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christmas boots posted:Honestly with everything Lucas has said about Star Wars (even down to suggesting Darth Icky as the name of a Sith villain) I still don’t know how much he says and does because he thinks it’s good and how much of it is an extended piece of performance art to see how ridiculous he can get before people stop going along with it.
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There is also the subtle racism, like when he hired a bunch of Egyptian people to dig and he just watch them work. Or when the Egyptian merchant guy sing about how great the west is. It's more pronounced in the temple of doom but there is a lot of it here too.
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Jun 5, 2020 17:02
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That shows what was missing from the prequels is Steven Spielberg reeling in George's terrible ideas. George Lucas: He hasn’t seen her in twelve years. Now she’s twenty-two. It’s a real strange relationship. Steven Spielberg: She had better be older than twenty-two. George Lucas: Darth Vader is a 10 year old boy. And there's a goofy sidekick with floppy ears and a Jamaican accent. It’s a real strange relationship. Rick McCallum: Well you made Star Wars so you must know what you're doing!
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Jun 5, 2020 17:14
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Episode 1 was just mediocre, the worst offender is episode 2.. There is maybe one or two good scenes. Way too much cgi and special effect.
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Jun 5, 2020 17:20
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spielberg just coming up to the girl from poltergeist in a restaurant and saying "i wanna put you in my movie" tells me all i need to know. like what acting ability or anything can you discern from a 5 year old you see across the room she then also died from a "bowel defect" at age 12
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Jun 5, 2020 17:20
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Macasaurus posted:spielberg just coming up to the girl from poltergeist in a restaurant and saying "i wanna put you in my movie" tells me all i need to know. Eh, when you're casting for a "type" and/or someone who looks the part that type of thing happens a lot. And what in the WORLD are you trying to imply about her untimely death?
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Jun 5, 2020 17:23
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No 5 year old can act. They're all only five years old!!!
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Jun 5, 2020 17:30
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:Eh, when you're casting for a "type" and/or someone who looks the part that type of thing happens a lot.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jun 5, 2020 17:40
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christmas boots posted:Honestly with everything Lucas has said about Star Wars (even down to suggesting Darth Icky as the name of a Sith villain) I still don’t know how much he says and does because he thinks it’s good and how much of it is an extended piece of performance art to see how ridiculous he can get before people stop going along with it. George Lucas destroyed his reputation and lost all of the immense respect he had as a talented filmmaker of the most iconic sci-fi action-adventure trilogy after the Star Wars prequels, so pretty sure he didn't own anyone but actually owned himself forever.
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Jun 5, 2020 18:22
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how old was drew barrymore when lucas discovered her? and didn't she have a huge drug problem as a teen, which is really common amongst sex abuse victims?
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My Spirit Otter posted:how old was drew barrymore when lucas discovered her? and didn't she have a huge drug problem as a teen, which is really common amongst sex abuse victims? I think it's common when your mom takes you to Studio 54 when you're still in diapers
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Jun 5, 2020 18:45
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Fate of Atlantis is the best Indiana Jones story.
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Jun 5, 2020 19:07
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raiders of the lost ark is outstanding. george lucas is poo poo
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:George Lucas destroyed his reputation and lost all of the immense respect he had as a talented filmmaker of the most iconic sci-fi action-adventure trilogy after the Star Wars prequels, so pretty sure he didn't own anyone but actually owned himself forever. He created one of the biggest film franchises in history, will go down in history as a pivotal figure in the New Hollywood movement, founded Lucasfilm, which created Industrial Light and Magic (a juggernaut in the special effects industry which then founded Pixar, famous in their own right), cashed out to Disney, and retired to his custom-built 3,000 acre ranch property with a cozy net worth of $5 billion. What a self-own
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My Spirit Otter posted:how old was drew barrymore when lucas discovered her? and didn't she have a huge drug problem as a teen, which is really common amongst sex abuse victims? Drew Barrymore’s childhood is one of the most hosed up things I’ve ever read about
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Jun 5, 2020 19:38
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General Dog posted:He also brings the idea for the whip and the hat and pretty much everything else iconic in the first movie to the table though; you gotta take the good with the bad. I thought old movie serials brought those ideas.
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Jun 5, 2020 19:48
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christmas boots posted:He created one of the biggest film franchises in history, will go down in history as a pivotal figure in the New Hollywood movement, founded Lucasfilm, which created Industrial Light and Magic (a juggernaut in the special effects industry which then founded Pixar, famous in their own right), cashed out to Disney, and retired to his custom-built 3,000 acre ranch property with a cozy net worth of $5 billion. I bet you think Michael Bay is a really cool dude too.
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:I bet you think Michael Bay is a really cool dude too. I’m not a fan of his work, but he’s laughing all the way to the bank.
