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blind bookmarked threadFrankenstyle posted:I'm so glad I saw this show when it came out, because it doesn't hold up well now. lol it literally gets better every single time I watch it, which I've admitedly lost track of but is approaching double digits
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2023 13:34 |
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if that's your reaction to a throwaway season 1 episode then this thread is going to get insanely good
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also have you seen any Stargate?
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TheAardvark posted:I've watched the original movie like 4 or 5 times but never any of the TV shows lol There's a reason I ask, based on your post about ascended beings you'd probably appreciate that show too. You are where I was last winter; my wife was trying to get me to watch SG-1 and I was reluctant because I had thought it was a Hercules/Xena tier show, but it really surprised me basically right from the start and I enjoyed it quite a bit.
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sebmojo posted:starting again on s1 when you've just finished s5 is an incredible power move, incidentally - you notice a lot more to like about s1 and obviously, all the stuff that was being foreshadowed as early as the pilot is even richer. its possible that's what you're referring to, but my wife had us do exactly that the first time she saw it
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Originally I must have caught the pilot, because I remember G'Kar's proposition to Lyta as my first experience with the show, and then season 1 off and on, but by season 2 it was something I made sure I was there to watch every episode.
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thankfully that is a very mild and general spoiler, but people definitely need to keep it in their pants itt
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maybe rename the thread something like Babylon 5 Newbie Nature Preserve
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You couldn't make a show like this today, no one's interested in the slow burn start anymore. I'm just as guilty with new stuff, as a viewer, if something doesn't grab my interest very quickly. Beyond that, though, there's no such thing as awe, wonder, seeking after the profound and wrestling with the great mysteries of life, those little moments that do nothing to further the plot but everything to further the themes. Drama, plot, comedy, action - guts and brains, that's all anybody knows anymore, no heart.
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Sanguinia posted:Bad News: This thread made me want to go rewatch B5, but sometime since my last rewatch a couple of years ago it went from free on Amazon Prime to per-episode-purchase on Amazon Prime. Being able to watch b5 is one of the reasons I finally broke down and got that drat service, what a gip! I just finished doing this for the first time, I'd seen the movie a few times but never any of the show. I enjoyed it and I would enjoy a thread.
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TheAardvark posted:S1E20 - "Babylon Squared" While fully realizing this is wankery to the hilt, I'm still a sucker for it, in this and Star Trek and Stargate and so on and so on.
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TheAardvark posted:all right, I'm going to give Stargate a whirl to keep myself from blowing money on more B5 before it goes to Prime. I'll pick up B5 again at a slower pace once The_Doctor catches up. Gonna start a thread for that one too? OtherworldlyInvader posted:It's a blind watch thread, let them experience it fresh without expectations built up by other people On the one hand, yeah, but on the other hand, a little bit of inoculation doesn't hurt. I'd heard a lot about Stargate Universe having a different tone from SG-1 and Atlantis before I watched any of the Stargate shows, and that it was offputting to many fans of the former, which to me helped set the expectation so it wasn't so jarring of a transition. And although I myself was still on the fence for a while despite that, about halfway through the first season it really caught my interest and then kept getting better from there. I'm not completely sure I would've made it that far without knowing, to some degree, what to expect. But, on the gripping hand, less is more.
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TheAardvark posted:I wondered about this, because I think S1E20 refers to Babylon 4 as the largest of the human stations(?). Have we gotten a rough population count for B5 so far, by the way? I may have missed it. Not really a spoiler to answer at least the one question, B5's population is around a quarter million. One of the season opening credits says it I think.
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Sad King Billy posted:Just a thought about 2:1 Why are you posting this if you're not a first timer?
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Sad King Billy posted:Absolutely nothing relating past 2:1 in that spoiler. I don't think I agree with that, but it's a matter to discuss more in the other thread.
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VideoGames posted:Ok just watched Deathwalker and that was pretty decent too. Absolutely, the most horrifying part of the episode is that you know she's 100% correct about what would have happened.
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O to be a fly on the wall, but alas, my voyeurism does know bounds.
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I have to say, VideoGames, I am loving your enthusiasm.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I think I've heard that a whole lot about Londo was just Peter Jurasik's decisions. Like how apparently the original plan was that he'd have a much smaller crest. I believe I've heard they tried to get him not to do the accent either, but every time they rolled film he kept doing it. Definitely the right choice on his part, it's iconic.
