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 Well! We sure picked the right node to jump to! Seems like one of these answers leads to a suicide and the other leads to something amazing so there's clearly only one right answer- Akane (edit) gently caress. Update on the previous page, and it's GOOD.
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Someone had to emptyquote this, might as well be me
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May 26, 2020 09:48
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I'm tempted to say that MILK would be the X-Pass for Sigma Klim, RED for Diana and BLUE for Phi to match their hair colors because that's all that makes sense at that point.
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May 26, 2020 10:20
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   I should simply go here and play this myself, shouldn't I? This is going to be torture at LP speed. (DKII you're doing Good Work here this is absolutely not a criticism of your Let's Play) Bifauxnen posted:Someone had to emptyquote this, might as well be me What's this a reference to? Beyond Akane almost dying in an incinerator?
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May 26, 2020 10:25
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Quoth Wikipedia:quote:A Code 3 Response in the United States is used to describe a mode of response for an emergency vehicle responding to a call. It is commonly used to mean "use lights and siren". I'd also like to point out that, despite Akane's attitude here, she personally got Junpei killed several times over a year ago, along with several other people. Some of those people even stayed dead. Don't buy her innocent act, she's very goal-oriented. She believes that Carlos would kill whoever he has to because she was already thinking about it. This is all pointless though, since we all know who really killed Junpei. The real mystery is how the dog pulled it off.
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May 26, 2020 10:56
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Nidoking posted:I'm tempted to say that MILK would be the X-Pass for Sigma Klim, RED for Diana and BLUE for Phi to match their hair colors because that's all that makes sense at that point. MILK is definitely Sigma, from MILKEVOLI, Luna's password in VLR. The other two don't appear to make much sense. Omobono posted:What's this a reference to? Beyond Akane almost dying in an incinerator? Yes. She did, in fact, almost bake as a child.
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May 26, 2020 11:16
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MarquiseMindfang posted:Yes. She did, in fact, almost bake as a child. See, for a while you wonder what happened to Akane with the 'timid' appearance, and then she drops a line like that, and it reminds you she's still the (retired) mastermind we know and love.
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May 26, 2020 11:56
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Coming in blind, my first guess is Gab. Unfortunately, he's not valid, but i highly doubt it's either Carlos or Akane either...
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May 26, 2020 12:04
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See, that's where you're all wrong. Sure, Gab is the mastermind behind Junpei's death, but how could he make such smooth-looking cuts with his old dog arthritis? No, he had an accomplice. There are two possible weapons the accomplice could have used: the Fire-axe or the Chainsaw. The cuts look too smooth for a chainsaw, so it's gotta be the axe. Now given that Akane can barely hold a chainsaw, while Carlos is busting out fancy axe moves with his firefighter experience, there's only one possible culprit. TL;DR Gab came up with the plan, but Carlos is the one who did it.
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May 26, 2020 12:15
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Nobody ever takes Gab seriously. And that's the fatal flaw of everyone here. Especially you Akane.
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May 26, 2020 12:38
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Honestly though, while I'm not a fan of the idea that "Zero" and "Junpei" are not an acceptable answer here, I understand why in the scheme of things. When I first played it did seem plausible that Junpei could have sacrificed himself/been sacrificed in a previous "round" of which they have no knowledge, and then he was "repurposed" for this game. But they're obviously not thinking straight here, so I get it, they don't want to sit down and work out plausible scenarios where they're both innocent.
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May 26, 2020 13:32
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I can see how Junpei could have killed himself, but two mysteries remain: 1) Once he had cut off his left arm, what would he have cut his right arm off with? (hat tip to Blackadder) 2) Having dismembered himself, how would he then gather the pieces and lock them in cupboards and boxes? Surely, some sort of elaborate Rube Goldberg device, but then, what became of the device?
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May 26, 2020 13:59
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MarquiseMindfang posted:Honestly though, while I'm not a fan of the idea that "Zero" and "Junpei" are not an acceptable answer here, I understand why in the scheme of things. When I first played it did seem plausible that Junpei could have sacrificed himself/been sacrificed in a previous "round" of which they have no knowledge, and then he was "repurposed" for this game. But they're obviously not thinking straight here, so I get it, they don't want to sit down and work out plausible scenarios where they're both innocent. Though it's possible that this is a soft plot-lock a'la the VLR Nineth Lion, where there's an actual answer that you can give to trigger Carlos' memory and have him convince Akane...but if so, the answer is clearly not an obvious one that you could wild-rear end guess into.
