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A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
This is a thread for talking about the poo poo going down today and other days

here are some helpful links to support our comrades struggling for justice

Unicorn Riot is an alternative news media covering this poo poo on the ground in minneapolis
https://unicornriot.ninja/donate/


The MN Freedom Fund pays for bail and bond of the protestors that will inevitably be jailed by the pigs
https://minnesotafreedomfund.org/donate


This is the only gofundme that goes to George Floyd's family
https://www.gofundme.com/f/georgefloyd

a tweet from the freedom fund with other suggestions:
https://twitter.com/MNFreedomFund/status/1265735264242225152

Unicorn riot also posted some pdfs with information about safe and effective protesting against the police but i don't have those atm

If you know of other ways to support our comrades, feel free to post those links


The bard has spoken: Today was not a good day.

https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1265985651918254081

e: on a more serious note:

https://twitter.com/CodyReese_/status/1265933297281929216

the kids are alright :unsmith:

A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 19:41 on May 28, 2020

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A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
https://twitter.com/rtyson82/status/1266055362051862528

https://twitter.com/atomicthumbs/status/1266098876454367232

A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 23:04 on May 28, 2020

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
cops are bad

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

:hmmyes:


Stream for a protest in minneapolis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws3vTHdX1Uw


unicorn riot will be out later:

https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1266097679265705984

A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 23:18 on May 28, 2020

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?

Man, poo poo is going to get bad out there.

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

The Lord of Hats posted:

Man, poo poo is going to get bad out there.

lol you have no idea

https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1266130971344146433

they are totally gonna try to get them off


e: now with video

https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1266136952874696709

A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 23:57 on May 28, 2020

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU
Thanks for puttin' this thread together.

I . . . still haven't watched the video. All the reactions from the USPOL thread had the same vibe that "industrial lathe accidents" do in the OSHA thread - that I was better off not looking.

I'm still not sure if it's worth watching. I'm tempted, just so I can say I did if one of my co-workers ends up saying something ignorant, but . . . I dunno. Ugh.

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

Zarin posted:

Thanks for puttin' this thread together.

I . . . still haven't watched the video. All the reactions from the USPOL thread had the same vibe that "industrial lathe accidents" do in the OSHA thread - that I was better off not looking.

I'm still not sure if it's worth watching. I'm tempted, just so I can say I did if one of my co-workers ends up saying something ignorant, but . . . I dunno. Ugh.

unless you really want to listen to a man beg for his life for minutes, do not watch the video

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Youtube just pulled this stream down.
It was showing a smoking building up the street, and reports of a cop car being burnt out.

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU

A big flaming stink posted:

unless you really want to listen to a man beg for his life for minutes, do not watch the video

Y'know what? If push comes to shove, I'm sure I can convincingly lie about having watched it if I have to.

Good call.

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
https://twitter.com/courtneygodfrey/status/1266135964763795457


drat, shows over boys

the perps pled the fifth, nothing more we can do, they got away with this one

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


https://twitter.com/JesseRodriguez/status/1266194870357692416

DeeplyConcerned
Apr 29, 2008

I can fit 3 whole bud light cans now, ask me how!

There is no evidence that could possibly justify kneeling on a guy’s neck for five seconds let alone five minutes. That’s Murder 1.

If you really really need to incapacitate someone there’s a quick and easy way to do it. It has nothing to do with obstructing breathing. Wrap your arm around the neck, cradling it between your forearm and bicep. Apply a firm squeezing pressure for five or seven seconds. This hold cuts off blood flow to the brain causing unconsciousness, while avoiding damage to the windpipe.

There’s one way out of this hold but you both have to be standing. Grab the arm with both hands and drop your weight to the floor. This will break the hold. If you’re both already on the ground there’s no way to break the hold. I don’t care if you’re Arnold Schwarzenegger, there is no way to get that arm off of your neck from a prone position before the loss of oxygen-rich blood to the brain causes you to go ragdoll.

Murder 1.

