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Hollismason posted:I'm really more curious as to the Student Loan crisis, relief Biden has promised it looks really good. It really hurts at the margins though. I just skimmed through his policy page on it and it only seems to mention lowering payments for undergraduate loans and also his public service loan forgiveness reform plan absolutely screws anyone that has graduate loans. It gives $10k per year, but caps at 5 years of eligible forgiveness. Just using myself as an example, but I went to law school and accrued over $100k of debt (and my school was a public school with one of the cheaper tuitions available). I went into public service after graduating, turning down higher paying jobs, because I wanted to help and also counting on the availability of debt cancellation for public service after 10 years. I'm now already 5 years in. I've been paying on a income contingent repayment plan this whole time, as public service attorneys don't exactly make big bucks. In fact, my payment is such that I'm not actually lowering the principal of my loan at all. My loan balance is higher now after 5+ years of full time employment and on time payments than it was when I graduated. Under Biden's proposal I would (I think) immediately earn $50k of debt cancellation, still holding a near-mortgage sized bag of debt, and apparently not qualify for any of the new lower rates as those are specifically for undergraduate loans. It would loving suck for people in a similar position to me, though I do admit it would be a marked improvement for many.
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:I might be reading his plan differently, but it does not seem to change the existing public service forgiveness, just expands it - he calls the existing program broken and says he’ll make a different, simpler program, but that program is very different with different goals - so I would think they’d both work? "Make loan forgiveness work for public servants by creating a new, simple program that offers $10,000 of undergraduate or graduate student debt relief for every year of national or community service, up to five years."
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Jun 28, 2020 01:14
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If Jones holds on in Alabama, the Dems are all but guaranteed to have a Senate majority. If they are winning Alabama they almost assuredly are winning AZ, CO, ME, and NC.
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Jun 28, 2020 04:39
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Dapper_Swindler posted:this loving idiot. I'd be curious to see them break down that mental/physical stamina question. I have no worries about Biden's physical abilities, but I do about his mental faculties. With Trump both are obviously garbage.
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Jul 4, 2020 03:31
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I'm too lazy to dig it up, but I saw some polling a little while back on favorability by age cohorts. While the young are far and away Biden's best age group they didn't have super high favorability for Biden, they just hated Trump that much. Which tracks with my anecdotal experiences that younger people are MUCH more cognizant of how much of a racist/sexist piece of poo poo Trump is, whereas the older voters that don't like Trump are more upset about his tone than the underlying message.
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Jul 8, 2020 01:44
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OAquinas posted:How many distinctions do they need for the race? Petition to change Solid D to Turgid
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Jul 10, 2020 22:20
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The non voters of Texas are overwhelmingly Hispanics which Biden is winning 2 to 1 in the state. The Dems have been trying to crack the nut of voter participation in the RGV/West for an entire generation. Maybe a pandemic raging through South Texas will be enough, but it's definitely in "I'll believe it when I see it" territory.
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Jul 12, 2020 19:33
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TulliusCicero posted:I'm beginning to think this is a massive Producers scam That was his first campaign, but like The Producers the plan failed and the campaign succeeded.
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Jul 21, 2020 16:20
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I, for one, am shocked that TROOP MOM isn’t doing better in the polls.
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Jul 22, 2020 19:35
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SoggyBobcat posted:I think when it comes to Texas or other states that are going through rapid growth and demographic changes the trendline is probably more important than specific poll results. Polls might not catch just how quickly things are changing. A significant portion of the growth in the state is actually conservative. Beto won with native Texans in 2018.
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Aug 23, 2020 04:27
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Threads starting to sound an awful lot like 2012 Romney supporters.
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Sep 1, 2020 06:12
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Glad to see unskewing the polls is back baby!
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Sep 15, 2020 16:49
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Rigel posted:not legally, the idea is that to earn the write-off in later years you need real losses. People do try to claim fake losses by overstating the value that was "lost", which can bring heavy fines or jail if proven to be fraud. I’m glad we could bring some levity to this thread with some well-crafted humor.
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Sep 29, 2020 04:43
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:first off, it takes time for a case to work its way up to the SC - the aca case right now took several years to finally hit the SC - so there is a lot of value in the mean time. also overturning something like that is a red flag that makes court packing easier. With the amount of packing the Republicans have been able to do in the District and Circuit courts I have no doubt they will find ways to fast track their suits through the system.
