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HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Shear Modulus posted:

this is the woman who was insider trading on her coronavirus senate briefings right

no this is the one that couldnt even win an election in arizona so they refused to hold an election to replace gone mcbrain and appointed her

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HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

poty posted:

is this about working in an office? i would personally not wear gloves. using the bathroom should be fine if you wash your hands 20+ secs. bring a big bottle of hand sanitizer and use it after every time you have to touch your mask to drink water

using the bathroom in an open office building is insanely far away from anything which could be considered fine. Air circulation in multiple occupancy restrooms sucks because of the dividers, so you sit on a toilet in a tiny plastic box breathing the previous occupant's ronifarts or you're either standing at a urinal with your face exactly in the stagnant roni cloud of the gurgling boomer that just drizzled all over the floor before your turn.

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010
Restaurants also had to incur a lot of costs to start things up again. They were shut down for weeks so every scrap of food probably had to be thrown away, now the house needs to be cleaned and reorganized and lots more labor to sanitize etc. and advertisements paid for to let people know they're open, just to run at minimal capacity and not even make any money. Now they're all even more in debt and no one will extend a restaurant credit right now so if they fold they're probably gone forever. That will start having secondary effects on the food distribution businesses, restaurant supply, the media they're advertising in, the one shop in town that repairs refrigerated trucks, the fancy farmers that grow restaurant stuff, the landlord filth that owns the storefront. Reopening was a really stupid gamble but everyone bet the house on it.

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Vishass posted:

70-75% effectiveness with high rate of actual usage would be enough to kneecap the r0 and end the pandemic.

Not enough people would get the shot though.

If the People's Republic of China, under the steadfast leadership of the Communist Party of China, invents a 70% effective vaccine, I would be first in line. But I will never take any drug invented or first approved in the USA after 1/1/20.

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010
if you're being ordered to travel for work please be sure everyone knows that no law has been passed granting JOB CREATORS immunity to liability and that your family insists on having points of contact both for your supervisors to be sued individually as well as the company itself

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Gio posted:

i dont think you should have signed that with your forums name

the union contract bans discrimination against cummers of any size or ability, this could be used against you

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

oxsnard posted:

can anyone explain to me why people get all excited about positive test rates? Isn't that a function of test availability as much as anything else?

neoliberalism is the science of replacing things that are real with imaginary statistics that mean absolutely nothing so you can pretend you're doing good

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

You can actually measure this poo poo, after the Rose Garden address in March we took this poo poo seriously for ELEVEN days. Then Lloyd Blankfein went on TV and said "the cure can't be worse than the disease" and Trump took that as a cue to stop giving a gently caress.

March 25 is when Milwaukee reported massively disproportionate rates of death in the black community, and April 5 is when Chicago reported 70% of corona deaths were black. That's the period the "cure worse than the disease" talk started.

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Wrex Ruckus posted:

hot take: Herman Cain will evict the rona from his body without any long term ill effects just like BoJo, Rand, and every other rich ghoul

the really gross rich liches are hiding on yachts while their private doctors infect children on their private islands so they can farm the suvivors for antibody blood for the master and its chosen guards



hey anyone heard from bloomberg lately?

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010
the best thing for the inside of a polyman is the outside of a poly horse

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Smythe posted:

sweet pea

it means you have diabetes

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Bernie Panders posted:

Not quite, US lifespan in 1980 was 74. It's now 79.

life expectancy includes averaging in childhood deaths, boomers that made it past that were looking at 80-90s until they discovered their ronifest destiny

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

gently caress You And Diebold posted:

That one year we developed agriculture is still the dumbest

this was technically before we invented years though

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Ruggan posted:

Is it ethical for a surgeon to push patients with borderline cases towards the surgical route for reasons primarily driven by revenue? A desire to fill the OR in order to help offset lost revenue from a slowdown of elective cases due to COVID.

I think I already know the answer.

If you suspect a provider of doing this, what would / should you do?

