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GD_American posted:It's a giant universe and I always thought the Best and Brightest part of Starfleet rang false. Show me the 2nd line ships. Give me a show with washouts and career dead-enders manning an outdated ship in a forgotten sector. That was kind of the original premise, but somehow along the way Seth MacFarlane turned himself into the savior of mankind.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2020 17:03 |
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 07:09 |
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Groke posted:Based on what I've seen of Star Trek, it's also horribly unsafe to the point where no organization at all concerned with health and safety would allow one. Most of the engineering on a starship seems to be setup such that every critical system must continue working or it causes an immediately chain of failure in other systems. Star Fleet engineers have never heard of things like redundancy or isolation and without various systems in constant working order the whole thing will literally explode.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2020 23:48 |
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Cloaking technology seems to actually suck. Anytime someone on a Star Fleet ship *really* needs to come up with a way to detect a cloaked ship they mumble some technobabble and next thing you know a torpedo slams into an cloaked warbird.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2020 17:04 |
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Why does it seem like every other empire in Trek has gigantic gently caress off ships compared to the Federation?
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2020 19:51 |
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In Trek every species considers the other extremely "arrogant". It's something that is repeated throughout every series. Humans and Vulcans consider each other arrogant. Romulans consider humans arrogant. Klingons consider humans arrogant. Cardassians consider humans arrogant even though they're like the most arrogant motherfuckers in the galaxy. Actually maybe they all just think humans are arrogant.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2020 20:16 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:I don't know what you're talking about, pretty much every alien ship is about the same size as the Enterprise because working with an actual size disparity is a more complicated and expensive effect.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2020 21:32 |
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And we know the transporters world NEVER fail during a fire.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2020 18:01 |
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You'd think they would be bigger since they're housing goddamn civies in addition to the Star Fleet crew.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2020 05:14 |
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Every starship is 67% Jeffrey's Tubes.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2020 05:19 |
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Has Trek ever talked about the tech that lets ships fly around the atmosphere of a planet while resisting gravity?
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2020 14:20 |
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In a post-scarcity future where energy and material are basically unlimited why wouldn't you prioritize human comfort and privacy over costs?
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2020 20:21 |
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TNG era phasers. The ergonomics of how you hold them are terrible let alone how the gently caress anyone can aim without sights.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2020 18:54 |
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They supposedly have aim assist. Which is why they work so well and certainly no one simply lazily ducks or shifts slightly to the left during a phaser battle to avoid getting hit.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2020 19:17 |
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The Borg have personal shields that they can adjust to be on the same frequency as the phaser, which prevents it from damaging them. Apparently changing frequencies on a phaser is some kind of hard coded poo poo that requires taking off the cover and adjusting jumper pins or Star Fleet engineers are too stupid to have them randomly change each shots because they only work for a few kills before the Borg adapt. Auto aim: The phaser is so lovely and slow even a middle aged man can easily jump out of the way. If someone replicated a couple of M16's they could probably take over an entire starship.
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2020 04:03 |
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galagazombie posted:The reason for the terrible ergonomics of phasers come TNG is part of the enlightened utopia theme where Starfleet/The Federation doesn't make weapons of war anymore. Roddenberry wanted phasers to not have any visual similarities to weapons, especially guns. The idea was that in the enlightened future Starfleet personnel would not carry around something with no purpose other than committing violence, and instead a multi-purpose tool. Think all the times they use it to heat rocks or weld something shut or as a cutting tool. It's the same philosophy behind the new Enterprise. Sure the Enterprise-D can function as a badass space battleship, but it's also a state of the art scientific research station, and a convention center, and a diplomatic embassy, and a frontier exploration vessel. It's all doublespeak. Star Fleet claims to not be a military organization but it 1000% is. Not only that, but this (totally not a military!) organization is apparently in charge of all politics for the planet. Where is the civilian oversight?!
