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On Covenant 12, I finally got my first win with Hellhorned as the main faction: Getting two 25/75 Titan Sentries early, then getting the event to make a unit 1 capacity and applying it to one of the Sentries, then duplicating that unit twice more was huge. The other huge play was getting Holdover on a 0 cost Drain, since this protected me from the aforementioned Emberdrain Sweep Jerk Birds.
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I have yet to get a Stygian win 
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Jun 1, 2020 04:04
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Ciaphas posted:I have yet to get a Stygian win Yeah they took the longest for me too. I finally got some by using some of the beefier Hellhorned monsters to block early then transitioning hard to that Shark guy who gives Frostbite as retaliation. Frostbite absolutely wrecks bosses.
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Jun 1, 2020 04:08
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Ciaphas posted:I have yet to get a Stygian win Stack spell weakness and one shot the bosses with any huge damage spell.
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Jun 1, 2020 04:41
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the boss that always fucks me is the sweeping lifesteal guy because he can just mow through a floor without taking damage; the stealth guy at least can only murder one person at a time and can be hit by spells and spike damage and poo poo
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Jun 1, 2020 06:04
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 Yeah, duplicating Dante is, uh... pretty good. (I gave him a Strengthstone and a Largestone before duplicating him twice, because  )Edit: 7 turn boss rush. 
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Jun 1, 2020 06:23
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TastyLemonDrops posted:Stack spell weakness and one shot the bosses with any huge damage spell. I'll try again tomorrow. Tonight I got Umbra unlocked and got a win on my very first run with Hellhorned as allies. Ended up being based around a Demon Fiend and architect Penumbra, making GBS threads out Morsels (of course), and a duplicated Endless/Holdover... Fledgling Imp  As it turns out, when you have the "summon effects happen twice" and "-2 to unit summon costs" artifacts, those imps're effectively a totally free stacking +12 atk to the whole floor. put em at the front, you get them right back, repeat, oh and by the way there's probably 3 or 4 Morsels getting that too so uh
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Jun 1, 2020 07:04
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PMush Perfect posted:
 Just got this now! Dante with 8 multi attacks, and a lucky channelsong drew my multistrike plant lady. Razorsharp Edge (+8 attack, -2 health) is so much better than I thought. EDIT: It's really amazing how good all 3 Waxed champions are, and how trash all 3 Hellborne champions are... Dante was setting my guy up with +60/80 max hp everytime, not including my endless burnout 1 bombs. TastyLemonDrops fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Jun 1, 2020 |
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Jun 1, 2020 07:52
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Stygian is easy. Get the 3 cost card with offering that does like 5 dmg to everyone and 10 frostbyte. Put some gems into it and start duplicating it. With teethy mode on spells being less expensive and the right artifacts you can kill the final boss with a 650 dmg frostbyte proc just like me. monstertrain://runresult/9aabe2f8-cb56-4473-9301-9a42eb682b7e Buller fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Jun 1, 2020 |
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Jun 1, 2020 09:57
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I also like the 5x damage spell, make it beefy through upgrades and watch it do like 200+ per hit.
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Jun 1, 2020 10:09
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Yeah icicles or whatever (1dmg 5x) is the sleeper winner of Stygian. You don’t need any combos, just slap in +10dmg upgrades and it turns into a ridiculous utility damage spell.
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Jun 1, 2020 11:31
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TastyLemonDrops posted:EDIT: It's really amazing how good all 3 Waxed champions are, and how trash all 3 Hellborne champions are... Dante was setting my guy up with +60/80 max hp everytime, not including my endless burnout 1 bombs. If you want trash, take long hard look at the umbra champion. He is substantially worse than most of the other umbra fatties. Even with morsels his is SO SLOW. And my vote to worst enemy is the birds that give emberdrain on attack. They have a chunk of HP and emberdrain really hurts when you get 2 per floor right from the start. By far the worst feeling part of the game.
