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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:There's 22 good movies she could watch instead.
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May 28, 2020 23:39
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S-tier: Captain America: Winter Soldier Thor: Ragnarok Captain America: First Avenger A-tier: Captain Marvel Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Spider-Man: Homecoming Captain America: Civil War Spider-Man: Far from Home B-tier Guardians of the Galaxy Black Panther Ant-Man and the Wasp Avengers: Endgame Ant-Man C-tier Thor: The Dark World Iron Man 3 Incredible Hulk Thor Dr Strange Iron Man Marvel Owes Me a Refund Tier: Avengers Avengers: Infinity War Iron Man 2 Avengers: Age of Ultron
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May 29, 2020 04:37
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QueenOfTheEvening posted:Doctor Strange is a much more interesting movie when it's about him learning to accept his career is over than when he can do magic. I feel like he never really does that though. At the point he starts learning magic he's still chasing a cure for his hands that will let him resume his surgical career, and then after a bit he realizes that being an actual sorcerer is cooler than being a surgeon and just does that instead. There's no point where he has to realize that he's not special, because he always is.
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May 29, 2020 16:42
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thekeeshman posted:I feel like he never really does that though. At the point he starts learning magic he's still chasing a cure for his hands that will let him resume his surgical career, and then after a bit he realizes that being an actual sorcerer is cooler than being a surgeon and just does that instead. There's no point where he has to realize that he's not special, because he always is. It's not helped by the movie taking place over almost exactly one year and him being in recover for like 5 months or whatever plus all that other research. So he goes from that to becoming the sorcerer supreme in like a month? It really does come off like he's just like huh, magic is real? Weird, guess I'll learn all of that too but really really fast because I'm the main character. EDIT: LOL Remember that statement the director put out about how the Ancient One couldn't be Asian in this because he was adamant the Ancient One be a woman and that if they cast an Asian woman she would end up just being a stereotypical dragon lady? That's everything you need to know about the MCU right there - maybe just don't write the character in the most stereotypical way possible never even occurs at any point. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 19:48 on May 29, 2020 |
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May 29, 2020 19:45
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Neo Rasa posted:S-tier: This is amazing. I've never seen a more correct post on the SA forums. Cap: First Avenger is the only MCU movie i havent seen. I'm assuming its worth it?
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May 30, 2020 02:19
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Lechtansi posted:Cap: First Avenger is the only MCU movie i havent seen. I'm assuming its worth it? I would say it's B tier personally. It's fine.
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May 30, 2020 02:27
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Lechtansi posted:Cap: First Avenger is the only MCU movie i havent seen. I'm assuming its worth it? It's S-tier on my list as well. So yes, deffo worth it imo. [edit] For reference: teagone posted:TOP TIER (MCU's best) [edit] Added Far From Home to DOGSHIT TIER, and changed Top Tier numbering to "S" ranks. teagone fucked around with this message at 04:20 on May 30, 2020 |
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May 30, 2020 04:10
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Lechtansi posted:This is amazing. I've never seen a more correct post on the SA forums. It's the only one that transcends being "an MCU movie". Made before things got too formulaic it's got its own distinct style, helped by being set in the past instead of 201X like all the others.
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May 30, 2020 05:02
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S(hit) tier - All of them
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May 30, 2020 12:15
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Endgame is really when it all hits home (if it didn't before): these are films about nothing, they exist to put characters into situations so that they must fight one another and have fancy fireworks go off on the screen. Some people like fireworks displays, that's fine, but they're never that interesting when you're watching them on a screen.
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May 30, 2020 13:06
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Cap has that issue where the action setpieces aren't that good, but the first half in itself is the best Marvel movie. Similar to Ragnarok when its Taika doing his own thing also being the best Marvel movie.
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May 30, 2020 15:16
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Ragnarok, Dr. Strange, Ant-Man and Spiderman are the only ones that really feel like comic books.
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May 30, 2020 19:05
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Ang Lee's Hulk too! Edit: Raimi's spidermans
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Jun 1, 2020 07:43
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heh hey guys did did did anyone say heh heh watch good movies instead!? heheheheeheh
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Jun 1, 2020 15:27
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OpenSourceBurger posted:heh hey guys did did did anyone say I did.
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Jun 1, 2020 15:51
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:It's the only one that transcends being "an MCU movie". Made before things got too formulaic it's got its own distinct style, helped by being set in the past instead of 201X like all the others. If possible, do you mind re-posting that MCU timeline of how every film gradually became consumed by Iron Man? It's so good.
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Jun 1, 2020 21:40
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Not sure why people feel the need to shitpost here. The guy started a perfectly benign topic and people just had to be assholes about it, rather than just move on because it's about a movie series they don't care about.
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Jun 1, 2020 22:20
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sean10mm posted:Not sure why people feel the need to shitpost here. The guy started a perfectly benign topic and people just had to be assholes about it, rather than just move on because it's about a movie series they don't care about. but but but its marvel haven't you heard its lovely?
