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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Jedit posted:

Production order on Buffy/Angel is simple - from S4/S1 alternate between the two shows.

For spinoffs and movies of B5, should you get that far: watch In The Beginning and Thirdspace between S4 and S5 and River of Souls and A Call to Arms after S5 but before Crusade.

A Call to Arms is the pilot episode of Crusade so definitely get that in order if nothing else.

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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Son of Sam-I-Am posted:

maybe rename the thread something like Babylon 5 Newbie Nature Preserve

Rename it to whatever you want but include "spoiler = 1 week probe" or whatever punishment mods deem appropriate in the title since we've already seen several examples of nerds physically unable post here without playing smirking “I KNOW MORE THAN YOU” dickwaving games about a media property and the thread is barely five days old.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Edit nope

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Neo Rasa posted:

This is correct. Not really a spoiler just general observation, I always liked that it was a relatively small number compared to lot of large cities irl because the amount of people actually for real living on the station or assigned to it for a length of time is pretty small compared to how much of it is the infrastructure that keeps it going and communal spaces/food production/etc. type of stuff. There's a few amusingly dated calls about how certain stuff things work in the future but at the same time it's very real in a lot of ways a lot of the other 90s sci-fi shows never really went for.


DS9 was similar, it has a capacity 7,000 people but the actual for real there full time population is something crazy small for the size of the station like < 1000 people because its original purpose was that of an ore processing plant and most of the station is just storage space. I think the actual complement was only 300.

Small population also helps explain why the same 30 people keep showing up at everything important in your TV show. :v:

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





VideoGames posted:

1-11 Survivors

Ivanova is the second in command of the station; Garibaldi is the security chief.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

If they ever re-make B5 they're going to have to use an actual cheese grater on the scripts.

Related to that, I've watching the first season again because of this thread and something that really stands out in the writing is the technical error of repetition. "I am taking Command Commander" etc. Nothing egregious, but clunky and indicative of not actually being read aloud.

There's some ritualized repetition in real world military, aircraft, and ship operation that sounds clunky as hell so that's not totally inaccurate.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





It was gratifying to see Devo remembered as the pioneers they were. :whip:

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





TheAardvark posted:

Not sure. Spoiler it for me?

Subliminal message flashed in the commercial. It was not present in some regions’ releases so it may simply not have been present in what you watched.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





TheAardvark posted:

weird how i feel like you bringing that up at all a month later is actually a massive spoiler

even if it's a red herring/technical glitch gently caress you for making me think about it for the rest of the show now

If it makes you feel any different that account was a lovely rereg that has managed to be probed almost the whole time it’s been registered and is probably best put on ignore.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Doctor Zero posted:

I got a decent Sony VHS in good shape off eBay and a digital recorder off amazon for a grand total of $60. The recorder even has an LCD so I don’t have to hook it up to a TV.

Most of our recordings aren’t first run though, my dad taped the reruns.
Got a link to the recorder from Amazon?

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Son of Sam-I-Am posted:

Well what's a "pure" experience though? Should we enforce that they watch by air date only? That seems rather presumptuous, and if someone does want a "when is best storywise" order I'd rather someone give that in here than forcing them out into searching the internet at large with spoiler landmines galore.

A pure experience is where they can watch it without having nerds who have already seen it barge in and answer questions they haven't even asked.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Doctor Zero posted:

Yes. But first let me say that I am an idiot and have poor long term memory or something, because the recorder is a lot more than I remembered. I was probably thinking of a cable that would allow me to connect the VHS to my Mac, and that was $30, not the one I ultimately bought. So I was off by a factor of 4.

Regardless, if you are interested, it does do a fantastic job.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07V9JNRZY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Awesome, thanks!

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Re:ship size It has a bay big enough to hold a couple of Minbari shuttles so while it’s small compared to an Omega or Sharlin, it’s still pretty big.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





mllaneza posted:

I thought I was in that one.

I'm the blind thread reader.