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Jun 1, 2020 11:44
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Jinx posted:If you want trash, take long hard look at the umbra champion. He is substantially worse than most of the other umbra fatties. Even with morsels his is SO SLOW. The Umbra Champ has his Monstrous upgrade path which gives you a beefy trample monster to put on the bottom floor while you buff up a Gorger for the boss. Also the summoner variant becomes completely free in terms of capacity and lets you throw down a stupid number of morsels per turn. Umbra Champ is probably the second best Champ in the game after the Melting Champ who's on another level. Then you have the Awoken, then Stygian then Hellhorned.
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Jun 1, 2020 14:09
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I've been playing a couple of Umbra runs, and I also think the Glutton variant sucks poo poo. Way too slow to get going and doesn't even get any stat upgrades for leveling up - you're stuck with a 15/15 you have to stick in front to Gorge that only adds a small tick of health per feeding, and worse still, he takes three spaces which means less space for the morsels. The Architect variant, though, I think is really really amazing. The last upgrade gives you an effective +1 space just for deploying him - he's a turn 1 Space Prism that comes with a 80/25, and that's nuts.
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Jun 1, 2020 14:53
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 You can use Razorsharp Edge (+8 attack, -2 hp) to kill low health enemies.
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Jun 1, 2020 16:23
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TastyLemonDrops posted:
Lmao that's thinking outside the box
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Jun 1, 2020 16:39
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TastyLemonDrops posted:
lol I bet that effectively pierces armor, too
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Jun 1, 2020 16:42
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TastyLemonDrops posted:
 And I thought I was being a 300 IQ galaxybrain when I Torched my own welder imp to get one more Morsel out and armor up on my champion yesterday
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Jun 1, 2020 16:54
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TastyLemonDrops posted:
Holy gently caress I would have never thought to try that. That rules and owns.
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Jun 1, 2020 17:40
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Yeah, pretty much every buff can be cast on enemies and this does not trigger spell block or damage shield. Razorsharp edge is a good example of this (it's very good against Daedalus bombs with damage shield), march forward (+10 armor, move to front) is another example of a buff that can also be useful when cast on an enemy.
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Jun 1, 2020 19:05
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Also the hellhorned +armor and take 5 damage card. The damage applies before the armor, making it an easy snipe for annoying low hp units in the back.
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Jun 1, 2020 19:20
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BobTheJanitor posted:Also the hellhorned +armor and take 5 damage card. The damage applies before the armor, making it an easy snipe for annoying low hp units in the back. Yeah, I've used that one offensively before but I dunno how I didn't look at a card with /-2 on it and think "holy gently caress I can snipe x/1s with this".
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Jun 1, 2020 19:22
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also, this is probably old hat in here by now but i've seen multiple streamers not realize this, you can play ascend/descend on enemies too. you can do that to single out lone weak enemies or split off a 0-attack tank into his own useless group while the people he was tanking for get eaten.
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Jun 1, 2020 19:30
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 This has got to be one of my weirdest wins  Multistriking Morselmasters was my best chance at dealing with the early game hump so I took it. When the dupe event came up I thought "well this run seems doomed anyway let's meme it", little did I know
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Jun 1, 2020 19:31
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Pity there's a 7 units cap in each floor =V
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Jun 1, 2020 20:53
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President Ark posted:also, this is probably old hat in here by now but i've seen multiple streamers not realize this, you can play ascend/descend on enemies too. you can do that to single out lone weak enemies or split off a 0-attack tank into his own useless group while the people he was tanking for get eaten. Also when you ascend/descend enemies they go to the back, which is a good place for an enemy tank.
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Jun 1, 2020 21:19
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I just had a game with the artifact that makes extinguish trigger twice. It split a Legion of Wax into 4 Twins and a Twin into 4 motes. 21 units in one card. I dropped that thing on the bottom floor and the fight was more or less over. Some of the artifacts are insanely strong.
