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Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012

plz remember that it was ~ME~ who told you that everything you like is actually really not good, because I knew all along.





El Phantasmo

https://twitter.com/Ashrnova/status/1273738120412962817

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coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Well holy poo poo on ELP

the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

What a week it's been.
So much to talk about.
And so many things we can't talk about.



Pillbug

is ELP a run of the mill dickhead or an actual predator?

I know it's kinda lovely to differentiate the two but as a survivor of assault I do think a distinction is important.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

I classed him as creep on the shitlist

Mod Edit:

Removed link due to far too many reasons to count why it was a bad idea to do something like this, also due to below quote:

coconono posted:

Yeah I’m thinking of scrapping the project all together. I’m clearly not qualified to maintain or participate like I’d originally imagined.

Somebody fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Jun 19, 2020

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012

plz remember that it was ~ME~ who told you that everything you like is actually really not good, because I knew all along.





Tyler Bate
James R Kennedy

https://twitter.com/GingerFish19/st...752860329750528

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



At this rate Thomas Santell is gonna be the only guy you can book with a clean conscience

the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

What a week it's been.
So much to talk about.
And so many things we can't talk about.



Pillbug

El Gallinero Gros posted:

At this rate Thomas Santell is gonna be the only guy you can book with a clean conscience

if something comes out about the SCHADENGRAPS boys, ZSJ or Daniel Makabe I will lose my poo poo completely

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

correct politics haver
...weed...



Yeah, good to have at least two categories imo, "Creep" and "Abuser" work, maybe "loving Rapist" if serious assault/surprise sex allegations come out

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004






Lipstick Apathy


I legitimately can't parse any of her tweets about this at all. What is she saying he did?

TomWaitsForNoMan
May 28, 2003

By Any Means Necessary


.

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008



History Comes Inside! posted:

I legitimately can't parse any of her tweets about this at all. What is she saying he did?

at most being verbally abusive

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible




https://twitter.com/AKI_Evolution/s...3083920390?s=20
https://twitter.com/AKI_Evolution/s...8170056710?s=20

Davros1 fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Jun 18, 2020

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.

History Comes Inside! posted:

I legitimately can't parse any of her tweets about this at all. What is she saying he did?

I'm having a hard time following too.

I think she's saying he took advantage of her for publicity and was a jerk when she didn't provide it?

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012

plz remember that it was ~ME~ who told you that everything you like is actually really not good, because I knew all along.





ed: oops

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

Excuse me, I'd like to
speak to the moderator




Deleted by request

Rarity fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Jun 18, 2020

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

smarxist posted:

Yeah, good to have at least two categories imo, "Creep" and "Abuser" work, maybe "loving Rapist" if serious assault/surprise sex allegations come out

I have creep and rapist right now

I will probably make more categories to make it more granular. But the point is DONOT SuPOort

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.







I'm not seeing the connection here to the others, its not accusing anything beyond trying and failing to hit on women. Is it skeevy yes but like there isnt any actual abuse even implied.

TomWaitsForNoMan
May 28, 2003

By Any Means Necessary


Rarity posted:

Godammit

I'm sorry, would you mind deleting that quote? I shouldn't have said anything sorry

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020
I LOVE SPREADING CONSPIRACY THEORIES ABOUT WOMEN

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH ME


Suede Thompson

the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

What a week it's been.
So much to talk about.
And so many things we can't talk about.



Pillbug

History Comes Inside! posted:

I legitimately can't parse any of her tweets about this at all. What is she saying he did?

it... seems like he was being a creep? not to be an rear end in a top hat but if she's going to call herself "one of the most respected pw journalist" it would be... a slightly easier read?

If she's saying ECCC harbors predators I'm wondering if anything will come out about "Ravenous" Randy Meyers who wears shirts saying "consent is sexy" and kisses people during his entrance. I've heard from multiple folks that he doesn't ask for consent beforehand.

Dino from DDT doesn't get permission before smooching people either from what I've seen; I was sat at a DDT show and he kissed the dude I was with (who, two nights later, turned out to be a loving rapist so that was sure a great way to tar my entire trip to Tokyo because what the hell are you going to do when you're in a different country and also have dealt with a "well you were drunk" from cops in the United States)

People seem to laugh it off with Danshoku Dino and idk if it's a cultural difference or what.

TTBF
Sep 14, 2005





Myers asks consent beforehand. He once came to kiss me and while I consented (nodded) I didn't explicitly say I was ok with the kiss so he passed me up. I asked him about it after the show.

e: granted that doesn't mean he didn't obtain consent other times.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012

plz remember that it was ~ME~ who told you that everything you like is actually really not good, because I knew all along.





