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So the U.K. parliament has rendered a decision, following an enquiry after the “metro allegations. It included some pro wrestlers on the committee, providing real world examples. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/apr/08/mps-say-wrestling-is-a-sport-in-training-schools-but-shows-are-theatre?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other It’s a sport when you’re in training, but theatre when the show starts... I kind of get the idea behind it, but Jesus Christ lads, come down on one side or the other...
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It's about the legal ramifications. Classing schools as a sport means they have to follow UK safeguarding law but classing the shows as sport would have their own set of legal ramifications that wouldn't be possible with what pro wrestling is (like it being illegal to fix results)
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Rarity posted:It's about the legal ramifications. Classing schools as a sport means they have to follow UK safeguarding law but classing the shows as sport would have their own set of legal ramifications that wouldn't be possible with what pro wrestling is (like it being illegal to fix results) Yeah, and also, this is kinda one of the best decisions they could have come up with, because 'sport when you're training and theatre when you're performing' is basically what professional wrestling is really
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Yeah, this is about as good a hybrid decision as you could get in terms of safeguarding.
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Jerusalem posted:Also putting aside all the obvious reasons for how monstrous that tweet is, the guy in that scene Joey is likening himself to literally sets up a webcam to secretly film this girl naked and share the video with his friends.
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Red is Dead posted:So the U.K. parliament has rendered a decision, following an enquiry after the “metro allegations. It included some pro wrestlers on the committee, providing real world examples. Its worth clarifying what exactly this is: since its not really "parliament rendering a decision" and while its an important development I've seen its importance be exaggerated. There was an all-party parliamentary group for Pro Wrestling formed a couple of years ago now: an APPG is an informal group featuring MPs from across parliament that have a common area of interest: there are All-Party groups representing Christianity or Humanism or Homelessness or a litany of areas. They don't have a formal legislative purpose: their role is to commission research on areas where Parliament could legislate on a certain area and to advocate for the interests of that community - a few years ago there was a scandal involving people involved with an APPG taking money from companies in that area and concern about the groups potentially being used to subvert lobbying rules and while that doesn't seem to be the case for the Pro Wrestling group it is worth keeping in mind that one of the main purposes of this group is to lobby in favour of the industry within Parliament. The report makes some very sensible policy suggestions: there's one where they mention bringing the Health and Safety Executive in to set minimum standards when it comes to safety of things like rings and other core parts of wrestling which are very logical, as would having a standard construction listed in the BSI that promoters had to follow. The stuff about shows being considered entertainment while training is sport is important because the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill (which is mostly terrible and shouldn't pass) extends the duty of care provision when it comes to consent and sex to sports coaches and that would be the easiest way to protect young people from abuse - often these weird things that sound contradictory have legal purpose behind them. Also if it was designed as a sport they'd probably have to have some sort of licensing body like boxing and MMA have and, well look at my first point: that'd be expensive to promoters and this is a group designed to represent their interests. They also mention that the scene is incredibly divided and that you realistically need unity in order to get real change but, well, good luck with that one unless a lot of people go out of business. There are some negative parts to this: it doesn't really go into Speaking Out in any real detail (and in fact certain people with allegations against them are mentioned in a positive light in this thing); WWE weren't involved and I suspect they'd fight being subject to any additional restrictions and I don't know how viable a lot of the recommendations are. The next step relies on either the Government or Parliament to act - and realistically it has to be the former since Private Members Bills (legislation not initiated by the government but instead by a backbench MP) have an incredibly low chance of passing even if they are on something that's very popular since some arsehole Tory MP would probably filibuster them. I could see the government providing support on some of the technical changes that they suggest: things that would already be possible under current laws such as the HSE/BSI stuff on rings mentioned above: that's as simple as getting some civil servants to put together a standard probably with consultation from people in the industry. The fundamental issue though is that is as far as I think they'd go: anything that requires actual legislation would need the support of Government and I don't know how likely they are to legislate on stuff designed to protect an industry that's, well, not that went regarded in the general public. The Minister for Sport put out a "we welcome the report and want a strong wrestling industry" statement that they put out for everything but until I see actions I would suspect that this is as far as things are going. The other fundamental issue is the WWE thing: they would oppose anything that restricts them and would lobby against it and I suspect that lobbying would be incredibly successful at stopping any major change. Tl;dr: the report is important but I don't think you can take it as being a sign of there being any real change and other than the change currently going through Parliament I suspect you'll not see any new legislation.