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Jun 2, 2020 03:16
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sean10mm posted:Not sure why people feel the need to shitpost here. The guy started a perfectly benign topic and people just had to be assholes about it, rather than just move on because it's about a movie series they don't care about. It seems like it branched into its own conversation like most things do. It didn't turn into shitposting until people popped in complaining about the much earlier shitposts in the thread.
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Jun 2, 2020 03:33
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I think the derail was worth it. I watched Chappie because of it and it was great.
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Jun 2, 2020 06:57
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Darko posted:It seems like it branched into its own conversation like most things do. It didn't turn into shitposting until people popped in complaining about the much earlier shitposts in the thread. Pretty much the entire first page is people posturing about how much better they are than to watch MCU movies and is the reason most posters go out of their way to talk about movies anywhere besides the movie subforum in a nutshell Like at least the digs in GBS would be at risk of being funny or even worth reading Anyway James Woods, I'm glad you went with chronological order of production. Let her decide for herself what's good and bad and have a discussion, or not. It'll be interesting to see what the reaction to that scene in Age of Ultron is. There's a lot of perplexing and flabbergasting scenes in that movie but I doubt I have to be more specific.
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Jun 2, 2020 08:22
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I tried watching part of a thor movie on tv. He spent half the film walking around in a hoodie and jeans I guess in disguise? but people were asking to take pictures with him so i guess they knew he was thor? None of it made nay sense but Anthony hopkins was there trying his best to pay for his new house or something also jeff goldblum was there for some reason i guess for irony. Anyway it was thoroughly terrible so I tuned it off.
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Jun 2, 2020 09:28
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banned from Starbucks posted:I tried watching part of a thor movie on tv. He spent half the film walking around in a hoodie and jeans I guess in disguise? but people were asking to take pictures with him so i guess they knew he was thor? None of it made nay sense but Anthony hopkins was there trying his best to pay for his new house or something also jeff goldblum was there for some reason i guess for irony. Anyway it was thoroughly terrible so I tuned it off.
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Jun 2, 2020 12:29
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Darko posted:It seems like it branched into its own conversation like most things do. It didn't turn into shitposting until people popped in complaining about the much earlier shitposts in the thread. Literally the first reply to the OP was a zero effort shitpost my dude.
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Jun 2, 2020 12:37
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sean10mm posted:Literally the first reply to the OP was a zero effort shitpost my dude. They're technically not wrong. OP was also asking for suggestions, so of course you'll have goons "posturing" by ragging on the MCU, lmao. Same way you'd get goons "posturing" on how bad DCEU films are in a similar discussion. Watching all 22 MCU films over however many consecutive nights does seem like overkill now that the "Infinity Saga" is complete. You can watch 10-12 of them and the narrative thrust is just as effective imo. Roughly half of the films are kinda like filler episodes that you can skip and aren't really worth watching. Unless you're some ultra-diehard Marvel fan and absolutely need/want to ingest it all, but seems like that's not the case here for OP's girlfriend. Binging MCU films also seems like it would amplify the flaws of franchise-driven filmmaking, e.g., like most of the MCU stories are basically the Iron Man origin told with different set dressing, the cookie-cutter application of Marvel's boilerplate "house style", and how tame the drama really is in relation to the lackluster/CG-laden action that's paraded around as cinematic spectacle. [edit] I also don't think offering up alternative films to MCU movies is shitposting. Rude? Maybe, I guess, considering the topic lol. [edit 2] Also OP edited these lines into the post, inviting/baiting goons to shitpost anyways so  James Woods posted:Feel free to poo poo up this thread with any horrible opinions you may have about comic books, Marvel, or why no matter how much you shake it you still get a little down your leg after taking a piss. teagone fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Jun 2, 2020 |
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Jun 2, 2020 16:24
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ndor posted:I think the derail was worth it. I watched Chappie because of it and it was great. You're drat right you did.
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Jun 2, 2020 16:44
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James Woods posted:Edit Edit: Metropolis is still more impressive. 
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Jun 2, 2020 16:57
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sean10mm posted:Not sure why people feel the need to shitpost here. The guy started a perfectly benign topic and people just had to be assholes about it, rather than just move on because it's about a movie series they don't care about. The basic premise of the thread is that a lot of the movies suck - hence the need to curate them. And, when you sincerely and thoughtfully begin that process, you immediately run into troubles. Because there isn't really a good, coherent series of films there. As I noted in my post, the MCU films peak with Captain America 1, and basically stop being good at all after that point. That's why it's necessary to branch out into "unofficial" sequels like Chappie, Robocop 2014, and The Guest. You can also add films like Code 8 and Attraction into the mix (an X-Men movie done in the style of Chappie and an interesting Russian version of Thor, respectively). On the other hand, if you are curating them in the sense of "which films are actually narratively relevant to Avengers Endgame and therefore a distillation of the MCU as a 'whole'?", then the answer is: -Thor 1 -Guardians of the Galaxy 1 -Avengers 1-3. ...but those 5 films include several of the worst films in the series, and certainly none of the best.
