!


For this, there can only be one choice from me: the Star Trek Enterprise episodes "Affliction" and "Divergence". A two-part Klingon storyline from that show's fourth season which has some real tension to it (and James "Uncle Phil" Avery as a Klingon, so that's neat) but is killed stone dead by the sheer continuity porn fanwank inherent in its premise.

So, like, the last season of Enterprise was run by a dude named Manny Coto, who was a big big 60's Star Trek fan and here he is at the helm of this Star Trek prequel series. Starting on his run the show went full tilt into 60's Trek references/continuity nonsense, but these two episodes take the cake because they basically exist to answer a question already answered with a joke line almost a decade prior.

That question being, of course, "hey how come Klingons on 60's Star Trek are just dudes in brownface but every Klingon who shows up after, even in our prequel show, has those big forehead bumps?". Despite the fact that, as I said, there was a Deep Space Nine episode where this gets brought up and Worf is just like "yeah we don't talk about that.". It's a funny lampshade and that's all you need, but apparently this poo poo kept Manny Coto up at night so he had to write this grand elaborate plot with Klingons using Augment technology (aka the eugenics supermen of Star Trek's past, like Khan) to try and create their own super-Klingons but loving up and giving them... forehead bump smoothing mutations?

Like, I'm sorry, is anyone else at ease with this poo poo being explained? For me it was just a colossal waste of 90 minutes. Manny Coto and friends spent more money than I'll make in my life answering some dumb sci-fi inconsistency bullshit from the 60's that nobody asked about. There are a lot of bad episodes in Enterprise I could yell about, but this one took the cake for me in its sheer unneeded excess.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

STILL ANGRY ABOUT CHEESE


Let's just say "All of Voyager and Enterprise" so we can move on from them, or we'll be here all year listing stupid episodes.

Moo the cow
Apr 30, 2020



How about the Star Trek TNG where Dr Crusher fucks a space ghost?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Zc8Co2H3w#t=319s

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

I'm the babyliberal, gotta love me!


Moo the cow posted:

How about the Star Trek TNG where Dr Crusher fucks a space ghost?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Zc8Co2H3w#t=319s

Buddy,

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.




I hate Harry Potter but I can easily understand the appeal. The problem with the attempts to expand and continue the brand is that it's missing the conceit that made the series popular in the first place. The character most important to the series success is Hogwarts, a boarding-school that people wish they could attend because of all the fantasy kitchen-sink stuff. Once you've moved on or exhausted that angle then all other flaws of the setting become paramount: the whiteness of the cast, the muddled moralizing, the paper-thin and frankly racist world-building. The biggest fault is the author trying to externally retcon the series to be more daring/diverse/topical than it actually is.

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in



Would you like me to fix the misspelling in the title, Calico Heart? It has a certain charm.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

STILL ANGRY ABOUT CHEESE


Moo the cow posted:

How about the Star Trek TNG where Dr Crusher fucks a space ghost?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Zc8Co2H3w#t=319s

Worst part was that a big chunk of the "drama" was that Dr Crusher was maybe going to leave forever! Even at the time, I was thinking "Oh no. Please don't go. Please don't force the producers to bring back the far more interesting Dr Pulaski and remove any last reason for Wesley to ever return. Anything but that."

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.


Overall, Babylon 5 is pretty tight-paced and doesn't have a ton of bad "filler" episodes (season 5 notwithstanding.)

But there are exceptions:

TKO, from the first season. We're suddenly supposed to care that this best friend of...Garibaldi(?) is entering a NO HUMANS ALLOWED alien muay-thai deathmatch. We've never seen him before, and never see him again, who the Hell cares?

Grey 17 is Missing, from the third season. Garibaldi is kidnapped by weird cultists who live on a "missing" deck of the space-station they sealed off. They want to feed him to some loving alien monster that they, somehow, just have lying around. He survives by shooting bullets at it by putting them in a steam pipe. I want to say it was sort of a "tribute" to the Gorn episode of Star Trek, but it really fell flat.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.




I stopped watching Farscape at some point early on before it's supposed to "git gud". It was after episode where Astronaut man gets all whiny, then gets stranded on a planet full of Hawaiians. He gets into trouble but they manage to win over the simple natives by convincing them the greedy puppet guy is their deity. Probably not as racist as TNG's "Code of Honor" but still something of a low point.

Goddamn, Babylon 5 cast reunions must be the saddest thing.

Inspector Gesicht has a new favorite as of 21:12 on May 18, 2020

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

When I was a kid, Lost in Space was my favorite show. Yes, it was campy, but it was fun. And then "The Great Vegetable Rebellion" happened.

