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Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Can't you remember that time we did the Street Fighter comic instead

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Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Here's the insane manifesto written in the first edition:

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If there's something hard to do in this country, it is to be a comic book artist.

The local publishers sit on their lazy asses and only care to bring American comics. Unaware of what the readers want, they give money to the gringos and kill the dreams of millions of Brazilian artists who, without a place to publish, go wherever their hunger sends them: After money and food.

But every now and then we get a comic book of our own.

And so is this. This comic book was made for the purpose of riding on the success of the MEGAMAN animated series, of course!

The merits of this comic book can be seen from its very stylistic choices: This is the first 100% Brazilian manga that isn't copying Japanese stories; It's the first manga ever made by a woman; It's my first official job as a writer; it's the first to use computer-assisted coloring.

The plot goes like this: I took a look at the animated series and completely ignored the story, because it's so bad! So, this comic has NOTHING TO DO with the tv show, written with the sole purpose of selling toys. And neither does this comic resemble the "plots" of the games, because a videogame cartridge can never tell a proper story: It just strings you along, so you can move that mouse pointer across the screen and get an RSI (???). I'd rather be different and (some insanely old idiom (I don't even know the literal meaning of this (Googling))) be annoying on purpose!

Who am I? I'm not one of those people who writecomic books just to make a few bucks and then be quickly forgotten. I plan to follow an entire plot arc. And I'm not writing this for my friends, nor do I suck Kamen Rider (??????????????). That would be a gross incompetence from my part...

The team and I are doing the best possible job we can. The story is good, within what is reasonable to expect from a comic book, the artwork is also cool and I even ask for your help with the screenwriting! When was the last time a Brazilian writer asked you what it is you want to read?

So in order to write this comic I'm counting on you. Send your critiques, give me your opinion, but do be careful with what you're asking! I'm not gonna accept adaptations from the TV show or alternative timelines from the cartridge "plots". Be creative!

This comic is yours, the writing is yours, not mine. My team and I are just doing our job. Do yours: Buy the magazine, tell your friends to do the same and send us your suggestions.

We need your support. Let's see what's gonna happen.

Josť Roberto Pereira

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


I don't understand the line of thought that sucking Kamen Rider is proof of someone's gross incompetence as a writer.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


It says he worked on the licensing/translation of over 100 porn magazines as well as a bunch of adult games and hentai magazines.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


I. M. Gei posted:

I love how everybody itt is asking why Mega Man looks so hosed up but loving nobody is asking why Roll is butt rear end neckid on the cover

It's Brazil, everything in this Country had to have some degree of nudity in the 90's, sadly.


Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:

The second manifesto is great as well, should Roll get knocked up??? We might as well my young black one?!?? And then they diss Apple McIntosh 8)

I missed that gem. Roll, pregnant? Everything is possible!

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


So if you're wondering about why this thing is drawn like garbage, in the 90's there was a craze about drawing manga here. I think it's safe to say the biggest influence was Masami Kurumada (Saint Seiya) who is not exactly good at drawing faces.



Nevertheless J-stuff were absolutely huge here and 80's manga were a big influence, so there were swarms of "how to draw manga" magazines trying to teach you how to poorly emulate the 80's without teaching you the fundamentals.



"How to draw Manga - Hot babes"

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Friendly reminder that 5 years before this comic was published, Yusuke Murata at 12 was doing better artwork for the official games.



I. M. Gei posted:

You say that like itís a bad thing.

I'm prudish.

Elentor fucked around with this message at 12:04 on May 21, 2020

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


It was through one of those "design a boss" contests and the winning concept would get implemented in the game. He won two years in a row, for Dust Man and Air Man.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


That manifesto is somehow even worse, and he also for some reason attacks Kamen Rider again.

Can someone spare me the pain and do the translation this time.

Edit: Seriously it's embarrassing that someone wrote that.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Sjs00 posted:

I cannot believe that someone who actually worked on this project popped out of the woodwork of GBS to say hello.

... actually I can

I once dated a girl and mid relationship we found out we hated each other's guts online. Turns out Brazil is really small.

The full story is considerably more embarrassing and involves scanlation groups, but for what is worth our reaction to finding out each other's nicks was just laughing about it.

Elentor fucked around with this message at 02:42 on May 22, 2020

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


That blackman thing is... insane. Like, I don't think the picture is doctored, but I'm pretty sure Kamen Rider Black was cast here with the original name, and Kamen Rider Black RX also kept the same title.