If it's blatant enough it's possible that the Joint Commission might be able to scare them straight. When I worked in health care the administrators were always kinda scared of them, but if push comes to shove right now it's possible they'd just be found out as another toothless grift like everything else in america. But they probably would go straight to like higher administration who might decide the risk of losing access to all insurance money is greater than the risk of telling one surgeon to gently caress off

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Steve Yun posted:

In late February when it came out that the Americans evacuated from Wuhan were escorted off the plane by dudes without any protective gear, I accepted that we were going to gently caress this up on a national level.

edit: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/02/27/us-workers-without-protective-gear-assisted-coronavirus-evacuees-hhs-whistleblower-says/

When did you resign yourself to our failure
I had to see a doctor at the end of february and the reality of corona was almost sinking in for me but seeing the sheer disfunction of the medical and pharmacy systems had me confident that poo poo was going to be very bad.

But nothing spoke more clearly to how loving doomed america was than when trump made his national emergency declaration and some woman steps up to the mic and basically said hi you don't know me but I worked on HIV in the 80s and now I'm in charge of coronavirus

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010
again a reminder that the exact same congress we have now has to pile into a big room and shout at rand paul and pass a national budget by the end of september that donald trump will sign

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

SKULL.GIF posted:

The USA has 4% of the world's population and 25% of its COVID cases.

this is the exact same ratio for human beings in cages btw

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

and how old did he live to?

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Lacrosse posted:

loving what? I have to worry about this now??

they got an upper resipiratory infection WITH a cotton mask

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010
lot of people missing the obvious that trump just wants his kid out of the house

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010
well, melanias kid anyway

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010
among all the crimes against humanity of the american media, i feel like spending 4 months burying the fact that corona eats your balls should probably earn some special prizes in the whatever comes after because thats the one single thing that would have gotten americas white male power structure to care when there was a chance

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Stereotype posted:

It's because municipal power structures and geographical extents are not at all uniform across the United States which makes them extremely difficult to compare. People often confuse the inhabitants of an independent suburb with the city on which it has grown like tumor, and the way population is counted also often splits cities that have a unified government and geographical location. Wikipeda lists the Census Designated Place population, when normally people are actually referring to the Census Designated County population which can encompass multiple cities and is much larger.

Basically it's all semantics and counting people is hard.

actually its because school districts are funded by property taxes and required to be racially integrated but if you secede and incorporate a new small town with its own independent school system you can steal tons of money directly from any school which dares to educate black people and also ensure your keyleighs never make an unauthorized friend before the racism is locked in by teenage years

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Ruggan posted:

I’m not directly impacted. I just feel like the behavior is abhorrent and someone should stop this department head from scheduling peds kids for major surgery with the primary goal being filling up the OR.

the age of incrementalist decorum has passed away, now is the time to just fling as many bombs as still exist before the old structure crumbles. report them to CMS and JCAHO. there's probably not many insurance companies that pay for hospital care in any given market, pick one of the big 2 or 3 and report possible fraud, its the one single time they might be able to provide any value to society

worst case scenario the guy gets elected senator from florida

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Paradoxish posted:

if people I know are any indication it's a ton of people financing home improvements because they don't believe that any downturn will impact them

or they believe hyperinflation will make current-dollar debts a future dollar napkin

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

mazzi Chart Czar posted:

what's a good back up currency to use in case the US goes belly up?
Canada's, Mexico's, Euro?

bullets

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010
i repeat my prediction from an earlier version of this thread that doral tomp will, if there is even the slightest hesitation, use the supreme executive authority of the Defense Production Act to command the NFL to produce footbawl

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010
a declaration of national emergency is some old school cold war poo poo, basically Real Ultimate Power that's just held back by gossamer chains of decorum and tradition. donald trump can legally order human chemical weapons testing on ICE detainees. if he wanted to do a national quarantine enforced by the army coronavirus would be gone before someone could really do anything about it in a court. he just doesnt want to

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Chamale posted:

The Dodgers had to have their equipment manager play left field during a game recently because they were out of players. If the NFL tries to play this fall we'll get to see what happens when an average joe goes up against elite athletes.

