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In case you haven't been following along: There is a class action lawsuit against the UFC about fighter pay. To defend itself, the UFC submitted paperwork that showed that they pay between 16-18% of their revenue each year to fighter pay. (This number was submitted by the UFC directly, it helps their case to show a higher %, it has stayed under 20% for the past 8 years.) NFL is around 48% of revenue to players. NBA has been between 57-49% The year before Strikeforce was bought by the UFC, Strikeforce was paying out 75%, then 63% during the year it was acquired. Jon Jones is a poo poo head, but ALL UFC fighters could have their pay doubled, and still be taking a lower percentage of revenue than all of the other popular sports. e: I don't have time to add in boxing, but if you compare UFC's top draws vs boxings top draws, UFC pay gets even worse. ee: Multiple UFC media has mentioned that no UFC fighter they have talked to has ever gotten a royalty check from the Rebook deal for merchandise sold. SA Forums Poster fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jun 8, 2020 |
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CommonShore posted:What percentage of most major league revenue goes to coaching staff? I know football coaches get paid millions, but I have no idea. I don't think I've ever heard of coaches complaining about pay.
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Jun 8, 2020 22:44
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HAHA!! In the late 1980s, a coach who led their team to the Super Bowl earned about $295,000. Now, the average coach makes about $6 million, according to Forbes. https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/02/9324843/how-much-nfl-coaches-make-salary NFL coaches in the 80's make more than 99% of UFC fighters 40 years later.
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Jun 8, 2020 22:46
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Brut posted:Royalty isn't a thing that just magically happens, it requires an actual deal in place stating that you will get royalty payments. When the Rebok deal was initial announced Dana "would I lie to you" White said 100% would go to the fighters.
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Jun 8, 2020 22:51
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmziaVk9nrE&t=117s Dana White: "The UFC won't make a dime" off of the Reebok deal. "And we are giving all the money to the fighters" "Anything that sells they are getting 20% of" SA Forums Poster fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Jun 8, 2020 |
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Jun 8, 2020 22:55
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Brut posted:I'm not a lawyer but "Dana said or implied it at a presser" is not a contract. I'm not a lawyer either, but getting paid $12,000 to fight in the biggest combat sport organization in the world is bullshit.
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Jun 8, 2020 23:00
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Brut posted:He's gonna keep being able to lie about everything as long as a large percentage of the fighters in the organization (rather than just 3-5 loud dudes on Twitter) collectively demand better deals and get it in writing. The UFC is a monopoly. They will cut you if you try to organize.
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Jun 8, 2020 23:02
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I'm not arguing with anyone, just stating that every UFC fighter is underpaid. Radical 90s Wizard posted:All this stuff about fighter pay is true, but tbh it has gently caress all to do with Jon Jones, the guy who canned an entire card when he had a tantrum. The UFC canned the card. The UFC didn't have a signed fight agreement with Jon Jones. I would blame the UFC for making these cards so weak that if a main event fighter get injured, the rest of the card is so horrible it can't continue.
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Jun 8, 2020 23:26
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UFC fans: fighters are independent contractors, if they want more money they shouldn't have signed the contract! Also UFC fans: the fighters are at fault for refusing to do things that aren't in their signed contracts!
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Jun 8, 2020 23:35
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Dana White might not be able to afford that third gold plated gun, and will have to cut back snorting cocaine to just twice a day if fighters get more money.Mr. Carlisle posted:Removed a bad joke I saw it, and it was a good joke.
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Jun 9, 2020 00:11
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This is hilarious: https://twitter.com/dilletaunt/status/1181998272358932480
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Jun 9, 2020 05:28
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pseudodragon posted:What happens to the win bonus if there’s a draw or no contest? They don't get it. If a fighter's opponent drops out of the fight, the fighter who still showed up are lucky to even get the "show" money. For example, you prepare three months for your fight paying: food, rent, transportation, training, coaches, etc. You weigh in on fight night, your opponent drops out for whatever reason (its fairly common), you get paid your $12k show money only. Vengarr posted:Contractually they don’t get it. Sometimes Dana awards it anyway though. Typically if it’s a hard-fought draw or a screwiob DQ/NC. This is another way the UFC controls fighters. If you are a good company man who never acts out or talks publicly about unions or low pay, occasionally the UFC will also pay half of the "win" bonus.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:45
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I thought it was higher, but apparently UFC still pays $10,000/$10,000 to newly signed fighters: https://twitter.com/RWeezy02/status/1271166481217306625 e: Jamahal Hill signed from Dana White's Contender Series with a TKO victory there, 6-0 record, and gets $10k/$10k SA Forums Poster fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Jun 11, 2020 |
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Jun 11, 2020 20:55
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https://twitter.com/RWeezy02/status/1272593999832940544 Payouts for Saturday's fights. That is Anthony Ivy's first fight in 9 months and made $15,500, same with Gustavo Lopez, hasn't fought in 10 months, made $15,500 total, before taxes and expenses. e: Web calculators say that they will need to pay $2,190 for social security and medicare. Plus what they pay their manager and coaches. ee: Say 10% for a manager and 20% for coaches/gym. $1,550 $3,100 $2,190 = $8,660 for 9-10 months. SA Forums Poster fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jun 15, 2020 |
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Jun 15, 2020 19:30
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CocoaNuts posted:Now I know I got played. Won't happen a second time. Game on. 