Burginator
Sep 10, 2007

Two ALL BEEF patties,
Special Sauce?
Let Us Cheese.
Aaaaaand now the 3rd precinct is on fire in Minneapolis, with fireworks going off in celebration. What a night.

hottubrhymemachine
May 24, 2006

Connie is death process
Thanks for posting the link to his brothers GoFundMe. Just donated $20 from the UK. gently caress those cops, hope they get everything they deserve!

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!



lol @ the sinister music someone posted over this hurt kid

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




DeeplyConcerned posted:


If you really really need to incapacitate someone there’s a quick and easy way to do it. It has nothing to do with obstructing breathing. Wrap your arm around the neck, cradling it between your forearm and bicep. Apply a firm squeezing pressure for five or seven seconds. This hold cuts off blood flow to the brain causing unconsciousness, while avoiding damage to the windpipe.


Alternatively, if you can't restrain someone without making them lose consciousness: Don't be a cop. Even a controlled choke out can cause brain damage and I don't really trust cops to perform it or being told that that method is okay to use.

KingEup
Nov 18, 2004
I am a REAL ADDICT
(to threadshitting)


Please ask me for my google inspired wisdom on shit I know nothing about. Actually, you don't even have to ask.
"Angry gets poo poo done"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTz80Ur2XeQ

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
Whats the threads thoughts on alleged planted provocateurs

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1631617923655237&id=276157035868006&d=null&vh=e

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

My first thoughts were that it isn't unprecedented, it isn't implausible, and I trust the ability of people nearby to get a general feel for his "vibe."

But it'd probably be a bad idea to assume it's an officer, and some messages from someone naming names isn't really proof.

It'd be like if someone at work said there were donuts in the break room. It wouldn't be wrong to assume it's true, but it would also probably be wrong to authoritatively claim that there are definitely donuts.

But then this tweet came out:

https://mobile.twitter.com/sppdmn/status/1266202225677910022

And now I'm pretty much convinced it's true.

Ragnar34
Oct 10, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
I wonder how many cities will have to burn down to get the murderer indicted.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

Ragnar34 posted:

I wonder how many cities will have to burn down to get the murderer indicted.

What optimism. Trump will pardon him in any case.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Kinda amazing that america didn't think there would be a problem with giving a gun and a badge to anyone who failed the intelligence test for the army, but couldn't pass the fitness exam to be a mall "security officer". Good greif.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

Drone_Fragger posted:

Kinda amazing that america didn't think there would be a problem with giving a gun and a badge to anyone who failed the intelligence test for the army, but couldn't pass the fitness exam to be a mall "security officer". Good greif.

Yeah, but it also is the wound of slavery that was never healed. The cops have been murdering people so long they don't remember how to do anything else.

Zotix
Aug 14, 2011



Decent sized protest in Atlanta right now. The police have a bike line, but no riot gear. The CNN building is graffitid up pretty good.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

doverhog posted:

Yeah, but it also is the wound of slavery that was never healed. The cops have been murdering people so long they don't remember how to do anything else.

Hey now! The cops can do plenty of things other than murder people. They can also steal stuff, assault people, deal drugs, work directly with organized crime and much, much more! :v:

I wonder what medal Trump will award to the murderers after he pardons them?

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006





I think that entire scene is about 5 minutes long and it's one of the greatest scenes in television history.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




ketchup vs catsup posted:

I think that entire scene is about 5 minutes long and it's one of the greatest scenes in television history.

And then they fired the actor because the character was "too angry".

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

Alhazred posted:

And then they fired the actor because the character was "too angry".

What the gently caress, is this real? You got a link?

*nevermind I googled it, hosed up

doverhog fucked around with this message at 19:36 on May 30, 2020

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




A cop car drove into a group of people and de Blasio refuses to condemn it. The cops are literally using terrorist methods and that's just how the new normal is.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 9 hours!

Alhazred posted:

A cop car drove into a group of people and de Blasio refuses to condemn it. The cops are literally using terrorist methods and that's just how the new normal is.

