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MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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McCloud posted:

Oh boy oh boy, these threads are like catnip to B5 nerds. How I envy your journey

Yarp.

I love reading peoples reactions. I'm currently up to s3e2 with the other half (I have seen it plenty of times, she has never seen it before) so it's interesting to see how you guys get on

The_Doctor posted:

Watching The Gathering now, and it's definitely required viewing. LOTS of setup all over the place, dearly missing from the first eps of the series.

Ehhhh kinda. It gets brought up when it's important.

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MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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TraderStav posted:

We mentioned this in the other thread, but stay out of that B5 thread until you've finished the series. You do NOT want to come across spoilers and ruin this experience for yourselves.

So I first got into B5 because a friend of mine was raving about it when it was being shown on TV and I decided to check it out. The first episode I saw was The Hour of the Wolf, s4e01. I think coming into it so late is part of the reason I like living vicariously through people watching from the start because it must be just incredible.

MrL_JaKiri fucked around with this message at 10:49 on Jun 3, 2020

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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The_Doctor posted:

I felt like she didn’t gel very well, and it sounds like Tomita was really struggling with the dialogue in places. She might have worked it out had she chosen to stick with it, but that was her decision to make.

Partially it depends on what version you watched, too. Originally she had very "military" line reads that the network didn't like from a female character and demanded that she be softened. The pilot as broadcast has redubbed all her dialogue with these softer reads, the remastered version has the originals back.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Torrannor posted:

It's really cool to see all of you happily watch B5. And you're fortunate, you don't have to wait a week between each new episode, or even months between seasons, like we had to back in the day. You can watch it at your own pace.

Didn't have to scour the tv guide like a hawk to work out where it had moved to

S4: 11pm on Thursday evenings
S5: 10am on a Sunday morning during a beach themed breakfast show

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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The_Doctor posted:

Currently watching s1ep14 - TKO

god this is dull

Probably the low point, but it still has some fun stuff in it.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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TheAardvark posted:

sorry. I think the word just hasn''t been used enough to stick in my brain correctly. It's the same reason I was calling him "Cotto" until I just went and looked to be reminded of his first name. I am not great with names.

Londo shouting "VIR!" is one of life's little pleasures

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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TheAardvark posted:

Full S1 spoiler
Yeah, but I think that only happened once in the last 10 episodes I watched (when they were hiding from the feeder). Y'all gotta keep in mind that the only thing I've seen is season 1, which may not prioritize characters the same way as later seasons.

I said "look up" the name but I just meant that I had to make sure of it before posting so I don't misspell things.


It wasn't a criticism of you not knowing the name, it was just a comment

I also know the name of literally every character because I used to play the collectable card game back in the 90s.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Unkempt posted:

the implication here is that people on Bab 5 are allowed to murder, rape, torture or enslave anyone (of their own species) as long as they've got a religion that says it's OK.


More than safe to read for anyone up through where The Doctor is (s2e5):

It's clear that this is not the case, because when the Drazi started murdering each other in s2e3 it was clearly Not On.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Milkfred E. Moore posted:

I think the DVDs had subtitle/dialogue disagreements, too. Maybe they drew subtitles from the scripts-as-written versus as shot or something?

The script as shot was basically always the script as written according to JMS (and probably the script books if anyone owns them).

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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VideoGames posted:

Good grief. That was great. I think it came at just the right time in the season too.

Morden (like the place in London) for the character spelling btw. Loved reading the thoughts overall!

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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TheAardvark posted:

but then they made a big deal about how hard it was for him to get the ingredients for Bagna Cauda! shipping an entire bike up there must have been insanely expensive !!!!

Anonymouse Mook posted:

Not necessarily. I'm sure mass factors into it somewhat, but I would assume shipping some perishable foods would be more expensive, as you would want it shipped very quickly, or in an appropriately chilled state. A bike is just another load of machinery

Yeah, it's explicitly getting the food before it spoils that's the issue.

If you've ever had anything shipped overseas - like some friends of mine from the UK to Australia - it apparently can get very hot in the containers.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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The subtitles were wrong, it's Kha'ri

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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The_Doctor posted:

I watched Coming of Shadows again, and dredged up some of my old thoughts.

S2ep09 - Coming of Shadows Redux


At the end, Garibaldi thanks the ranger and tells he may have saved the lives of a quarter of a million Narn. What did he do, exactly? Just relay that the the attackers and the Centauri are linked? You could infer that information given 10 seconds’ thought, but I guess confirmed info is better.


Londo doesn't want his "forces" revealed. Although Sheridan doesn't know it, it's a threat to Londo personally.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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sebmojo posted:

There is also a weird inter racial agreement to measure time in earth years

As the humans say,

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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TheAardvark posted:

S2E15 - And Now for a Word


Lmfao at this Psi Corps commercial, God I love stuff like this.


Did you notice the little bonus?