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2020 16:46 |
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Cerv posted:the federation president is explicitly a non-starfleet role The Federation President is elected by a council made up of representatives from each member planet. He's like the head of the UN. But who is actually in charge of Earth? The POTUS - despite what he may think - is not in charge of each state in the United States.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2020 17:40 |
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Do Star Fleet ships ever drop off the children and other family members before heading to a big battle? Timmy, daddy is very busy preparing for an important meeting at Wolf 359 tomorrow, so just keep yourself busy on the Holodeck today, ok.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2020 17:53 |
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In almost every series, probably all, there are multiple episodes of the crews running into privately owned ships that are out to make a buck, or colonize such and such a planet or explore some galactic phenomenon. What exactly do you think Harry Mudd was doing with all those tribbles?
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2020 19:32 |
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In fact many - perhaps most? - of the human planets in the Federation were colonized before the Federation and Star Fleet even existed!
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2020 19:40 |
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Cerv posted:Cyrano Jones was the guy selling Tribbles. Mudd sold women. gently caress
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2020 19:43 |
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Is Borg tech actually more advanced? Seems like in the show their big advantage is that they have giant ships built with unlimited redundancies and the personnel to maintain/repair them.
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2020 20:29 |
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zoux posted:Startide Rising was the book that got me into sci fi. Too bad about the second trilogy though. I think they've invented about eight different methods of time travel.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2020 18:55 |
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Yet they never go back in time to like win the Dominion war or something.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2020 22:42 |
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W.T. Fits posted:Yeah, because the Federation has a Temporal Prime Directive that says you're not allowed to go back in time and change the past. Goddamnit Jim the Prime Directive isn't a suicide pact!
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2020 02:49 |
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:If anyone is interested in a "what happens to all our infrastructure and nukes if humanity just disappears one day" deep dive, read "The World Without Us". Imagine a thousand Bhopals.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2020 14:34 |
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but...
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2020 16:19 |
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Pretty sure it's not a metal sword. It's literally just a lightsaber that is dark instead of light and made to look like metal.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2020 21:06 |
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Elmnt80 posted:Just pretend I quoted all the posts in this thread about star trek phasers here. Trek forgets alot of things that they invent. I watched the episode of TNG the other day where Barkley gets his brain enhanced by an alien species and he invents a way to boost shield output by 300%, but apparently never bothered to write down how that was done.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2020 03:01 |
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Sucks for the dudes that drew the short straws and have to walk.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2020 14:37 |
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What does the empire have against wheels and tank treads?
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2020 19:43 |
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Foxfire_ posted:Enh, I think it's probably weirder if the death star is just a scaled up version of the gun on an X-wing. Like a real-world nuke isn't just a very big stick of dynamite. It doesn't need to be explained though and it doesn't really matter besides "you need a bunch of secret science to make a death star instead of just a bunch of resources". Little death star gun is still stupid though The US military had tactical nukes though, so why couldn't a small version of the Death Star tech be created?
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2020 21:38 |
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Defiance Industries posted:If the Empire had just listened to Grand Admiral Thrawn and put all the money for the Death Star into TIE Defenders, Luke would be dead and all the aliens would still be slaves, so it's probably a good thing superweapons are very stupid. I can imagine the emperor as a Trump like figure. People we're going to build the laser. It's going to be the most tremendous laser anyone has ever seen. We're going to stop the rebel caravan in it's tracks.
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2020 14:44 |
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Every ship in Star Fleet is lovely engineering - everything needs a containment field or constant monitoring from the computer to not blow the gently caress up.
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# ¿ May 10, 2021 19:38 |
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Your mistake is in assuming Federation engineers would design things to fail gracefully instead of explode violently. Big mistake right there.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2022 16:43 |
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Mulaney Power Move posted:I still don't know what the deal is with the three seashells He doesn't know how to use the three seashells!
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2023 04:50 |
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I liked it when Max Headroom got marooned in the 24th century.
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2023 21:30 |
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 07:09 |
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OMG:quote:In the Star Trek: Strange New Worlds short story Research, Berlinghoff had the foresight to hide blueprints for the time-travel pod prior to his journey, and was able to retrieve them and successfully rebuild it. He then traveled back to the late-20th century, to the home of his ancestor, J. R. Rasmussen. Together, they travel back to 1964, where they relay information about the future to a television writer named Gene Roddenberry. Rasmussen died sometime before 1999 in an auto accident, while driving to an appointment with producers at Paramount Pictures. jfc
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