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May 26, 2020 14:19
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Nidoking posted:2) Having dismembered himself, how would he then gather the pieces and lock them in cupboards and boxes? Surely, some sort of elaborate Rube Goldberg device, but then, what became of the device? I mean unless you're suggesting Carlos or Akane killed Junpei and then set up this trial for their future amnesiac selves to find, there's obviously some physically present agent setting all this stuff up while everyone's out. At the very least someone has to lug the unconscious people around and lock doors. This would be Zero who is suspected to be among us, re: the reason the messages are prerecorded.
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May 26, 2020 14:27
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MarquiseMindfang posted:I mean unless you're suggesting Carlos or Akane killed Junpei and then set up this trial for their future amnesiac selves to find, there's obviously some physically present agent setting all this stuff up while everyone's out. At the very least someone has to lug the unconscious people around and lock doors. This would be Zero who is suspected to be among us, re: the reason the messages are prerecorded. All I'm saying is that any schlub can cut themself into pieces, but it takes some serious agility to lock those pieces in separate cabinets afterward.
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May 26, 2020 14:37
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Nidoking posted:All I'm saying is that any schlub can cut themself into pieces, but it takes some serious agility to lock those pieces in separate cabinets afterward. I bet one of our previous Zeros could do it. Somehow.
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May 26, 2020 14:45
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Nidoking posted:2) Having dismembered himself, how would he then gather the pieces and lock them in cupboards and boxes? Surely, some sort of elaborate Rube Goldberg device, but then, what became of the device? Simple, you make the Rube Goldberg device such that it can dismantle itself!
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May 26, 2020 15:03
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MarquiseMindfang posted:Honestly though, while I'm not a fan of the idea that "Zero" and "Junpei" are not an acceptable answer here, I understand why in the scheme of things. When I first played it did seem plausible that Junpei could have sacrificed himself/been sacrificed in a previous "round" of which they have no knowledge, and then he was "repurposed" for this game. But they're obviously not thinking straight here, so I get it, they don't want to sit down and work out plausible scenarios where they're both innocent. Trying Zero gives an error message of "DO NOT KNOW IDENTITY". Once we find out who is Zero II I think it'd be worth a try to come back here and try it out. I don't think it'll work, but who knows. MarquiseMindfang posted:I bet one of our previous Zeros could do it. Somehow. Dr. Klim could give Luna a direct order. No clue on how Akane would go at it.
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May 26, 2020 15:13
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Omobono posted:Trying Zero gives an error message of "DO NOT KNOW IDENTITY". Once we find out who is Zero II I think it'd be worth a try to come back here and try it out. Yeah, it probably won't work. Remember the flow chart map that we saw earlier? There were only two paths available for this fragment and I'm pretty sure those match up with choosing either Akane or Carlos. Otherwise, there would be another path to pick.
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May 26, 2020 15:18
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No, clearly the real killer is the US health insurance system. If it didn’t exist or Maria was otherwise able to get treatment Carlos wouldn’t be here and Junpei would be fine.
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May 26, 2020 15:22
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AweStriker posted:No, clearly the real killer is the US health insurance system. If it didn’t exist or Maria was otherwise able to get treatment Carlos wouldn’t be here and Junpei would be fine. 
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May 26, 2020 15:25
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SimplyUnknown1 posted:Yeah, it probably won't work. Remember the flow chart map that we saw earlier? There were only two paths available for this fragment and I'm pretty sure those match up with choosing either Akane or Carlos. Otherwise, there would be another path to pick. Does that really matter though? Both 999 and VLR had secret parts of the flowchart you couldn't see until you reached them, it's possible for this game to do the same with these Zero questions.
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May 26, 2020 15:33
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SimplyUnknown1 posted:Yeah, it probably won't work. Remember the flow chart map that we saw earlier? There were only two paths available for this fragment and I'm pretty sure those match up with choosing either Akane or Carlos. Otherwise, there would be another path to pick. I am really not buying this, this game is capable of making a third branch appear from nowhere. But at the moment, probably only two names.
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May 26, 2020 15:34
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I mean the answer is obviously the Funyarinpa did it. I have no idea whether inputting that gives a joke response or not, I never really tried joke answers when I played.
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May 26, 2020 15:50
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"Capitalism" ...I don't know, I'm very tired
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Zack Ater posted:I have no idea whether inputting that gives a joke response or not, I never really tried joke answers when I played.
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May 26, 2020 16:24
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Oh man this update delivered and then some. Every time they talked about the "fake" body appendages I was just  the whole way through cause Uchikoshi truly is a dick.So on one hand, Carlos seems like a cool dude and I like him already. On the other hand, Akane is a literal crazy person and unfortunately that makes me feel like it's even less likely for her to have done something like kill the only person she cares about in this whole place. So sorry Carlos, it's time to do the honorable thing and take one for the team. 