I'll let Bill Mumy and Jonathan Harris explain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPRFXR_oK8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV5d39QYkcs

THIS GUY ROCKS:

Haschel Cedricson
Jan 4, 2006

Brinkmanship


The worst episode of Star Trek isn't from Voyager or Enterprise; it's from TNG. But it's not the one about loving a space ghost, or any of the garbage episodes in season 1 that have me honestly amazed the show got renewed. No, the worst episode by far is Reunification Part 2.

Reunification Part 2 is the loving worst because it takes one of the best episodes of TNG - Yesterday's Enterprise - and takes a giant poo poo all over it. Yesterday's Enterprise acknowledge how messed up it was that Tasha Yar was killed for no reason by an evil oil slick, and it gave Yar the chance to go out doing something heroic. Sure, the Enterprise-C was doomed, but she went down fighting. She mattered.'

Now all of a sudden we find out that Tasha Yar didn't die at all, but was captured by Romulans and forced into a sexual relationship with a general where she wound up giving birth and then getting executed for trying to escape with her daughter. Oh, and it was the daughter who turned her in for trying to escape.

What was the point? I can't enjoy Yesterday's Enterprise because the entire premise has had the legs cut out from under and for literally no reason other than they wanted Denise Crosby to guest-star as a Romulan? gently caress that.

Tiggum
Oct 23, 2007


I just watched the Orville season two episode All the World Is Birthday Cake last night, and that is a weirdly bad episode. The entire show is obviously heavily influenced by TNG, but this episode, more than any other, really feels like season one TNG. It's got the classic "this society is just like modern Earth except for one crazy thing" aspect and the extreme oversimplification that you'd expect from a TV show from 30 years ago. Basically, the entire society is represented by one individual. There's no indication of any internal politics or differing beliefs, the leader speaks for everyone and has no opposition other than the outsiders from the Orville. And, like an old Star Trek episode, they're able to pull off a simple trick that not only allows them to escape but also causes massive societal changes pretty much immediately.

I also rewatched the 1998 Stargate SG-1 episode Secrets and I was stuck by the similarity between the childbirth scenes in it and the Orville. In both cases an untrained and inexperienced main cast member has to "help" a woman give birth (by saying "push" a few times and doing literally nothing else) and in both cases it was quick, clean, and straight-forward and the mother was on her feet immediately afterward.


Inspector Gesicht posted:

Probably not as racist as TNG's "Code of Honor"
The best thing about Code of Honor is that the writer turned in the exact same story for an episode of Stargate SG-1, and it's just as bad the second time.

Calico Heart
Mar 22, 2012

"wich the worst part was what troll face did to sonic's corpse after words wich was rape it. at that point i looked away"





Inspector Gesicht posted:

I hate Harry Potter but I can easily understand the appeal. The problem with the attempts to expand and continue the brand is that it's missing the conceit that made the series popular in the first place. The character most important to the series success is Hogwarts, a boarding-school that people wish they could attend because of all the fantasy kitchen-sink stuff. Once you've moved on or exhausted that angle then all other flaws of the setting become paramount: the whiteness of the cast, the muddled moralizing, the paper-thin and frankly racist world-building. The biggest fault is the author trying to externally retcon the series to be more daring/diverse/topical than it actually is.

I've said before, but; Harry Potter has the most absolutely paper-thin worldbuilding and consistency possible in a major series. If you start pulling on a single thread, like "why do wizards need money", "why are some spells illegal but others are", "do all wizards constantly have to check for cctv", "how come everyone on earth forgot theer are dragons/why do they need to be ekpt a secret", "why did muggles give up on slavery but wizards didn't - why does a magical wizard need a non-magical slave???" then everything falls apart.

Even JK Rowling realised she has hosed up by writing into the fifth book "and uh, then, all the time-travelling devices in the world broke, so shur the gently caress up about them".

LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

Would you like me to fix the misspelling in the title, Calico Heart? It has a certain charm.

I enjoy it. I would maybe enjoy a change like "WEIRD MAGIC: PYF stupid storylines/epieosdes in Sci-Fi-Fantasy"

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013



Calico Heart posted:

I enjoy it. I would maybe enjoy a change like "WEIRD MAGIC: PYF stupid storylines/epieosdes in Sci-Fi-Fantasy"

c'est fait

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.


I know exactly two things about Stargate: 1. Kurt Russell was in the movie and 2. There's a funny scene where the egyptian styled aliens show off their martial prowess by shooting their laser sticks badly and some soldier goes "lol welcome to earth" and sprays a machine gun and everyone agrees that machine guns are pretty cool.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006





I rewatched s1 of stargate some years back and holy poo poo the pilot had full frontal nudity and alien worm surprise sex. Then episode 2 was a family friendly planet of the week episode where the blonde lady is sword-fighting Genghis Khan.

bitterandtwisted has a new favorite as of 16:04 on May 19, 2020

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004


game of thrones

Polaron
Oct 13, 2010

The Oncoming Storm


Inspector Gesicht posted:

I stopped watching Farscape at some point early on before it's supposed to "git gud". It was after episode where Astronaut man gets all whiny, then gets stranded on a planet full of Hawaiians. He gets into trouble but they manage to win over the simple natives by convincing them the greedy puppet guy is their deity. Probably not as racist as TNG's "Code of Honor" but still something of a low point.