Police are going to keep escalating and it’s going to get really loving bad. I don’t see any way it goes peacefully with our current law enforcement.

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =
So what is the actual word on the ground re: damage in the riots.

I've seen a lot of people say "what about businesses being destroyed" and others respond with "property is not as important as lives". Which I get and agree with.

Is this just a case of actually not as many places are getting hit as what they are insinuating thus "what about businesses" is a de facto right wing talking point? (Note I don't care about like say a Target or a Best Buy or big chain outfit). Or is it really that callous to say like, gently caress you to your lives work to a small business owner who wasn't doing poo poo?

Like I'm on board with huge levels of civil disobedience in terms of pushing back against violent cops, taking public spaces and vandalising / protesting public government stuff especially. But I see this other talking point coming up again and again and I just don't really know how it sits with me. Killer Mike getting up and saying "hey let's not burn down our communities" and he was getting blasted for it.

I'm honestly asking here I'm not American and maybe I just don't get it from that sense.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 9 hours!
There’s some looting, mostly in Minneapolis but mostly just protesters getting shot at with “less than” lethals by the cops.

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =

SpaceSDoorGunner posted:

There’s some looting, mostly in Minneapolis but mostly just protesters getting shot at with “less than” lethals by the cops.

You know what? Between typing my post and this I’ve realised it almost doesn’t matter. I can’t trust that any story isn’t just being pushed by right wing pro cop sources anyway. I mean it’s truely bad that (apparently) a Native American resource centre, and several minority owned businesses have been set alight and I honestly believe that the people responsible for those things should be punished, overall change doesn’t happen without good and bad and ultimately I can’t just keep focusing on that as that’s what it intended by the people who control the narratives want.

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth
https://streamable.com/u2jzoo


You dont even need to be a protestor to get shot at by cops. Even just standing on your own doorstep is enough to warrant state violence

KingEup
Nov 18, 2004
I am a REAL ADDICT
(to threadshitting)


Please ask me for my google inspired wisdom on shit I know nothing about. Actually, you don't even have to ask.
It’s time to de-escalate the situation:

https://twitter.com/anthonysabatini/status/1266946982716858374?s=21

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Protesters remember to drive home and get their AR-15s

enki42
Jun 11, 2001
#ATMLIVESMATTER

Put this Nazi-lover on ignore immediately!

teacup posted:

Like I'm on board with huge levels of civil disobedience in terms of pushing back against violent cops, taking public spaces and vandalising / protesting public government stuff especially. But I see this other talking point coming up again and again and I just don't really know how it sits with me. Killer Mike getting up and saying "hey let's not burn down our communities" and he was getting blasted for it.

I have loudly argued several times on this forum that I don't generally support rioting and property damage in most protests. We've had protests in my city that involved a large amount of property damage, and were completely unfocused and unrealistic (basically "let's smash windows of small local businesses because we don't like capitalism"). That earned me a lovely red title, but I maintain that in a lot of cases, property damage against non-corporate targets is counterproductive and stupid.

I think this is different. Take a good look at the news. You don't even have to go to leftist sources. Look at what's happening, how disproportionately violent the police response is, and ask yourself, is focusing on the looting and rioting the most important thing to be upset about right now? You don't have to like it, you don't have to support it, but what the police are currently doing in America so far outweighs anything else, almost any amount of rioting is completely irrelevant.

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012





https://orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2019/02/05/florida-rep-anthony-sabatini-also-wore-blackface-and-he-has-yet-to-resign

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Forseti
May 26, 2001
To the lovenasium!
Did anyone ever figure out what that CBP Predator drone was up to? I figure the camera surveillance is a good bet but the computer security nerd in me is really worried about the Stingray cell tower spoofer: https://www.aclu.org/issues/privacy-technology/surveillance-technologies/stingray-tracking-devices-whos-got-them

Not just drone borne, but I'd bet these are getting use across the country :(

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