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Jun 2, 2020 19:10
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the obsessive use of Dutch angles in Thor 1 is probably the best thing in the entire MCU, it's definitely one of the only memorable things, so i disagree with that final statement
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Jun 2, 2020 23:52
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And why not poke fun/criticize this guy's imposed limits to just the semi official Disney studio mandated universe post-2008 or whenever the cut off is Like at least ask why no X-Men or blade? if his SO is interested in SciFi superhero stuff that originated with marvel comics, those series outta be "essential", they're certainly no worse than the iron men!
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Jun 3, 2020 06:26
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I'm super curious how the MCU is gonna handle Blade, lol.
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Jun 3, 2020 06:52
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sean10mm posted:Not sure why people feel the need to shitpost here. The guy started a perfectly benign topic and people just had to be assholes about it, rather than just move on because it's about a movie series they don't care about. This subforum is, at best, incredibly hostile towards Marvel movies. This is probably not the best place on the internet to discuss this subject, especially when places that actually have a semi-large number of Marvel fans exist, and I honestly assumed this was a troll thread at first for that reason and responded accordingly.
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Jun 3, 2020 11:05
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agreed, especially as the word "curating" is in the title as if the MCU was the criterion collection
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Jun 3, 2020 12:10
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sean10mm posted:Literally the first reply to the OP was a zero effort shitpost my dude. We're on page three and it had stopped in favor of more interesting side conversations is the point, until that.
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Jun 3, 2020 16:25
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teagone posted:I'm super curious how the MCU is gonna handle Blade, lol. Blade only fights vampires and it seems the rest of the Marvel Earth is COMPLETELY UNAWARE that they exist... Spider-Man has a vampire in Morpheus, are there others? I'm not too up to speed on every single character's bad guys. Seeing as this is MCU chat and OP has said say whatever, as a casual comic book fan the Avengers films never hit the mark for me, the first 2 Thor films were rear end and I've skipped a lot of the others. GotG was fun, Ragnarok was definitely a change for the better for Thor, Homecoming was decent but tech pimp/surrogate daddy Stark felt like a bit of a poo poo angle. Oh yeah, speaking of. First Iron Man was solid, the second was asssssssssssss and the 3rd was weird because the main bad guys were people who were hot ...which is why it took Tony like 50 suits and Pepper to actually kill them all. I think as mentioned by a few others, Winter Soldier is definitely up there as one of the best of the whole lot. MCU is certainly a land of contrasts.
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Jun 3, 2020 21:59
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teagone posted:I curated a list of MCU films around the time of Endgame's release that encompasses the narrative thrust of the 'Infinity Saga' into a condensed 10-film series. Iron Man, Thor, & Captain America (not my favorites but I consider the backstory essential Avengers Winter Soldier Guardians of the Galaxy Civil War Doctor Strange Thor 3 Blank Panther Infinity War
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Jun 4, 2020 20:54
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For all its faults, The Avengers does do a decent enough job introducing all the major players and plot elements present through the entirety of the Infinity Saga, rendering the first Iron Man/Thor/Cap movies unnecessary if you just want to experience the overarching story. The only exception I'd make to my curated list is adding in Thor as a "prologue" since it introduces the cosmic stuff right away and its post-credit stinger neatly leads directly into The Avengers, while also integrating itself into the Infinity Saga narrative with the tesseract tease.
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Jun 4, 2020 21:28
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All the films introduce characters adequately. When they first appear onscreen, that’s their (re)introduction to the audience. You don’t need to watch Winter Soldier just to find out who the wing guy is in Avengers 2. He’s exactly what he’s presented as: the sidekick who doesn’t really do anything except show that the Avengers have been hiring more people. The entirety of Civil War is pretty much dismissed with a line about how the Avengers broke up ‘like a band.’ There’s frankly nothing - in any of the individual films - that you couldn’t figure out in a matter of seconds by just using your noggin. Like, the movies themselves say “oh, that guy’s just an alien” or “that guy’s a wizard. You’ll have to accept it.” That exposition exists to reassure the audience that they aren’t actually missing anything.
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Jun 4, 2020 23:14
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:This subforum is, at best, incredibly hostile towards Marvel movies. This is probably not the best place on the internet to discuss this subject, especially when places that actually have a semi-large number of Marvel fans exist, and I honestly assumed this was a troll thread at first for that reason and responded accordingly. How dare this loving peon post a thread about movies on the movie subforum
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Jun 7, 2020 17:29
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ProperWhopper posted:I love how this sub forum is so obsessed with huffing it's own farts that daring to discuss incredibly popular mainstream movies on it is considered being a troll thread. I’m glad that you’re standing up for the nerds against the shadowy and muscular intellectual elite, but the confusion over why this thread exists is largely due to the fact that the CD frontpage already has six or seven megathreads about “comic-book” franchises: Star Wars, Ghostbusters, Superman, Godzilla, etc. There’s also a dedicated Comic Book Movie Megathread on top of that. So why make a thread effectively asking which Iron Man movies suck the worst? We already know that it’s any given Avengers movie.
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