Yeah, Jeremiah Crichton (the episode in question) is widely considered to be the worst one in the show. It's also only about 2/3rds of the way through season 1 and literally one episode before things start to get nuts, so...Great stopping point, I guess?

Calico Heart
Mar 22, 2012

"wich the worst part was what troll face did to sonic's corpse after words wich was rape it. at that point i looked away"





Original series Trek is maybe shooting fish in a barrel with silly storylines, but Wolf in the Fold is exceptionally weird.

Scotty has a workplace accident that is the fault of a woman. As such, Kirk is afraid that Scotty will now hate all women. The obvious cure for hating all women is to take Scotty to a planet of prostitutes - you know, to make him like women again! Except, the moment they leave Scotty alone with a stripper - oops! - the stripper ends up violently murdered and Scotty can't remember anything. This happens like, three times before they decide to do something. They take him to the local Psychic, who says an evil spirit is possesing him. On board the ship, they suck the literal ghost out of Scotty, and then the literal ghost posseses the ship. The ghost explains it is a billion year old spirit who once took the form of JACK THE RIPPER, and it just loves killing women. The crew deduce that the spirit feeds off fear, so they decide they all need to get super high so they won't be afraid anymore. Weakened, the spirit goes into some guys body who they freeze and then shoot off into space (sucks to be them).

And the Jack the Ripper ghost is the voice of Winnie the Pooh.

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



Broken Cake

The best part is where they just gently caress off into space again to buy sex at a different planet and have a freeze-frame laugh, just forgetting the planet where multiple people are dead and their grieving families have no idea who murdered them or why.

Polaron
Oct 13, 2010

The Oncoming Storm


Antifa Turkeesian posted:

The best part is where they just gently caress off into space again to buy sex at a different planet and have a freeze-frame laugh, just forgetting the planet where multiple people are dead and their grieving families have no idea who murdered them or why.

It does get brought up again. Scotty mentions the "wee bit of trouble" he had on that planet in a later episode.

SO DEMANDING
Dec 27, 2003




Unlockable Ben

Way back in middle/high school I subscribed to the scifi magazine Analog, and man was there some serious trash published. What was real bad were the stories where it was obvious the author was just ham-fistedly shoving their weird fetishes in.

The worst one involved people uploading their consciousness into other bodies, mechanical or biological. Like one character temporarily uploaded into a robot body to get better access to some difficult, remote area or whatever. No big deal so far, nothing crazy here, lots of scifi has dealt with this.

It starts getting weird with the main character's wife. She's uploaded into a cat. Not temporarily or for laughs, she just straight up lives her life in the body of a regular housecat. No, this does not contribute anything to the plot, it's just at thing. Dude's married to a cat.

It goes straight into Deviant Art level stupidity with this secondary character who happens to occupy a gorilla body. Sounds fun, except he apparently has terrible incontinence issues, in public even, because I guess gorillas can't control their bowels or something?? So why not change bodies, it's apparently very easy in this story's universe? Because this character has an extreme fear of doing so! What a terrible situation! And no, this doesn't add anything to the plot, either. There just happens to be a gorilla with a history of making GBS threads himself in public.

Pretty sure I unsubscribed not long after that one.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

I'm the babyliberal, gotta love me!


I started getting Analog a few years ago. It's somewhat hit-and-miss, I think sometimes people just get away with publishing really subpar stuff or entirely irrelevant genre-wise because they're friends with somebody. And the editing this year has been atrocious. I was ready to just stop reading the last bimonthly, and haven't gotten around to the May-June one yet.

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Mister Mind
Mar 20, 2009

I'm not a real doctor,
But I am a real worm;
I am an actual worm


Bakeneko posted:

My “favorite” example of this is Kill the Moon, where Earth’s moon turns out to be a giant alien egg that might exterminate all life on the planet if it's allowed to hatch, and the issue is used as a bizarre and confusing allegory for the abortion debate.

There was a Superfriends episode like this, https://superfriends.fandom.com/wiki/Moon_Creature - some Apollo astronauts are on the moon, and then some moonquakes happen so they say, well, better get off the moon, right? And so the moon hatches and it’s some giant pterodactyl or something and it attacks Earth, and so Apache Chief says his magic word a dozen times and grows a thousand miles tall and THEY FIGHT WHILE STOMPING ALL ACROSS NORTH AMERICA. Anyhow, good guys win, and...uh, Superman seals the monster back inside the moon with his heat vision, I think?

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