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I guess this goes here? https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1382027049855029254 https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1382074707248345094
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Jiro posted:Goodamn Gaetz is gonna just take a lot of people down with him isn't he? Republicans: DRAIN THE SWAMP!! Also Republicans: Oh poo poo, the swamp was ours...
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Jiro posted:Goodamn Gaetz is gonna just take a lot of people down with him isn't he?
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Jiro posted:Goodamn Gaetz is gonna just take Florida down with him isn't he? Fixed.
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Joey Ryan has been running his mouth on twitter and it seems like he had no idea that Pelle had receipts he was going to wreck him with in court. https://twitter.com/primeau31/status/1383957497015242752 https://twitter.com/primeau31/status/1383954611577389057 https://twitter.com/primeau31/status/1383953762943836164 NSFW https://twitter.com/primeau31/status/1383957763504492560 https://twitter.com/primeau31/status/1383958859945897993 MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Apr 19, 2021 |
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Apr 19, 2021 02:39
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Not gonna lie - don't love the potential collateral damage caused by those receipts. Kind of grossed out by it.
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Memnaelar posted:Not gonna lie - don't love the potential collateral damage caused by those receipts. Kind of grossed out by it. Joey Ryan filed lawsuits claiming these do not exist and continues to claim he never did any of the things in those receipts. He's tried to ruin people's lives and get away saying he never did any of the things in those screenshots. Pelle showed enormous restraint not posting any of them before now.
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Apr 19, 2021 03:40
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MassRafTer posted:Joey Ryan filed lawsuits claiming these do not exist and continues to claim he never did any of the things in those receipts. He's tried to ruin people's lives and get away saying he never did any of the things in those screenshots. Pelle showed enormous restraint not posting any of them before now. Pretty sure I can't think of a single good reason to spill the Veda stuff.
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Edit: Removing this since it's better explained later.
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Apr 19, 2021 03:48
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Man, I don’t know, sure seems like Pelle spilling everything RE: Veda at this moment got cleared: https://twitter.com/primeau31/status/1383967621620518912?s=21
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Edit: I'm going to remove this post because I don't want to seem like I am speaking for anyone.
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Apr 19, 2021 04:08
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Fair enough, I guess. Obviously Joey Ryan’s a gross piece of poo poo, so any evidence of that is going to be gross and lovely. Edit: Actually, no, after watching the video that includes a Re-recording of a Roy Orbison song to be about Joey Ryan and a PSA not to sync your iPhone backups to the PC of the person you’re cheating on, I’m back to being not comfortable with how this all came out. Lead Pipe Cinch fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Apr 19, 2021 |
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What customs when it's mentioned with Candace?
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TV Zombie posted:What customs when it's mentioned with Candace? They’re private wrestling matches filmed for perverts.
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Wait, how does Veda figure into any of this?
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rantmo posted:Wait, how does Veda figure into any of this? https://twitter.com/JoeyRyanOnline/status/1383948737341366273 MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Apr 19, 2021 |
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TV Zombie posted:What customs when it's mentioned with Candace?
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Trust me, Pelle did not want to go there. He's made a point of keeping her name out of it as much as humanly possible. As for the provenance of the texts, he explains it in the video he linked to on his Google Drive, which he had initially shared with some people privately weeks ago (he mentions this being the case in the video, to boot): She did her iPhone backups to his computer, with full knowledge of what she was doing, even as she was cheating on him. Could Pelle have just started with the Facebook and Instagram screenshots about the engagement and held off on the texts? Yeah. But it probably would have escalated regardless, and once Joey threw down the gauntlet...