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Knives is the last episode written by someone other than JMS until series 5 (and even then, there's only one)

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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2x20 is my favourite episode of the entire programme. It feels like there's enough plot for 3-4 episodes, and it has some of the most iconic moments in the show (most notably Londo staring out the window, which is a lovely little shot).

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:

I'm extremely hype for just about every single episode in the entire rest of the show. Warn me about that why don'tcha??

What, even [redacted]?

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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The_Doctor posted:

S2ep13 - Hunter, Prey

Tony Steedman!


He was originally supposed to have been the president in Caves of Androzani, which would have been great. Not that David Neal is poo poo or anything.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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TheAardvark posted:

S2E22 - The Fall of Night


Lol G'Kar hiding behind a tree


The collectable card game used this as the picture for the card "Lack of Subtlety".

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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The_Doctor posted:

S2ep16 - In the Shadow of Z’ha’dum

Maccabee’s actor


Who also played Reed Richards in the Roger Corman Fantastic Four

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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RedSnapper posted:

I hear you

I hear you!!

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Nipponophile posted:

Y'all's watchthrough got me to poking around the Lurker's Guide for the first time in decades, and I came across this quote from Straczynski which is eerily relevant, 20+ years later:

In response to a post accusing him of trying to make the epidemic a political statement due to what was going on with AIDS at the time -

"The whole point of the episode is NOT political; it says that if you make a disease political on either side, you're gonna die. You have to set aside all that crap and just Deal With The Problem. The only "side" this episode took was in advocating compassion for those afflicted.

I have enough just dealing with what's actually *in* my series; don't compound the problem by adding things that you saw only in your own head, and which exist nowhere in dialogue or in the story. You are adding the template of your own beliefs as an overlay, and seeing this story through it. That ain't my problem. If you see this disease as political, that's your lookout. This show says that ANY attempt to politicize a disease is species-dangerous thinking. Period."


Which is horrendously naive at best - compassion for the afflicted is a political position, as current events show very clearly.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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The_Doctor posted:

S2ep20 - The Long, Twilight Struggle


An alright episode


How dare you

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Watch the films after you're done if you want to. They were produced during S5 and are far from essential. No need to thread them in.

Action Jacktion posted:

I don't know if anyone cares but maybe some of those titles or descriptions should be in spoilers.

Also the final episode of S5 is called Sleeping in Light

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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I also agree that describing exactly the earliest time to watch a stand alone movie to not be spoiled by something is itself a spoiler and should be not in this thread.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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It definitely has some, because it moves the struts apart for the explorer ship in Distant Star

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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The_Doctor posted:

Mine the area directly in front of the jumpgate.

Calm down there Rom

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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sebmojo posted:

Centauri are complete assholes, I think it's p much in line with that. Vir is very much the exception.

(up to s3e12) Londo is perfectly content to spread all kinds of misery and death on the Narns if it's happening out of sight. He was happy enough to use the Shadows to wipe out whole colonies, worse than the effects of the mass drivers he was so horrified about

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Horizon Burning posted:

b5 sometimes doesn't really handle scale of bad things happening well

Blind watch thread, dingus

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Believers was written by David Gerrold, who among other things wrote The Trouble with Tribbles

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Tsaedje posted:

Did I miss the post actually saying that it's Mira Furlan who died?

65 is no age

The chat about it is in the regular thread

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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I enjoy Boorman's Excalibur, although not as much as Zardoz which would be an absolute masterpiece if it wasn't shite

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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The_Doctor posted:

S3ep14 - Ship of Tears

Do not thump the book of G’quan. It is disrespectful.
They’re not the Streib (I think?).


They are not

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Narzack posted:

Oh, snap, i just found this thread, having just finished episode 3.17.

Do some posting about your thoughts!

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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S1/S2 talk:


The first three were sabotaged, Warren Keffer was included because the studio forced them to include a hotshot pilot character (who was, of course, unceremoniously killed off)


Sinclair actor talk:

It has come out since his death that Michael O'Hare had paranoid schizophrenia, which understandably made it rather taxing to play a character who has had his memory erased and is being potentially manipulated by aliens.

On a lighter note, here's a cool interview with him, which I'm pretty sure doesn't have anything in it you won't have encountered but leave it for later if you want to play it safe! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pR5IuVptRw

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Psycho Landlord posted:

I am watching this show for the 2nd time decades later with my SO who has never seen it before and we have both decided that the EA Omega is the best spaceship in sci fi thanks and gobbless

Well, equal first with the Leonov from 2010 which it is a very close 'omage to

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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Re: 2x02

Human supremacists featured throughout S1 - The War Prayer, for example.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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feedmegin posted:

Major as the second most junior officer rank is pretty lol

LC and Major are both OF3 in the standardised NATO rank scale, it's not an unreasonable ordering

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MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

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^^ Minor spoiler but remember which thread this is

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