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lagidnam posted:I just had a game with the artifact that makes extinguish trigger twice. It split a Legion of Wax into 4 Twins and a Twin into 4 motes. 21 units in one card. I dropped that thing on the bottom floor and the fight was more or less over. Some of the artifacts are insanely strong. I had the same thing recently on covenant 21. I thought the run was a sure thing. The guys with harvest:gain armour just walked past the legions of wax and killed my pyre. So it does have a weakness. I just beat covenant 22 with 3 wickless barons, a card I've always considered weak. Sometimes what works and what doesn't isn't always straightforward.
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Jun 2, 2020 00:54
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Why did I think that crushing demise required a friendly unit I'm a moron
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Jun 2, 2020 01:12
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Not sure which part of this was more hilarious - the holdover/0-cost Restoration Detonation, the Multistrike 2 Coldcaelia with Cuttlebeard, or Petrified Crucible plus Shard Channeler plus Beefy Thorns Boys. (deeplink)
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Jun 2, 2020 03:36
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Transcendimp is such a fun card. Especially with Endless. Especially when you're playing the Umbra hero Architect path
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Jun 2, 2020 04:58
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I just won on my 4th try. My opening artifact was volatile gauge, which seemed like a bad idea until I recruited 3 Demon Fiends. The run was pretty easy after that.
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Jun 2, 2020 05:13
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praise snecko
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Jun 2, 2020 05:17
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bad metaphors posted:praise snecko Split Anvil + Snecko Gauge is ridiculous. "Ah, I will cast my 3-cost card. Now all my 2s and 1s are free. Praise Snecko."
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Jun 2, 2020 05:47
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I feel like I would be winning more if I stopped grabbing all these terrible cards because I haven't mastered them yet.
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Jun 2, 2020 06:15
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Two doublestacked stealth spells and seraph never even got to see what killed him. That was pretty fun Also, that event with the two pyre X spells is super trash, or am I missing something?
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They're quite bad but I do take them if I'm already low on Pyre health. (and since higher covs deal damage to your pyre from the start...) At worst they're playable at 0 mana and consume themselves
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Awokened/Stygian seems like the most obviously "good" combination. Stygian as a main is tough just because the champ is so hard to consistently keep alive. I'm only on Crucuble 4 but my Stygian win I got the "spells cost x less" path, Volatile Gauge, Tempered Talisman, Improved Firebox, two Wilting Sapwoods, and Restoring Retreat. I basically just shoveled every unit I could onto the bottom floor and used my entire hand every single turn. By the final boss I wasn't even looking at my hand, I was just playing absolutely every card. Just won a run with Umbra as my secondary alliance and holy poo poo I love Morsels. Got a Largestone and Multi-hit on a Crucible Warden, the one that gets damage protection every time it eats a unit. Put a Morselmaster and Morselmaker with it, so it was getting +6 HP/Damage and 4 protection per turn. My big turn strategy was dropping several Excavated Embers, Perils of Production, and the Hell's Banner to get my Pyre up to 11 so I could drop The First Hellpact (+3 to x-costs) onto Shroud Spike (X-cost x2 consume counts) so the Warden would gain 20 shield charges and 60 damage.
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This game rules, I might actually like it better than StS because of how absurdly varied every deck feels, what with the support classes and the custom upgrades. I'm curious what they're planning on adding in the future, I sorta wish there was more boss variety, since even with the variants you're still basically fighting the same guys every run. This is the goofiest run I've had so far, the start gave me x2 Void Bindings and x2 Immortal Trade so I went "emberdrain?? Screw you, emberdrain!!!", went for 0-costs and +energy and clowned on Seraph with a billion shields on Penumbra. And it was hilarious when Pyrewings showed up. Oh noooooooo, what will I dooooo monstertrain://runresult/28463e44-c3ad-49ae-8d15-22a85485f491
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Has anyone got any tips for the "10 cards or less" achievement?
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