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TheAardvark posted:ah, that's fantastic. I didn't notice it, but it may have been there. If memory serves, in the commentary for this episode (S2E15) JMS claims they contacted the FCC to get an exact threshold for something to be considered illegally subliminal, and made this bit toe the line as closely as possible.
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I'm extremely hype for just about every single episode in the entire rest of the show. Warn me about that why don'tcha??
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MrL_JaKiri posted:What, even [redacted]? Every single episode of this show is great. Even the bad ones, and I am unanimous on this.
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TheAardvark posted:Here we loving GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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An aside: I have the DVDs, but after some discussion in here about the version on Vudu being the superior 4:3 I decided to check it out. I was very worried at first when we watched The Gathering tonight because if anything that one might be even worse than the DVD version (although it's been a while). Its widescreen but it looks like not just the effects shots, but the whole thing, got the crop-and-zoom treatment that hampered the DVD effects shots. Also it had a terrible frame stutter. But the first few seconds of episode 1 put my fears to rest, the cgi looks smooth as butter. I'm happy I spent the money to support the greatest show of all time. Really looking forward to seeing this in a way I haven't for 20+ years.
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Are the other movies included as well, or is it just The Gathering, as the pilot?
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The_Doctor posted:The versions I’m watching on my Plex are quite clear, but I noticed during ‘Now for a word’ they zoomed in whenever there was text on screen, cropping the picture. Mine are all 16:9 too. Sounds like those are at least based on the DVDs then.
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Too vehement perhaps? Edited out, anyway.
Winifred Madgers fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Aug 9, 2020 |
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Polaron posted:Don't do this, dude. Edited, in the interest of comity. Please do the same.
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Anyway I don't think I was giving hints or whatever, I was essentially agreeing with TheAardvark. The show is always less about events and more about characters and themes. But I'll abide by the thread's wisdom above my own in this regard.
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The_Doctor posted:Oh, I get it. As we’ve said repeatedly, Babylon 5 is basically a play on screen, and thus there’s very similar limitations. I also listen to a lot of Big Finish audio plays, and there’s similar amounts of things being described and not actually seen. I still disagree, you can see from space that the explosions are immense. The whole production, from Londo's palpable horror, to the way it's shot, to the music, says enough imo. But, I suppose it does take all kinds to make a world, even if I do think you all are, in various ways, a bunch of weirdos.
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If I can pipe in with one last thought on the movies, I'm not sure how a contextless optimized watch order for them could be considered a spoiler, any more than an optimized episode order is. If I'm watching something serialized I always appreciate a guide, like when we were going through Stargate my wife found an optimized watchlist that maximized the number of SG-1 and Atlantis episodes we could watch, without spoilers, sequentially rather than just going back and forth between the shows, and I found that really helpful and enjoyable. I guess you could say, if you're paranoid to an unhealthy degree, that led us to know that e.g. season 9 episode 1 ended a multi-part episode or had something referred to in the next episode of the other show. But that's a little extreme.
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Doctor Zero posted:On the other hand, some people don't even look up future episode titles, so best to err on the side of caution. IMO the "blind watch" should be as close to the pure 1st time viewing experience as possible. Well what's a "pure" experience though? Should we enforce that they watch by air date only? That seems rather presumptuous, and if someone does want a "when is best storywise" order I'd rather someone give that in here than forcing them out into searching the internet at large with spoiler landmines galore.
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I think the main new viewers in this thread are past it already, but on the DVDs and probably therefore also Amazon streaming, the first couple of episodes of season 2 have an incorrect title sequence that displays a spoiler, while the version on Vudu has the correct sequence for these episodes.
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The_Doctor posted:Yeah, I got spoiled that way. Sorry I couldn't post that sooner, we just got to that point in our rewatch and I hadn't remembered it until then.
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The_Doctor posted:S2ep10 - Severed Dreams If you're talking about the starfuries left to fill in B5's complement, all berths were filled on the surviving ship(s) (I forget the actual tactical situation), so while they could escape, the rebels would always have to have a fighter wing outside the ship, or wait until they join up with another ship that lacked fighters. It's a matter of efficience and practicality.
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Oh, okay. I chalk that up to the fighters were engaged away from the ship, and turning to run for a jump point would leave them vulnerable.
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Looking forward to reading about watching some B5 soon.
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The_Doctor posted:
Not a spoiler per se, so short answer, yes. There is a longer answer but that's pretty much what it boils down to.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2023 13:34 |
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Empress Brosephine posted:I am, I just watched s1 episode 12. I watch a episode a week basically though since my gf hates the show. where's all the posts then
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