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Hirez
Feb 3, 2003

Weber scored 49 points?



Jordan7hm posted:

Yeah this is bizarre. How can someone think this would make them look good.

remember when that lowtax holding a lady hostage video came out; he probably thought the same

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Seams
Feb 3, 2005


looking forward to his next video “Let Me Be Quack”

Eat My Fuc
May 29, 2007

Qu'ils mangent de la baise!


One of the best things I ever saw a veteran tell trainees was kenny omega telling a school he was visiting "we're not going to do bumps because we're not being paid so why the gently caress would we be taking bumps" and he proceeded to show them hammerlock transitions and I watched every student improve over the hour he spent with them.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.



Yeah, I have no idea if that video is still online anywhere but it was pretty great. Mainly Wrestlepro guys, Nick Stapp and I think Statlander were in it

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

GET BACK UP

Eat My Fuc posted:

One of the best things I ever saw a veteran tell trainees was kenny omega telling a school he was visiting "we're not going to do bumps because we're not being paid so why the gently caress would we be taking bumps" and he proceeded to show them hammerlock transitions and I watched every student improve over the hour he spent with them.

Probably the best advice he could give them.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


Seams posted:

looking forward to his next video “Let Me Be Quack”



For a further example of why that video is so fake, people have said it was Quack himself who was the one using the word re***d about his "friend" Steve The Turtle. Takes some balls to cry about something you are acting like only other people did when you did it.

Zombie Lemur
Jul 6, 2009

Empyrean empties


STAC Goat posted:

A bunch of my friends in college loved a song called "Baby Raper" so loving much.

I gradually grew apart from them.

Lost Prophets fans, eh?

In all seriousness, I grew up in the country around a bunch of dirtbags and even the scummiest of the bunch didn't use "surprise sex" in the context of wanting to hook up with someone. It would get used to mean beaten at something or ripped off, which is still lovely, but never in the context Sammy used it.

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020
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MassRafTer posted:



For a further example of why that video is so fake, people have said it was Quack himself who was the one using the word re***d about his "friend" Steve The Turtle. Takes some balls to cry about something you are acting like only other people did when you did it.

And another reminder that he fired his "friend"

https://twitter.com/ZacharySnow0/st...843501683625991

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.


Who was it he made sleep on the couch when she hosed up his coffee?

Huntman
Apr 22, 2010

ANXIOUS MILLENNIAL COWBOY



Pinche Rudo posted:

Throw Solo Darling in the dumpster too. She's coming out defending Quack. There is nothing in that video that comes anywhere close to qualifying as "real"

https://twitter.com/SoloDarling/sta...907469659389952

What's even more garbage about Solo defending this is the story about Travis Huckabee, Solo's CHIKARA tag team partner, in the comments. I think a guy Solo used to valet for, Andy Baker, was accused too. To see her defend Quack is really disheartening.

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020
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Luigi Thirty posted:

Who was it he made sleep on the couch when she hosed up his coffee?

He made his wife sleep on the couch after she told her friends that he was Darkness Crabtree

Psychepath
Apr 30, 2003


Was there ever a conclusion to Condron/Jervis and the accusations against him a few months back? He's still tweeting saying it was identity theft to mostly praise in his replies.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


Psychepath posted:

Was there ever a conclusion to Condron/Jervis and the accusations against him a few months back? He's still tweeting saying it was identity theft to mostly praise in his replies.

Given that he won't address the accusations of emotionally manipulating people with claims of being suicidal and other lovely behavior his story doesn't seem to check out.

Huntman
Apr 22, 2010

ANXIOUS MILLENNIAL COWBOY



Psychepath posted:

Was there ever a conclusion to Condron/Jervis and the accusations against him a few months back? He's still tweeting saying it was identity theft to mostly praise in his replies.

I also seem to recall people poking holes through his story that he never addressed either.

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

King of the Pirates?