This is the blind watch thread.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





I wouldn’t go to heroic lengths to get them; they don’t hold any critical plot information. They’re more “hey here’s this thing you saw on the show again, but now it’s SOMEWHERE ELSE! :monocle:” If you want more B5 the novels pick up some plot threads and extend them beyond season 5 and are generally regarded as good though hard to find.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





The_Doctor posted:

S3ep14 - Ship of Tears

I have a brain itch here on one minor plot point. G’kar tells us that there are no Narn telepaths because the Shadows killed them all. But also G’quan and the remaining Narn telepaths drove out the Shadows. So there are Narn telepaths that made it out...?


There are not. The Narn telepaths all died in the final battle, either in a last knockout strike to drive off the Shadows or to smash their defenses so the rest of the Narn could push them back. Either way, no Narn telepaths were alive after end of the war which is why an early G’Kar character beat was being a horn dog for other species’ telepaths.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





The_Doctor posted:

Oh god, that's right! he was trying to hook up with Lyta, wasn't he?

:quagmire:

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Remember this is the blind watch thread.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Empress Brosephine posted:

Where can I find the original air order? I read a few things saying that the order on HBO Max is really wacked

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Babylon_5_episodes

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Finger Prince posted:

That is some strong "I took 10mg melatonin and ate half a block of old cheddar before bed last night" energy.

It's even stronger "I'm a rereg of a shitfucker who made a lot of bad posts in this thread earlier" energy.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Hollismason posted:

isn't blowing it upjsut going to lead to more problems lol.

Depends on what's going on at the time, destroying it means it can't be reused as a pirate base or similar.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Here's the thread to generally shitpost about B5 in, idiot. Blind watchers, I recommend not going there until you're done because anything goes there.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





B5 managed to license some extremely dubious games.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





jng2058 posted:

But also some good ones. I loved Babylon 5 Wars, for instance. The game broke down if you let fleet sizes get too big, but for small scale engagements, the level of detail they put in was marvelous. Once Agents of Gaming lost the license and it went to Mongoose, their Babylon 5: A Call to Arms did large fleet battles much better, but I really missed the detail and personality of the ships from B5 Wars.

B5W was good and Fleet Action was okay, though B5W became unplayable with more than a handful of ships on each side, similar to Star Fleet Battles. I have everything AoG published for B5W and FA as well as the ActA 1E base but never had a chance to play it and never bothered with any of the expansions - it seemed a bit less abstract than FA but nowhere near as teeth-shatteringly crunchy as B5W.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





jng2058 posted:

You could make B5 Wars work on a large scale in a convention setting where you had a lot of players each handling a small number of ships, a GM or two to keep things on track, and a double time slot of like eight hours. I once played a B5W event at Origins just like that where we played out one of the bigger battles from the show where each of us got one capital ship and it's fighter squadrons. Took forever, but it was a hell of a lot of fun.

Not something you could reasonably do on the fly, of course, but it could be done.

It seemed like you would need a basketball court for an entire week to do some of the scenarios provided in the books.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Stopped the clock for a while at least.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Vavrek posted:

[Redacted pending review.]

VVV Uh, fair. I'm unsure where to consider The Line to be and may have stepped over The Line. My apologies.

A large battle was fought over that but it ended abruptly.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007






I lol every time.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Powered Descent posted:


e: What the hell is the deal with this Nazi-looking thing on the wall?



That's Garibaldi, the chief of security for B5. :v:

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Powered Descent posted:

:v:

But seriously, folks, what is the deal here? My best guess: it's just the color-number-sector designation with an alien symbol in it instead of the number. I have vague recollections of seeing similar signs with different colors around the outside and different symbols but I can't recall exactly where or what episode(s). Is this like "Red 3" in Zorblonian, and no one in the production staff noticed the unfortunate similarity to :godwinning:?

It's an inverted "z" from the Babylon 5 station typeface; I suspect your guess is correct and the color scheme is just an unfortunate coincidence.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





discoukulele posted:

So we're watching Thirdspace and my friend asked a question about Mira Furlon so I looked up her Wikipedia and I didn't know that she just died last year. drat :(

Yeah, it kind of came out of nowhere and surprised everybody a few months ago.

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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Would Londo try to get Vir into bitcoin? :v:

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