NCAA players are already de facto slaves, so using the authority of a national emergency to put them into camps as a ready reserve draft wouldnt really even be much of a shock to most people

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010
if you think anything is strange about that chart then you have a lot of things to learn about the history of medical testing and black people in the USA

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010
the RNA vaccine technology they're trying to use to develop the WARP SPEED vaccine is theoretical and has never produced a product for approval in human beings but I'm sure the christian scientist at the CDC and the scarf lady that helped reagan with AIDS will get the job done safely and scientastically and they won't just test it on 4 supermax prisoners and then start shooting sports players and baristas with dart guns to make them go to work

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Paradoxish posted:

Do we even know for sure that infection rates among kids are exceptionally low? Everywhere that these studies are being conducted shut their schools down almost immediately, and we seem to be seeing huge spikes with young kids in the US now that parents aren't keeping them home anymore.

what seems much more likely than "kids just don't get sick from this one because idk Jesus maybe?" is that there's a feedback loop driven by limited data.

Because testing was so scarce due to the failure of the capitalist medical industry, the tests were restricted to higher risk people. Early data showed boomers got removed and kids were ok because they usually are, so no one was using scarce invasive tests on kids that were assumed to be fine regardless of the results. This left more of the limited test capacity available for people who could actually pay like basketball teams had more of a medical need. But it also left a big hole in the data.

assume "covid just affects old people" based on limited data -> restrict limited tests to old people -> generate no data about young people -> assume "covid just affects old people" based on limited data ->

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

FAUXTON posted:

glasses always half full with that guy

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010
once i got a delivery confirmation from USPS and it wasnt in the mailbox or at my door so I went to the post office to complain and they proudly showed me a computer screen with a GPS confirmed location for where they delivered it to and I said ok that's half a mile from where i live and my apartment isnt even on this map you just showed me and they said oh and then didn't do anything at all. it was only something like :10bux: so it wasn't worth it to me to make a big deal about but it probably never got any better and never will

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Xaris posted:

They deliver like 93420342342 billion packages/letters a day, there's gonna be a small fraction of gently caress-ups, especially with GOP and dems defunding it for the last 2 decades and especially now

it's a lot more loving reliable than fedex/ups or god forbid, ontrac. how the gently caress does ontrac still exist??

yeah i generally have always preferred to use USPS but with them being deliberately sabotaged thats just what people have to expect. like everything else about america, they'll spend a hundred million dollars to track a pair of motorcycle glove liners from space but then have absolutely no idea what to do if something goes wrong

I'm pretty sure package theft is extremely rare and just hyped by amazon to sell doorbell spy cameras, there's increasingly so much poo poo being delivered by people seen explicitly as only a "cost"

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

twoday posted:

remember when they destroyed all those crops a few months ago? So did we just not need that much food or what

the US overproduces by about 40% of its food every year because of the efficiency of capitalism and destroys the overage so there's no risk to the commodity value of food by the threat of giving it to the worthless poor who can't afford food because we destroy it to keep the prices high. like so many other horrifying atrocities people are suddenly finding out about america right now, this is nothing unusual, corona is just giving people an excuse to notice

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

empty whippet box posted:

Any day now deaths are just going to explode in a chain reaction of hospitals finally reaching capacity from 950ish a day to like 10,000 per day and it's going to be so much more horrifying than literally anybody in the USA, even people in this thread, can comprehend. lol it owns

while technically true this isn't really how it's going to happen because no one is bothering to test corpses in the great big pile to find out why specifically they each died before the bulldozers cover'er'up so the official death count will continue to massively lie

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

Gio posted:

so in what ways specifically will trump gently caress with covid data, go.

new database starts at 0

HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010

empty whippet box posted:

has biden even said a word about this lol

biden posted:

:sickos:

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HAMAS HATE BOAT
Jun 5, 2010
how are anti mask protests a thing, look at whos doing them, this is the easiest thing to disrupt. show up, strip down and make cletus and harriet explain to a crowd of flopping dongs why they get to pick and choose which articles of state mandated clothing are ok

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