Huntman posted:

I also seem to recall people poking holes through his story that he never addressed either.
He expected people to believe that even though he is an active Reddit mod online almost every day that somehow his FB and Twitter were hacked for over a year and being used by some kid who didn't even follow wrestling to harass women. He claimed to have filed a police report, which should be the easiest way to call him out

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020
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UK wrestlers are looking to unionize under Equity

https://ukff.com/topic/140889-wrest...comment-3329868

quote:

What I do know at this point is that Equity are holding a meeting with several female wrestlers tonight, and have spoken to wrestlers they have a pre-existing relationship with in order to best facilitate that, and to ensure the right people are being represented. My understanding is that it will be the first of several meetings, and that Equity are taking all of this very seriously, and looking to further include wrestling in their existing Safe Space and anti-harassment policies. Equity reps at the meeting will include parliamentary liaisons, lawyers specialising in harassment and abuse in the entertainment industry, and long-standing Equity members with experience of tackling harassment in other entertainment fields.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


RealFoxy posted:

He expected people to believe that even though he is an active Reddit mod online almost every day that somehow his FB and Twitter were hacked for over a year and being used by some kid who didn't even follow wrestling to harass women. He claimed to have filed a police report, which should be the easiest way to call him out

He claims he was not hacked his identity was merely stolen when I asked why he was daring to promote his show based on speaking out. He was very insistent he wasn't hacked!

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.




MorrisBae posted:

UK wrestlers are looking to unionize under Equity

https://ukff.com/topic/140889-wrest...comment-3329868

This sets part of my mind at ease. I was really scared that David Starr turning out to be a shitebag was going to derail the whole union idea.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

Excuse me, I'd like to
speak to the moderator


MorrisBae posted:

UK wrestlers are looking to unionize under Equity

https://ukff.com/topic/140889-wrest...comment-3329868

Stanfield
Feb 2, 2008

...Can we have the radio?


MorrisBae posted:

UK wrestlers are looking to unionize under Equity

https://ukff.com/topic/140889-wrest...comment-3329868

Smoking Crow
Feb 13, 2012

*laughs at u*


MorrisBae posted:

UK wrestlers are looking to unionize under Equity

https://ukff.com/topic/140889-wrest...comment-3329868

if nxt uk continues, it will be interesting how wwe responds to this

The Croc
Dec 19, 2004

A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird!

OH YEAH!



Smoking Crow posted:

if nxt uk continues, it will be interesting how wwe responds to this

They will just close it down the whole thing is just a spite brand anyway and the reason it was created died long ago (that WOS reboot)

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

GET BACK UP

Lamuella posted:

This sets part of my mind at ease. I was really scared that David Starr turning out to be a shitebag was going to derail the whole union idea.

The irony if this gets a union off the ground. gently caress Starr.

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020
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Pro Wrestling: EVE and World of Sport already started working with Equity in the past couple years, but it flew under the radar

https://www.evewrestling.com/equity/

https://www.sescoops.com/world-of-s...h-equity-union/

MorrisBae fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Jun 28, 2020

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.




Gumball Gumption posted:

The irony if this gets a union off the ground. gently caress Starr.

gently caress Starr. gently caress the entire cohort of guys on the left who think that knowing what class consciousness means gives them carte blanche to be abusive fuckwipes.

MorrisBae posted:

Pro Wrestling: EVE and World of Sport already starting working with Equity in the past couple years, but it flew under the radar

https://www.evewrestling.com/equity/

https://www.sescoops.com/world-of-s...h-equity-union/

I knew Eve had, I didn't know about World Of Sport, but good for them.

Riot Cabaret (who managed to form just in time to lock down and not hold a show) did an open source version of their Equity-agreed code of conduct:

https://twitter.com/RiotCabaret/sta...706675749507073

Lamuella fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Jun 28, 2020

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

GET BACK UP

Lamuella posted:

gently caress Starr. gently caress the entire cohort of guys on the left who think that knowing what class consciousness means gives them carte blanche to be abusive fuckwipes.

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020
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Lamuella posted:

gently caress the entire cohort of guys on the left who think that knowing what class consciousness means gives them carte blanche to be abusive fuckwipes.

