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Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017



Bucnasti posted:

I think it was the other way around, they had to import the P90 rounds and make their own blanks, and importing the rounds was a hassle because they’re considered armor piercing and strictly controlled. That’s why they switched back to MP5s for half a season at one point, they couldn’t get the ammo.

i dont think i actually saw any good source on this info tbh- im actually just remembering stuff people were posting about in the SG1 thread in TVIV like 10 years ago. your version sounds just as likely as mine

otoh FN lost that contract so maybe their poo poo was more affordable because of whatever was going on in afganistan and iraq or some poo poo sucking down 9mm. or equally likely some american politican scared ammo buyers into buying more ammo

the point is, the p90 is a cooler choice for a gun for the show even if they kinda lucked into it

also every time i use it in any video game now i get to pretend im in sg1

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banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004


Stanley Tucheetos posted:

I'm pretty sure the show cared 0% about the bullet they were shooting. M16s bounced off the armor in the first episode only for the Jaffa to get wrecked by mp5s. They went to the p90 because it looks cool and spacey.

I mean they straight say in the episode that they switch to P90 because 9mm wont kill an Unas. Early episode wraith also shrugged off P90 shots by the hundreds and died instantly later when they needed to so.

Butternubs
Feb 15, 2012


Why don't all SG teams embark from and return to an off world site? It's super risky dialling random planets from earth. That would solve the black hole episode, a bunch of disease episodes etc.

On that note I want a stargate series about the alpha site or the first off world colony. It's a shame we didn't get to see what the rest of the sgc were doing.

Peragus
Sep 13, 2011



I'm watching the earlier episodes and I always thought Daniel got darker in the later season, but he actually seem pretty consistent. Younger Daniel is maybe just a bit less cynical, sarcastic and of course less swole

In the last season, he tries to kill child Adria but gets stopped by Vala. At the briefing, he states he wishes he had succeed and Sam says she doesn't believe he would be able to go through with it because even if Adria was Ori she was still a child.

In the first season, Daniel and Sam come across Goa'uld babies in a tank. Daniel says they should kill them to prevent them from taking hosts in the future, but Sam says that if they kill them at their most vulnerable they're no better than the Goa'ul. Daniel then straight up shoots the poo poo out of some Goa'ul babies

Guess Sam didn't remember that happened.

Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017



Butternubs posted:

Why don't all SG teams embark from and return to an off world site? It's super risky dialling random planets from earth. That would solve the black hole episode, a bunch of disease episodes etc.

On that note I want a stargate series about the alpha site or the first off world colony. It's a shame we didn't get to see what the rest of the sgc were doing.

When the Gould started flying to earth I guess that mattered less

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

Listen to him, men. He's just crazy enough to do it!


Butternubs posted:

Why don't all SG teams embark from and return to an off world site? It's super risky dialling random planets from earth. That would solve the black hole episode, a bunch of disease episodes etc.

On that note I want a stargate series about the alpha site or the first off world colony. It's a shame we didn't get to see what the rest of the sgc were doing.

I think I remember them saying that was going on, there were alpha and beta sites, but i don’t remember ever actually seeing them.
I mean the real reason is that they had sets for Cheyenne mountain already and making new ones for another planet would cost real dollars.

Also I agree the P90 is super cool, I always used it in Counterstrike, did SG1 predate CS?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

What's a war hero got to do to get some lubrication around here?

Okay legit thought p90s used 9mm, I am now more knowledgeable.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world.

Honestly I thought the P90 zeitgeistiness was from Goldeneye.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

~this is me posting irl~


Bucnasti posted:

Also I agree the P90 is super cool, I always used it in Counterstrike, did SG1 predate CS?

Yes, SG1 came out in 1997, CS came out in 1999.

Son of Sam-I-Am
Feb 12, 2002





Tulip posted:

Honestly I thought the P90 zeitgeistiness was from Goldeneye.

same, one of the best weapons in the game

Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017



even if a modern SG game never happens somebody should really just steal the entirety of the concept and make the gate a fuckin square and call it a day

Optimus Prime Rib
Jun 3, 2007
fighting to keep your steaks free


Grimey Drawer

The best moment on SG1, without question, is Dan Castallaneta meeting Teal'c.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

red bird

Statutory Ape posted:

even if a modern SG game never happens somebody should really just steal the entirety of the concept and make the gate a fuckin square and call it a day

Every Stargate video game has mind of collapsed after funding magically disappears after they either drop a ton of concept art or a teaser trailer for it. The closest you’re gonna get is the Stargate props pack for Gary’s Mod.

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

Listen to him, men. He's just crazy enough to do it!


nine-gear crow posted:

Every Stargate video game has mind of collapsed after funding magically disappears after they either drop a ton of concept art or a teaser trailer for it. The closest you’re gonna get is the Stargate props pack for Gary’s Mod.

There was a SG1 game at E3 about 10 years ago, squad based 3rd person shooter with story missions, looked super fun and true to the series and then it got canceled right afterwards.

Apparently MGM was a bitch to work with for licensors, and when Sony bought them they refused to renew any existing licenses, which is what killed the tabletop RPG.

Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017



im just kind of surprised that i havent seen a game w a similar concept is all.

i guess i should actually just play xcom 2 finally

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oh but seriously I
Sep 26, 2019

Do you ever wonder if there are other planets out there
(source)

There was a 2D era run & gun Stargate game. I think it was based on the movie and was really loving hard

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