Here are the openings - Notice they say Kamen Rider Black and Kamen Rider Black RX in English (well the RX is pronounced in Portuguese, but you get the idea):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhqdhWcoZTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeec7NJ7nQc

The video description does mention that it was licensed both as Kamen Rider Black and Blackman. I wonder if it was licensed as Blackman to some other TV channel or state and I never got to see that weirdness here in Rio.

I remember seeing the toys for sale and really wanting them, but I also remember seeing stuff under different name and assuming they were fakes. So maybe those memories are from seeing the Blackman toys and assuming they were pirated.

Elentor fucked around with this message at 15:39 on May 22, 2020

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


TheParadigm posted:

The last episode (51 - Gorgom's Last Day) was never shown.

Also by the way this was A THING.

Apparently buying the last episode cost extra. So what the networks did was simply rerun as much as they could, often stopping at random parts of the show (like halfway, or a third of the way, and so on) in the hopes that no one would notice they were doing that because they didn't have the finale and were just milking for fun.

That happened with most shows. The main exception was Saint Seiya because I think if they didn't air the last episode of the sanctuary arc, people here would actually riot.

It cannot be overstated how much Brazilians like Saint Seiya.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


The latest manifesto is an ode to capitalism

Like he's really proud of it.

TLDR:

"HOW IS IT that we can pull off this amazing comic?"

"Simple! Money! All you need is money. We got our funds and then we don't pay jack poo poo to anyone and have ridiculous profit margins! Be sure to copyright your character or people will pirate it* and you're hosed haha also look for the cheapest of everything."

*lol

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

'We' as in Brazil, or 'we' as in there was a GBS thread on some bizarre Street Fighter comic?

We as in Brazil. There was some... JP? American? Some comic we licensed and translated but halfway through the original comic died out and then... we just continued publishing it. As in we pretended nothing happened and made more of it on our own.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


I hate this comic so much.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


EasilyConfused posted:

If we didn't have someone in this thread that was involved in the translation, I'd swear the dialogue was fake.

It seems very in line with something a Brazilian would write. After the dictatorship our cultural paradigm shifted away from metaphors - which were the closest we had to an anti-censorship tool, towards being as literal and direct as possible, connecting everything to the government and public figures.

To make matters worse, before the Internet kinda threw off the status quo a bit, our cultural cornerstones were utterly dominated by a really tiny handful of people. Imagine if Elvis was not only still alive, but still the biggest sensation in pop culture, and forcefully kept that way by the media, along with, I dunno, maybe a dozen other names across decades. I have so many about this subject but I've written enough about it in the mestizone thread, I'll leave it be.

In any case, this comic is better understood under the light of pornochanchada. Due to a mix of heavy political censorship and the American movie industry being overwhelming, most movies made here were sex comedies, sometimes featuring famous TV stars naked as a means to attract a bigger audience. There's a certain irony in that these movies were allowed under a strict censorship policy, but they basically avoided as much as possible to contain any politically subversive material.

Cue the 90's, where older people like this comic's writer are still heavily influenced by pornochanchadas, but also finally get to talk about politics as much as they want to. Hence you get the cultural scenario where you see Roll constantly naked and a Megaman villain named after Brazilian politicians.

As a random trivia, Mike Patton is a real big fan of pornochanchadas.

Elentor fucked around with this message at 03:12 on May 24, 2020

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Thank you for your kind words folks.

AHH F/UGH posted:

I'm just imagining some Brazilian guy who after finishing work at Pizza da Mestre and making trash fire pizza abominations all day comes home to his cinder block favela and really knuckles down to get that nipple shading right

For what is worth it's Mestre da Pizza and it simply means

"Pizza Master"

Edit: Here's the tattoo master:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfJP4a1lJ_E

For real the things they're saying are basically bragging about just how good it is.

Elentor fucked around with this message at 19:03 on May 23, 2020

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Akratic Method posted:


Can you link the thread? I would be interested in reading these words.

They are longer and rantier than the stuff that I usually write by a lot, but I'm referring to this post and the one right after. Again, warning, these are very ranty and not the kind of tone I'd post on GBS or other forums.

Unrelated to it, if you want something lighter, and to get some idea of how hard translating pt-br can be, here's a palate cleanser:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/s...4#post498647515
That's a project we think will take us 5-7 years but I particularly enjoyed the challenges that translating that specific song poses and decided to post about it.

Elentor fucked around with this message at 03:38 on May 24, 2020

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


In typical Brazilian fashion, we don't get to see the entire series.

Post Issue 4!!

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


owlhawk911 posted:

jesus h christ did they really have to do little tee-hee panty shots of the beaten/kidnapped kids? and have them naked in every panel after that? and have prison guards leering and calling them hotties? i knew anime was derelict as hell but this uncut brazilian poo poo kicks it up a notch


you're not wrong but it's still interesting to see wtf they were up to down there/back then and apparently wild shifts in tone between sexualized child body modification/murder and robo-race hijinks full of one-liners is part of that

Sigh. Anyways, here we go.