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Jun 5, 2020 20:14
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Rich man:Heaven::Camel:Eye of a needle
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Jun 5, 2020 20:52
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George Lucas is good actually
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Just imagine giving up the vaunted glory of being idolized by neckbeards as a great scifi guy or something, oh no
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Jun 5, 2020 21:35
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Willow was also good. George Lucas should keep making movies. I wouldn't watch them, but it'd be nice to know he's still out there doing his thing.
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Schweinhund posted:Willow was also good. He's still out there, somewhere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l08Qzz4j-I0&t=3033s
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Captain Jesus posted:Lucas is obviously the one championing this horrible idea and while Spielberg and Kasdan are not really on board, neither of the says "George, what the gently caress?". They're like "ok, interesting". The whole thing is George being a creepy pedo. I heard about those interviews on a podcast and when I was telling a person about it tried to find backing proof like that interview's transcript. While searching for that I found out the "Marion was the teen daughter of Indy's mentor" was something Karen Allen made up. With the tension being "Hey an adult in their mid twenties took advantage of a teen girl's crush. As an adult she's angry about it -and now he needs her help." George meanwhile went in with that bizarro glee of "A 17 year old and a 23 year old isn't compelling! Now a 12 year old nympho seducing an adult man, that's great storytelling!" Colonel Cancer posted:Kinda puts Anakin in a different light too huh The dude just has a thing for child sex he is somehow compelled to include in everything.
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Jun 5, 2020 22:49
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It's kind of hard to read tone through a transcript, I remember reading it a long time ago and he says some other stuff that makes it sound like he's loving around.
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General Dog posted:It's kind of hard to read tone through a transcript, I remember reading it a long time ago and he says some other stuff that makes it sound like he's loving around. Yeah, and hell that even could've been an 'inside joke' about how the internal timeline for Indiana Jones has a lot of mistakes and inconsistencies from revisions and playing very fast and loose with a ton of details that were ad-libed or just seemed cool when an actor added them. You could probably forgive and handwave away any of the weird child-sex things individually as jokes out of context or appropriate given the period and material or whatever- but when it keeps popping up it gets a lot harder, and it especially makes those jokes fall flat. The same way that you could say Lucas is some genius-level master troll who has intentionally been making everything worse with time with a wink and a nod -but it's probably more likely he was a brilliant innovator in terms of special effects, but a terrible writer who doesn't understand pacing, how to make those neat set pieces he thinks up string together, or how human interaction works but got extremely lucky with the right combination of people who tweaked his ideas and laughed at him when he had terrible dialogue early on, but then everyone kowtowed later. Coolness Averted fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jun 5, 2020 |
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Even in the interpretation that Lucas is constantly trolling, you’ve still got Harrison Ford explicitly calling him out for being poo poo at writing dialogue.
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My theory is that DePalma was in the room too just hanging out, and George wanted him to think he was cool.
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Jun 5, 2020 23:35
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im the part where he hangs onto a submarine across the ocean
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Jun 5, 2020 23:38
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Jedis in the prequel were literally a child stealing cult lol
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Colonel Cancer posted:Jedis in the prequel were literally a child stealing cult lol I think this might be old continuity but I remember that there was one Jedi who was from some endangered species or something, and he had a special license from the Council to gently caress.
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christmas boots posted:I think this might be old continuity but I remember that there was one Jedi who was from some endangered species or something, and he had a special license from the Council to gently caress. I think that's Ki Adi Mundi. The dude on the council with the giant 7ft long head.
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Jose Oquendo posted:I think that's Ki Adi Mundi. The dude on the council with the giant 7ft long head. Where do you even learn these things
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Jun 6, 2020 02:37
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Of course the dude that looks like Andy Dick gets to gently caress.
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bossy lady posted:Where do you even learn these things Up through Episode 1, I was one of those sad pathetic star wars fans that knew everything about it inside and out. And some things, like dick head jedi being the only jedi to gently caress, are things you never forget.
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Jose Oquendo posted:I think that's Ki Adi Mundi. The dude on the council with the giant 7ft long head. Yeah, he had several wives. Lucas once said Jedi in general can have sex but not form attachments which is the opposite of how human sexuality works. My head canon is that finding midichlorians led to the corruption of the Jedi. Before they had to search and find apprentices and convince them to join or potentials had to find them and they would work out how involved the family would be. Then they found a blood test, started taking kids, realized it was traumatic to reunite with parents later so kept them away, and basically made them wards of the Jedi until they are trained enough to quit (Dooku) or go do their own thing. Plus Jedi having families distracts them from their job so we should ban that too. We will leave casual sex in to let them blow off steam and keep midichlorians in the gene pool. And I will stop because I am a bad person for writing this.
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Sounds like Lucas had just read Lolita.
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Xenocides posted:And I will stop because I am a bad person for writing this. Don't worry, friend. I stopped reading your post as soon as I saw the phrase "head canon" 
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