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ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

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TraderStav posted:

We mentioned this in the other thread, but stay out of that B5 thread until you've finished the series. You do NOT want to come across spoilers and ruin this experience for yourselves.

The B5 thread is one of the most pure and good threads on these dumb forums.

Come join us when you’re done.

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ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

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I remember HATING Sheridan after the first episode of season 2.

He shared a lot of mannerisms with my worst bully at school (yay high school) and it triggered me hard. He had this whole “I’m the golden child” thing going on and just insta rage.

I’m not going to comment on if that feeling changed or not.

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Feb 24, 2004

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This is the episode that made me like Sheridan.

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TheAardvark posted:

One thing I keep coming back to, since the first full assembly scene, is just how much costume/make-up work all of that must have required. There's like 20 people in full prosthetic. I wonder how big the staff was for that on B5 compared to other shows - I guess Star Trek had a bigger budget, but still.

I seem to remember that a lot of those full costumes were permanent pieces that were attached to/draped over/placed on the actors whole or in large parts, thus reducing the amount of actual makeup time.

The Narn and Minbari had it the worst, in that they were actual makeup and took hours to prep. Stuff like the Pak'ma'ra were more like Halloween costumes that the actors just put on, and then were touched up as necessary.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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hope and vaseline posted:

I just started watching What We Do in the Shadows and someone here mentioned the similarities between Vir and Guillermo and they are dead on, it's so good

Gonna tackle this over in the Elder Races thread, I think.

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Feb 24, 2004

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The_Doctor posted:

S3ep2 - Convictions

Not many fishes
Left in the sea
Not many fishes
Just Londo and me.


I love the concept of B5 now being a place of pilgrimage after several races saw a holy being there. Oh, you crazy Vorlons. The monks from Arthur C Clarke’s ‘The Nine Billion Names of God’ showing up is an interesting side note.

Zach’s still wearing the Night Watch band? I thought he walked away from that.

Bombs! Zack’s security colleague seemed very laidback about an explosion going off in Down Below. Mate, this is a space station, that’s sort of something you should be concerned about. Carlson is that tired trope of angry insane loner who SHOUTS A LOT because he’s mad as hell and isn’t going to etc. Ho hum.

Londo is making it very hard to hate him when he’s being lovely and sitting with Lennier. But then for the whole first minute of coming round after the lift explosion, he completely ignores G’kar, not even looking at him. That said, the lift scene is amazing, not least for G’kar’s hilarious tiny voice “ᵂᵉ'ʳᵉ ᶦⁿ ʰᵉʳᵉ” mocking Londo. God, they’re so good together. :allears: G’Kar’s little ‘no!’ when they’re found is so funny.

Not a great episode, but the good parts are much enlivened by Londo and G’kar once more. Shame the plot happening around them is so dull.

NB: Garibaldi calls Morishi Jay at one point, but Jay is the laidback one at the beginning. :confused:


The elevator scene is my personal favorite scene in the entire series. It so perfectly encapsulates the two characters and you need virtually no context to understand it. I've used it as a hook to draw in 3-4 new viewers over the years.

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Feb 24, 2004

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The_Doctor posted:

I just found this in a box at home. I have the vaguest memory of it being in a collection of trading cards my dad bought once.



Wow. The shrunken-down version totally looked (to me) like someone photoshopped Ivanova onto a Crucifixion painting. The halo, the pose, everything.

I never noticed that visual parallel before now.

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Feb 24, 2004

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Vir is such a good character.

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CainFortea posted:

The entire show in general is almost more of a stage play than it is a TV show.

Yes, and it's one of my favorite things about the show.

Most of the bombastic stage actors are alien (literal or in the sense of "just plain weird"), and it helps make them feel alien. Some of that is necessity: G'Kar's face is under ten pounds of makeup, so he has to over-emote just to emote at all. Some of it helps them feel like they're from another culture entirely.

Plus it gives us great scenes like almost any time G'Kar is in an elevator.

What I'm saying is G'Kar rules.

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Feb 24, 2004

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SlothfulCobra posted:

I feel like Londo is one of the most complex and dynamic characters in the series.

“One of?”

The correct word is THE. Only G’Kar comes anywhere else.

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Feb 24, 2004

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Powered Descent posted:

s03e20 - And the Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place
  • Londo's plan seems to require that G'Kar sets out at once to spring Na'Toth. What if he waits a few months for further preparations? How long can Londo maintain the stakeout on Narn? What if G'Kar sends agents (perhaps drawing a map for them) instead of going himself? What if he concludes there's no chance of success and reluctantly decides not to die in a pointless attempt?
  • Londo, you rear end in a top hat, threatening Vir's family like that.
  • I feel like Vir would be a lovely liar. G'Kar would at least suspect that something wasn't quite kosher about the message.
  • Here's a sentence I don't say very often: the Baptist minister is talking a lot of sense.
  • I wonder what these "Z-minus" title cards are talking about. Z for Z'ha'dum?
  • So it's a double-double-cross. The plan makes more sense now, although it still seems so convoluted that there's a lot that could have gone wrong.
  • I wonder if they got angry letters about setting the beaten-to-death scene to religious music. Appropriate lyrics, though -- Refa has no hiding place.
  • :lol: at the assortment of Catholics, aliens and/or white people awkwardly dancing along to a Baptist revival.
  • Cool, a ctrl-v fleet of White Stars.


This is one of my favorite episodes of the whole show.

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