Adrian "Lionheart" McCallum
https://twitter.com/GingerFish19/st...756700370243585

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

correct politics haver
...weed...


this is a lot of extra work but you might want to copy/paste a snap of the tweets/accusations you're linking in the doc cuz many accounts might deactivate/lock or delete them

if you can just copy/paste right into the cell next to it and have the image chill there, that'd probably work (or an imgur link)

edit:
also if the person has a big enough fanbase, sometimes they can mass report the victim into being suspended, love twitter/the algorithm

smarxist fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jun 18, 2020

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

BROTHER I WANT YOU TO JOIN THE DSA AND SUBSCRIBE TO THE AWARD WINNING WWE NETWORK FOR ONLY $9.99 A MONTH


Lid posted:

I'm not seeing the connection here to the others, its not accusing anything beyond trying and failing to hit on women. Is it skeevy yes but like there isnt any actual abuse even implied.
Yeah Tyler is known for cheating, definitely needs called out before it gets worse imo

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

Excuse me, I'd like to
speak to the moderator




TomWaitsForNoMan posted:

I'm sorry, would you mind deleting that quote? I shouldn't have said anything sorry

Of course, done

sportsgenius86
Jun 17, 2008

THE STREAK IS OVER




I feel like this Jeff dude’s heart is in the right place but equating guys trying to hook up with his wife with actual abuse and sexual assault is really not helping anyone here.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you


I just saw the thing about Cornette’s wife as well.... I feel like that’s the sort of thing that would have come out or been hinted at before, has it been?

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

triplexpac posted:

I just saw the thing about Cornette’s wife as well.... I feel like that’s the sort of thing that would have come out or been hinted at before, has it been?

It's been an "open secret" for many years but nothing has ever come of it

TomWaitsForNoMan
May 28, 2003

By Any Means Necessary


Rarity posted:

Of course, done

Thank you. I hope it all comes out one day but other than privately warning my friends about that person I don't feel comfortable putting it out in public under my own name w/o actual first hand witnesses saying something first.

TTBF
Sep 14, 2005





triplexpac posted:

I just saw the thing about Cornette’s wife as well.... I feel like that’s the sort of thing that would have come out or been hinted at before, has it been?

Someone might want to check that old geocities/angelfire Filth List.

e: Maybe Jim's wife is the rat that Jericho and Lance wouldn't gently caress.

the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

What a week it's been.
So much to talk about.
And so many things we can't talk about.



Pillbug

sportsgenius86 posted:

I feel like this Jeff dude’s heart is in the right place but equating guys trying to hook up with his wife with actual abuse and sexual assault is really not helping anyone here.

I'm super uncomfortable with it, to be honest. Does it suck? Yes. Does hitting on people equate as assault? Absolutely not. I mentioned one of my experiences just a few posts ago and there's no loving way I would compare it to the time a wrestler tried for it and went "oh. k" when it didn't work. Being extra pushy after the no, sure, but run of the mill hitting on? 4/5ths of the world would be cancelled.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

D U S T M A N


triplexpac posted:

I just saw the thing about Cornette’s wife as well.... I feel like that’s the sort of thing that would have come out or been hinted at before, has it been?

Joey Janela has definitely alluded to it in the past

Pylons
Mar 16, 2009


triplexpac posted:

I just saw the thing about Cornette’s wife as well.... I feel like that’s the sort of thing that would have come out or been hinted at before, has it been?

Bruce Prichard has alluded to it on his podcast, apparently.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

No wonder wife was so friendly to me.

Joey McChrist
Aug 8, 2005

I'M VINCENT KENNEDY MCMAHONDROID DAMMIT




yeah the ovw hot tub parties were always an open rumor. it was mostly handwaved off as "swinging" for the longest time

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003

Get running
Start pumping your bunions, I'm coming
I'm the dumbest, who flamethrow your function to Funyons
Flame your crew quicker than Trump fucks his youngest
Now face the flame fuckers your fame and fate's done with



Brandon Stroud got his start pretending to be a woman, so I'm not really shocked he's a creeper.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

correct politics haver
...weed...


the escape goat posted:

I'm super uncomfortable with it, to be honest. Does it suck? Yes. Does hitting on people equate as assault? Absolutely not. I mentioned one of my experiences just a few posts ago and there's no loving way I would compare it to the time a wrestler tried for it and went "oh. k" when it didn't work. Being extra pushy after the no, sure, but run of the mill hitting on? 4/5ths of the world would be cancelled.

the public used to be really dumb about this but obviously the past few years have sharpened everyone up a tick, so, someone who only has stories about maybe being an aggressive flirt or trying to hit on other people's women will typically just skate on by but be known as the assholes they are

then again, there are a lot of instances where people knowingly abuse a disparity in power dynamics to take something from another person and nobody but the person who gets taken from and a few "woke" people acknowledge is a type of abuse, like in general wrestlers should probably avoid interaction with fans beyond photos and chats, but good luck telling any famous performer that

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020
I LOVE SPREADING CONSPIRACY THEORIES ABOUT WOMEN

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH ME


You now have to think - "how many of Cornette's grudges stem from that individual refusing to eat out his wife?"

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012

plz remember that it was ~ME~ who told you that everything you like is actually really not good, because I knew all along.





Another one against Joey Ryan
https://twitter.com/ExposeWrestling...761997595836416

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.






sportsgenius86 posted:

I feel like this Jeff dude’s heart is in the right place but equating guys trying to hook up with his wife with actual abuse and sexual assault is really not helping anyone here.

Not helped by Lionheart is sacred in BritWres and also you know died relatively recently. Its one of those reaches that can undercut the entire argument.

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