In the early 00s all the way back to... I don't know. As far as I'm aware, since forever, there was a strong culture of age gap here. Yes, I'm pretty sure you might be thinking "my Country was the same", but consider that one of most popular songs of 1996 is an R&B song about how a 24yo is in love with a 12yo, calling her a muse and so on. The song is called "Our dream" and plays it as romantically and unironically as possible.

Did I mention Mike Patton before? Oh. Yes. He has a song called Caralho Voador (flying dick) which is an en passant reference to an 80's movie about a father that pimps out his (underage) daughters.

There were dance clubs for young people called matinÍs here. Here's something that creeped the hell out of me when I was ~12: These places were teeming with 17yos because they were still legally able to do whatever with essentially no age restriction, and 18+ people called papa-anjos ("Angel Eaters") because of the legal age of consent being 14. This is the kind of poo poo I got constantly:

Angel Eater: Wanna do it?
Me: No.
Angel Eater: But... it's legal. - Followed by a confused face.

Also the samba school parade is essentially a long event of seeing nudity either on the TV or in the streets (the latter seems to have gone down lately). Including during hours where kids would be awake.


All of this is the account from the PoV of someone who felt uncomfortable with these things, and like I said, I'm prudish. For these things to be culturally accepted they had to be normalized to some extent, so other Brazilians will likely give you a different opinion or think it was not so bad.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Tunicate posted:

so what's the rant for chapter 4 say?

"Many people complain that this looks like poo poo compared to american comics. Well of course it does! We have like 5 people. Did you know there's like over 100 people working on each Wolverine issue? We may not be Battle Angel Alita but we are as good as those other latin american countries"

This is pretty much the entirety of it except he used way more words.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


punk rebel ecks posted:

A woman made this manga?

no

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


The chapters don't resemble each other in any meaningful way other than they all share the trait that they're stupid.

I can't imagine following this in real time. Like you buy a new edition and everything shifts. The art is different, the tone is different. I guess the sex jokes remain.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Probably the novelty of it being Megaman-related. Megaman was popular here. Not as popular as Sonic or Street Fighter, but still pretty popular.

Also it being a local production probably earned it enough novelty points for people to stick with it for a few editions.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


I don't think there's any but I don't follow it.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


If we are all being truthful, though, the only thing about the 90's in Brazil that really mattered was Saint Seiya.

Everything else was some sort of existential filler.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


The pencil-colored art is much more appealing to me than the "digital" coloring they weirdly flexed about in the first issue that was just the paint bucket tool.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


What if we make our custom megaman comic

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Once you kill Pusher Man and Shover Man you get their weapon, which pushes the enemy towards the nearest set of stairs.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Extra Large Marge posted:

I'd like to keep Brazil at the heart of the comic, so the plot would involve Mega Man traveling back in time to sabotage the Wright Brothers so Alberto Santos-Dumont would have an undisputed "first in flight" claim.

Sigh



Siiiiiigh.

I'll see if I can make something.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Phlegmish posted:

Sounds a lot like Italy, where you had a rash of mildly pornographic sex comedies during the same decades.

If I recall correctly it was partially inspired by Italy, yes, then grew out to be its own separate movement. But they are definitely connected.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Miss posted:

followup question, why don't none of the blokes also get nipple tubes

Because that wouldn't be erotic enough and it would cause the readers from the dimension in which their universe is contained to stop following the story, and thus reality as they know would cease to exist abruptly.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Extra Large Marge posted:

I'd like to keep Brazil at the heart of the comic, so the plot would involve Mega Man traveling back in time to sabotage the Wright Brothers so Alberto Santos-Dumont would have an undisputed "first in flight" claim.

Elentor fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jul 16, 2020

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Das Boo posted:

It was a slow day at work because LA broke.

Today, on Meggerman!



Okay, now someone else go.

I see that you did the male version of the camel toe, whatever the name for that is.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Applewhite posted:

How is anyone supposed to follow this?

It's so good ;_;

Yeah I had some ideas but the thought of following it is like, no.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


I can't believe you people are doing a pornochanchada of Megaman.

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Elentor
Dec 14, 2004


Sailor Cat posted:



Just a reminder that I am literally taking cell phone pictures of hand drawn comics done on paper, so nobody should be embarrassed to contribute

Edit: v v v v Everyone stop making me look bad!

Minha rosa bonita is My pretty rose for the uninitiated.

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