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Jun 16, 2020 20:13
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https://twitter.com/dilletaunt/status/1273058341934084102 Re: Dana White was banging a stripper, stripper's boyfriend texts Dana. Dana pretends he is a girl to escape.
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Jun 17, 2020 15:44
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Nis posted:honestly seems like a good way to get a mad boyfriend to stop texting you Its funny to me, Dana White who calls professional fighters pussies for not taking any fight at any time, and called the MMA media weak for wanting protection from Covid-19. Now Dana gets a text from a random guy and is so scared he pretends to be a woman. Got a chuckle out of me.
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Jun 17, 2020 19:30
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Brut posted:Yo this had me real confused for a minute, I thought it was the same person just literally posting the same thing he said the other day. Yeah, I'm fatherdog, AMA
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https://twitter.com/StevenRaeMMA/status/1275464687195426816 20%....
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Jun 24, 2020 02:14
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Lowtax lost a highly public boxing match. He is bad with money. He has been married/divorced 3, 4 times? Multiple children from multiple women. Accusations of physical abuse from his partners. I'm surprised Fight Island isn't more of a fan of his, he sounds like the typical UFC fighter. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jun 24, 2020 19:05
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SA Forums Poster posted:Lowtax lost a highly public boxing match. WTF Jerusalem, do you not realize that a large chunk of combat sport fighters have domestic abuse charges against them? You have made it clear that you aren't knowledgeable about MMA, but do your research. There are very good odds that you've cheered for a woman beater in the UFC before, without knowing about it. God drat, I know you have personal issues with me, but gently caress, just leave me alone on the last few days of these dead forums.
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Jun 25, 2020 15:56
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Brut posted:Your post wasn't about UFC fighters, it was about the posters of this forum, saying that we should be more of a fan of Lowtax because he's a domestic abuser. gently caress, people here thought I was seriously defending lowtax? and not making a snarky comment? e: https://twitter.com/jedigoodman/status/1275857073285324800?s=19 SA Forums Poster fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Jun 25, 2020 |
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Jun 25, 2020 16:14
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kimbo305 posted:He’s on his bicycle now, DC. Now I know I got played. Won't happen a *looks at notes* sixth time. Game on.
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Jun 25, 2020 16:20
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Brut posted:It was a snarky comment at the expense of this entire community on the subject of domestic abuse, if you just wrote the "sounds like a typical UFC figher" part without the "I'm surprised ya'll aren't a bigger fan of his" part I wouldn't give a single gently caress, you can make fun of UFC all you want. Its probably a good topic for a separate thread, but combat sports are filled with the most despicable people. Yet we have no problems being fans. Just something to think about, the UFC employs Qanon supporters, women beaters, white supremacists, and worst of all Trump advocates. Being a fan/buying PPVs/merchandise means that your money is directly going to those people. Just something to think about. It was only a sixer, I probably over-reacted, and I'll probably get another probation, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Jun 25, 2020 17:08
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piratepilates posted:the real solution is to stop the entire need for cutting weight, everything else is just patching up a hole with duct tape. Cutting weight will always happen as long as there are weight classes.
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Jun 26, 2020 19:50
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leftist heap posted:I think forcing people up a weight class if they cut too much is an OK solution TBH. When these fighters move up a weight class, you know they bulk additional muscle to compete with the other people in their division.
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Jun 26, 2020 21:45
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https://twitter.com/alexscaffidi_/status/1277041037920305152
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Jun 28, 2020 02:42
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Can we shut the gently caress up on the back seat modding and talk about how a fat guy tapped out because someone was hugging him too tightly
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I used to like DC, but then THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! THUG ROSE!! He gets a little TOO emotional for my tastes.
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