I wouldn't classify those people as "leftists" at all

It's misrepresenting yourself to satisfy ulterior motives

Has nothing to do with politics - criminals are going to deceive to reach their goals

It's like how on the right people become preachers to sucker their congregation into giving them money - they don't believe half the poo poo they say

So yeah - Identity Politics is the soapbox of the left, Religion is the soapbox of the right. Both can be abused.

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Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

Excuse me, I'd like to
speak to the moderator


MorrisBae posted:

Identity Politics is the soapbox of the left, Religion is the soapbox of the right

The gently caress is this?

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012

plz remember that it was ~ME~ who told you that everything you like is actually really not good, because I knew all along.






yikes

Not a good month for you

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020
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Rarity posted:

The gently caress is this?

Liberal thought is worthless when used as a grift under Capitalism

Starr's a grifter who got caught

Pylons
Mar 16, 2009


... What does what Starr did have to do with capitalism?

JUNGLE BOY
Sep 22, 2019





MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020
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Pylons posted:

... What does what Starr did have to do with capitalism?

He's no different than a politician presenting a false facade to profit off the deception

Capitalism allows such opportunists to exist

Holding both a Public Opinion and Private Opinion is the mantra of all Capitalists, left and right

They can all pound sand

Don't lump David Starr in with actual leftists who care, is all I'm saying - he's a fraud, plain and simple

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

Excuse me, I'd like to
speak to the moderator


MorrisBae posted:

He's no different than a politician presenting a false facade to profit off the deception

Capitalism allows such opportunists to exist

Holding both a Public Opinion and Private Opinion is the mantra of all Capitalists, left and right

They can all pound sand

Don't lump David Starr in with actual leftists who care, is all I'm saying - he's a fraud, plain and simple

You're point of 'gently caress David Starr' is fine but dear god is your messaging terrible

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.



The entire "actual leftist" thing is a problem. David Starr DOES have leftist politics. They probably weren't some con to help him be an abuser. He just happens to ALSO be an abuser. The two aren't linked but they're also not mutually exclusive.

Once you start thinking your side is "pure" you blind yourself to the problems inherent in any large group and open the group up to being abused or harboring abusers. Its ok to say some leftists are bad people. It doesn't take away from the politics, it enhances your ability to stand for what is important and not make excuses for assholes.

Which has nothing to say about that problematic "identity politics" swipe.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008



a little bit off the sides

Pylons
Mar 16, 2009


MorrisBae posted:

He's no different than a politician presenting a false facade to profit off the deception

Capitalism allows such opportunists to exist

Holding both a Public Opinion and Private Opinion is the mantra of all Capitalists, left and right

They can all pound sand

Don't lump David Starr in with actual leftists who care, is all I'm saying - he's a fraud, plain and simple

Predators can exist in both capitalist and socialist spaces/societies. The framework of capitalism makes it easier for those abusers and predators to hide and inflict their abuse on their victims, but you can't assume that every leftist that gets outed as an abuser/predator was actually not a leftist all along because that's how they hide in the first place.

DM Punk
Aug 24, 2004


Not a huge fan of reading an economic debate in a thread about bad people in wrestling.

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020
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STAC Goat posted:

The entire "actual leftist" thing is a problem. David Starr DOES have leftist politics. They probably weren't some con to help him be an abuser. He just happens to ALSO be an abuser. The two aren't linked but they're also not mutually exclusive.

Once you start thinking your side is "pure" you blind yourself to the problems inherent in any large group and open the group up to being abused or harboring abusers. Its ok to say some leftists are bad people. It doesn't take away from the politics, it enhances your ability to stand for what is important and not make excuses for assholes.

DSA (which Starr is a member of) isn't "actual leftist" politics, but that's an argument for another forum - it's a movement trying to reform the Capital-supporting Democratic Party. Socialists and Communists would rather the Democratic Party die entirely.

And yeah I agree that people can support a movement and be bad people. Starr using politics to improve his own image/hide his demons is not universal to him.

I would never defend someone being an rear end in a top hat, even if they were part of a movement I supported.

I'll gently caress off back to CSPAM with the politics. If you ever want to talk burning down the establishment, we're always open



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TTBF
Sep 14, 2005





Would you be willing to just gently caress off in general?

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