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frogge
Apr 7, 2006




Subspace communications.

I can suspend disbelief at FTL travel, but for some reason what's essentially a facetime call that has a good connection and also not have any delay or feedback with a caller light years away irks me.

I know WH40K gets around that with psychics. But I just expect interstellar communications basically devolving into text messages or telegrams at best.

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frogge
Apr 7, 2006




While we're on Star Trek's rear end: teleporters.

I get it, it's sci fi tech and teleporters have been a thing in the genre for a long time but why don't they ever just teleport a brick in enemy ships' engines or something and not even bother with phasers? Or just teleport air bubbles directly into the enemy crews.

frogge
Apr 7, 2006




Got me there. Shields blocking teleporters is definitely the rule in a lot of sci fi, not just trek. Still, I'm surprised we don't see more non-conventional use of the tech.

frogge
Apr 7, 2006




Basically what I'm hearing is I need to check out the Stargate tv show.

frogge
Apr 7, 2006




All the action's in R and G anyways. I finally forced myself to read through them and The Martians. I don't think I'd reread but I'm glad I knocked them off the old bucket list.

For garbage tech I offer the urine recycler from water world. Ew.

frogge
Apr 7, 2006




Bloody Pom posted:

I really need to back into reading the Culture novels. Probably in text this time, trying to follow Use of Weapons' chapter layout in audiobook format broke my brain.

Reading it was just as wonky until halfway through when I realized it was two sets of chapters, one going in normal order, the other in reverse until they line up at the end. I might be misremembering but apparently Banks' had kept trying to use that gimmick and it kept getting shut down by publishers until he was a little more popular and was given the greenlight.

frogge
Apr 7, 2006




I realize I'm gonna get flak for it but giant robots with swords and other melee weapons is pretty garbage tech and I've never heard a compelling reason why that tech exists beyond being handwaved away via the rule of cool instead of just "lots of big guns" like seems more practical.

frogge
Apr 7, 2006




CainFortea posted:

Astrogation in Star Wars is dumb and complicated. Basically the more well traveled a route is, the faster you can go because there's more navigation data available so you can go faster. For example, Coruscant to Bespin is 6d14h base time. So if your hyperdrive multiplyer is x1, that's how long it takes you (assuming nothing goes wrong). However Coruscant to Alderaan is 16h, and Alderaan to Bespin is 8h for a total of 1d.

Double all those times for an ISD cause their multiplier is 2. Also the longest trip I can find is Lianna to Dagobah, which is 31d15h. gthe book also references that the Millenium Falcon could go across the galaxy in a straight line in 4 months. The falcon's multiplier is .5, so that's 16 months for an ISD. And that's impossible anyway because you can't just go across in a straight line.

Also ISDs would often escort freighters and poo poo. Also if they do get a damaged hyperdrive their backup drive is a x8. So yea an ISD could very well be gone for years at a time.

Where you getting those numbers from? One of the tabletop games or the star wars technical manual or something?

frogge
Apr 7, 2006




I think imperial star destroyers function the same way the colonial marines big ship operates in the Aliens franchise- rapid response on a wide frontier where help might not come for months or years. Although the crews and fighting complements of both are hilariously different. ISD- 37K, USCM transport ship- 90 to 2,000.

Edit: I think in a way that's realistic for exerting power over a really wide area. The garbage tech is that like the killbots in Futurama you defeat them by sending wave after wave of men against them.

frogge fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Apr 8, 2021

frogge
Apr 7, 2006




Forget if it's been said already but that whole dealio with personal shields vs lasers in Dune being instant atomic explosions. Like hell no one wouldn't take advantage of that. It's in-universe consistent at least.

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frogge
Apr 7, 2006




Nebakenezzer posted:

This is low hanging fruit as it is from the Alien series, but:

In Alien Isolation, the space station Servestapol has a central intelligence mainframe called Apollo, which runs a fair bit of the station. It also has a small army of cheap androids, called Working Joes which it controls. The Working Joes are about as smart and as articulate as a roomba. But here's the garbage tech part: Apollo locks its communications chamber off from everyone, and then the *only way* to communicate with it is via a Working Joe, which has to insert itself into a CAT scanner like device.

Of course, once you are in the comm chamber, Apollo speaks via text.

I think that's because of the retro-futurism they're going for with the Alien aesthetic, but right there with you on that one.

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