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It's a weird transition from "I'm sure she gave him these emails and consented to his airing this dirty laundry" to "she used to back up her phone to his PC eight years ago so she basically consented to having this stuff aired out years later." This isn't helping him win a lawsuit. The lawsuit's dismissed (albeit without prejudice) and any attorney worth their salt would tell him not to be trying to win his case on social media. He's airing her indiscretions with Joey out for a Twitter beef and even tossing out her shoot name. I don't have a dog in the fight, so I'll leave it at that and not engage any further with folks who think "Pelle had no other choice! He tried his best to keep her out of it!" Maybe that's his perspective, but it sucks all around. Even without the receipts, he himself makes the absolutely correct point that nobody in their right mind would believe Joey over him in the first place so... then why?
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Memnaelar posted:It's a weird transition from "I'm sure she gave him these emails and consented to his airing this dirty laundry" to "she used to back up her phone to his PC eight years ago so she basically consented to having this stuff aired out years later." That's a fine place to leave that aspect of it. I don't want to make it sound like I am speaking for Pelle since I am not, I'll edit my previous posts since I think they come off too strong.
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Man I know Veda personally, and this made me extremely uncomfortable. What she decides to do with her personal life is her loving business and frankly it should have stayed private. If it was such an issue for the guy who posted it, then he should have waited for it in the court of law, and not the court of public opinion. Like for fucks sakes, what did that accomplish?
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Pelle's life has more or less been ruined, at least in the short term, for daring to call out a sexual predator. That doesn't make the social media battle a good idea, but I'm sure the guy is in a super lovely place right now mentally.
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This whole situation is a mess. Gross.
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Everything posted has been purged now, was it just Joey Ryan sleeping with Veda Scott?
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RealFoxy posted:Everything posted has been purged now, was it just Joey Ryan sleeping with Veda Scott? It was Joey sexting and saying stuff like he would like to date rape her to flirt, and screenshots of social media posts he'd liked that showed she was engaged (he claimed he didn't know) and a bonus text he sent Pelle that was really racist. Joey keeps claiming he's the good guy and that none of the claims are true, but he clearly lied about the claims in his lawsuit against Pelle. Somewhat related but Christina Von Errie popped up to support Joey last night. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Apr 19, 2021 |
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Not 100% sure who that is, though I've heard the name, but she and her spouse sure seem like a pair of antimask freaks https://twitter.com/smacwrestling/status/1383510400390418436?s=19
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MassRafTer posted:
Yikes. She dropped off the face of the earth after she stopped wearing her hair in a mohawk. Sucks that this is the first I've heard about her in years
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Qoey posted:Yikes. She dropped off the face of the earth after she stopped wearing her hair in a mohawk. Sucks that this is the first I've heard about her in years. But I find it impossible to hear her name without thinking of the food stamps mess.
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davidbix posted:But I find it impossible to hear her name without thinking of the food stamps mess. Dare I ask?
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Dawgstar posted:Dare I ask? Jesse Neal was also a navy veteran who legitimately saw war. quote:Neal served in the United States Navy from 1998 to 2002,[5] reaching the rank of petty officer 3rd Class[3] and was on board USS Cole, when it was suicide bombed on October 12, 2000.[6][7] Neal has a tattoo on his right forearm of the initials of his best friend, who was killed in the attack.[6][7] After the attack Neal was diagnosed with posttraumatic stress disorder and spent over a year on shore duty before finishing his four year stint with the Navy in 2002. So the combination of being the employed by both the Navy and the second largest wrestling promotion, lead to them qualifying for food stamps. They were both getting paid less than minimum wage. The same era where Hogan & Friends got paid millions to come in and ruin the company.
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