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Oct 9, 2020 04:13
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paternity suitor posted:I think it’s worth reframing these from “leftist” to “broadly not popular” Medicare for All when framed as what it is, - free at the point of use medical, vision, dental - is exceedingly popular. Joe Biden's climate plan, even charitably read, can not seriously be said to "implement most of" the Green New Deal. I think it's worth reframing this post as "really bad."
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Oct 13, 2020 17:24
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paternity suitor posted:From an NPR/Marist poll: Yeah no poo poo when you frame it as "the plan that takes away your insurance vs. an option you can choose from" the poll numbers go down. Your original post was "lets change the framing from 'leftist' to 'not popular'" you already showed what your real intent was here. Here's a nice breakdown on dishonestly framed polling like you're claiming here: https://www.citizen.org/article/getting-the-polling-straight-on-medicare-for-all/
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Oct 13, 2020 23:48
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Rea posted:https://twitter.com/stella2020woof/status/1320739525367398400 I don't know how many times it needs to be said to out of state democrats looking to Texas chanting "demographics are destiny" but not all latinos are the same, and in fact, in Texas they are pretty conservative with a fair number of Republicans. That number isn't really all that inconsistent with previous elections in Texas. e: Apparently I left my page for a while and didn't realize it and missed this entire discussion earlier. Whoops. Pobrecito fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Oct 27, 2020 |
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Oct 27, 2020 01:21
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:even leaving aside that this wasnt the original topic, you have a missing link here. there is nothing to show that these people would have voted for Bernie. In fact given the last 4 years have been Republican-dominated, this election is a referendum on Trump and the Republicans and the fact that more Hispanics are voting R implies that those particular voters like what they see out of trump. I mean, no, we don't have a view to Universe 2 where Bernie is the candidate, but we clearly saw a huge part of his campaign was a targeted campaign of engaging with and turning out latino voters in areas that traditionally got little to no campaign contact. Not to mention that Bernie's campaign focused on providing for a lot of material needs that resonated with the latino community and Biden... doesn't. And it is incredibly reductive to just wash your hands and claim it's because they're sexists to explain underperformance vs 2016 with Latinos. Nobody is going to argue that Trump is a horrible misogynist monster, but that doesn't mean that everyone that votes for him is the same.
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Oct 31, 2020 19:54
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:We're not "writing them off", there is literal actual data to suggest that Trump's small increase among Hispanic men is due to them embracing his particular brand of toxic masculinity. There is no getting those voters back, unless you're somehow insinuating that Joe Biden should go full misogynist. Weird they seemed to respond to candidate that actually made it a priority to reach out and engage them while offering them policies that would actually help improve their lives.
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Oct 31, 2020 19:55
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eke out posted:Yes, this is most likely why Joe Biden is winning 60% of them (on the low end) and more like 70 of women. "There is no getting those voters back, unless you're somehow insinuating that Joe Biden should go full misogynist." This is what I am responding to. Nobody is denying that there may in fact be a sexist element involved, but the other posters here are the ones arguing we just throw up our hands in exasperation and write off latino men as horrible misogynists who we can't win and are forever lost to the Democrats.
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Oct 31, 2020 20:04
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illcendiary posted:The Trump effect along the border counties seriously needs some examination. Costing TX dems 250k votes This kind of thinking drives me insane and is exactly emblematic of why the Democrats did so horribly. Acting like the votes were owed to the Democrats purely because of the ethnic box you check off and no consideration of what Biden could have done better to earn those votes, it must be the "Trump effect."
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Nov 4, 2020 19:36
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I hope this isn't considered "doomposting" but it seems crazy to be as extremely confident as some of y'all seem to be about Biden having this in the bag. Yes, the trends appear to point to Biden securing a narrow victory, but that is assuming that the ratio of votes being tallied is constant which seems a little specious. I think Biden pulls it out here, but I am not all that confident in the result (especially when you throw in the potential for court fuckery). Especially when so much of the confidence in the thread is sourced from the same guys that all got the election prognostication so wrong.
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Nov 5, 2020 07:41
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Raenir Salazar posted:Bolivia? Bolivia actually had two very successful and decisive elections regardless of what the OAS wanted to say, but nah.
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Nov 5, 2020 07:44
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Majorian posted:Nothing that has happened since they made that call has suggested that it will not have been correct, early or not. Being the first to make a call with a significant percentage of the vote uncounted and an ultimate margin in the singular thousands is loving up. Just because you end up being correct in your call does not mean your process was good.
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zoux posted:If, after all this, Democrats end up with a slim trifecta, I don’t think even we will find a way to be miserable about it. I honestly wonder if Manchin doesn't flip in that scenario.
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