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MagusofStars posted:I'm wondering what the game does if you put in a total joke answer. Does it dump a "Not likely" as it did with Q-team or just refuse to accept the answer at all? Anything I tried other than those listed and some spoiler options just results in "Error". But I'll try out other suggestions and post them if they result in anything. There are cases where I'll hide alternatives until we discover the right information. But as you've guessed, the question here is really about "what action should Carlos take", anyway. The poll was still close but I had to close it to start recording. Here are your results:  Glad you all enjoyed the update, it was getting very heavy on animated GIFs but I felt they were necessary. I actually have a full, continuous video recorded for that whole scene after the puzzle room, but it's 10 minutes of lossless encoding so came out at 22.6 GB. I'll try and look into compressing/uploading it later today. DKII fucked around with this message at 19:13 on May 26, 2020 |
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May 26, 2020 19:05
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For a game that clearly had to be elaborately planned ages in advance, the real mystery is how after someone killed Junpei, they were able to properly construct and strategically place his limbs and torso everywhere formatted to be part of this escape room puzzle. They had to have planned that in advance, right? How did they decide "right, well, the circumstances are like this, time to kill one of the participants and carve them up into part of the puzzle"?
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Jadecore posted:For a game that clearly had to be elaborately planned ages in advance, the real mystery is how after someone killed Junpei, they were able to properly construct and strategically place his limbs and torso everywhere formatted to be part of this escape room puzzle. They had to have planned that in advance, right? How did they decide "right, well, the circumstances are like this, time to kill one of the participants and carve them up into part of the puzzle"? This series is pretty cavalier with the idea of cause-and-effect as it is, it's entirely possibly whoever setup the puzzle already knew that Junpei would be dead by this point and arranged the puzzle pieces accordingly.
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Part 10: Carlos's Decision Close race this time. Remember we can always replay this fragment to go down the other path next!  Obviously it must be Carlos himself.  I was joking around last time but the game really earns its M/17+-rating here. Music: Glacial Solitude   Akane... She'd never do something like that to Junpei!Flashback to earlier in the Pantry.   Yes. He's very important to me. If that's the case, then I'm... I'm the only one who could've killed him... Or maybe it was some kind of parasite... Or I'm under hypnosis...All classic science fiction tropes.  Regardless of the reason, I was the...  Quiet footsteps, then the chainsaw revs again.  My body moves against my will! I might kill you next! Carlos's words shock the crazy eyes out of Akane. If that's how it is, then--! And now Carlos has the crazy eyes. Ah, Carlos, no! A shout from Carlos, and the music goes silent.   There's the sound of a body dropping here.  Akane's protests seem a little odd given what she was about to do to him herself. I guess she really has snapped out of it. Music: Confession 2nd Mix  There are some choking noises out of Carlos here.   Carlos struggling to breathe. Flashback time!  Mom... Dad...   You couldn't have...killed Junpei... And I... I...  Did that go how everyone thought it would? We have the same 16 options we didn't take last time. Plus the option to replay the Pantry decision, with a different result. So another 17-option poll here. Select the story fragment.
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May 26, 2020 21:08
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Carlos is a good lad.
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May 26, 2020 21:23
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Super Jay Mann posted:That's a looooooot of blood. Nah, that couldn't have been more than 5.5 liters, tops. 
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DKII posted:Right, so the poster itself. Ingredients are power, water, and a mold - we've got one of those already. Pour the water into the mold, add the powder, and throw it in the strange machine, and voila! Instant gelatin. Typo. DKII posted:I know JUMP is for Junpei. RED is probably Diana for her hair/outfit. Don't remember if BLUE is Sigma and MILK is Phi or the other way around. They're always in the same order as the names were announced right beforehand, so BLUE is Diana and RED is Phi. You can also tell from the X-Pass list to the right of the X-Door in the Lounge (seen during the following cutscenes but you didn't get a clear screenshot). The reasons why could be considered mild spoilers so I'll point them out when we get to those D-team fragments.
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whitehelm posted:Typo. Typo fixed, thanks! I looked and the scoreboard only shows the corner listing Junpei's name as among the dead - we don't get to see the whole thing in that scene. But it also matches the order on the Status screen so I updated the note to reference that instead. I uploaded the video for Part 9, including me messing around in the Status screen - the encoding quality probably isn't great but you get full audio and video. Here is the link. Let me know if you want more videos like that - it wasn't too hard to make once I figured out how. DKII fucked around with this message at 22:37 on May 26, 2020 |
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May 26, 2020 22:34
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haha holy poo poo
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DKII posted:Right, so the poster itself. Ingredients are power, water, and a mold - we've got one of those already. Pour the water into the mold, add the powder, and throw it in the strange machine, and voila! Instant gelatin.  Doth thou desire the gelatin?EDIT: drat me and my time-consuming need to get the quote exactly right, the post is already edited 
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