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RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

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Barudak posted:

On a related note, Im not sure any game has ever gotten me more invested on going on an insane, galaxy spanning suicide sojurn than "Kharak is burning". You've got this massive sand planet burning in the background as you scramble to move these absolutely massive sheets of machinery containing the last of your people into your mothership before you leave it behind forever and then get repeatedly dwarfed the whole way to a new home.

That said the expansions subtle entire game build up to "This is the warship Kuun-Lan" is such a great capstone to a narrative arc that other games/films/books/tv shows/epic poems wish they could make good on.

For nearly the entire game Fleet Intelligence reads his lines very passively and coolly, except for when he's reading off the damage they can see; the voice actor chokes slightly and is quieter.

He's back to impassive and cool when he mentions that the alien soldier they captured didn't survive the interrogation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjjANMCYm9o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1ahWObI37w

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twistedmentat posted:

I have to get props for Lucas having Palpatine's plan being really clever; create a crisis that causes one of the few major military powers in the galaxy to rise up, continue to feed that crisis so more and more factions join together. Then use your public position to respond to the crisis you've created and get an army of completely loyal soldiers AND put your mortal enemies in control until the right time. He destroys anyone who could challenge him, both the Jedi and the forces that made up the Confederacy, gets the best apprentice out of it and can rule with what can be argued to be a legal mandate.

He could have had Palpatine win because the heroes are idiots, but actually put some thought into it.

I mean, the heroes are pretty stupid too, p so that helped

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Isn't this Roko's Basilisk

No, I think it's The Sims

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Speaking of post-apocalyptic games, a little moment in Armored Core For Answer that you have to go as far out of your way as possible to see is almost getting shot down by a satellite cannon. The premise for the endgame in For Answer is that you can either divert power from flying orbital habitats to ground based anti-satellite cannons to maybe clear the way to space to leave the dying Earth (while simultaneously forcing the habitats down, which are currently using the last bits of energy and resources on the planet to sustain and will eventually finish the human race off with the rest of the planet, one way or the other). Low Earth Orbit is saturated with tens of thousands of military satellites shooting at anything that leaves the surface as well as rival company satellites whenever their orbits cross.

One mission early on is to defend one such habitat that's under attack. If you go back into the level in new game+ (or really know how to build your mech), you can fly straight up from the flying habitat and you start to see streaks of light - you're being targeted and your handler immediately freaks out, ordering you to lower altitude before the unknown force makes you; this is the only time in the game you ever see the satellites and your handler has no clue they're even there. Supposedly in a later level towards the end you can see the streaks of light horizontally as two swarms of satellites crash into each other as well.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Post-apocalyptic views of the present in general are interesting. Fallout doesn't play with it much, but FNV does mention that most Pre-War literature is incomprehensible to post-war people presumably just from lacking context, though ignorance tends to be a function of lacking education rather than a widespread problem, given well-educated people generally have a decent idea of pre-War history, and there's various individuals still surviving from that era. (mainly robots, ghouls, and individuals like Mr House. And the protagonist of Fallout 4, which is a fun idea that's probably not really used to its full potential)

One of my favorite little things that 3, NV, and 4 don't dwell on but make pretty clear is that the world was about five minutes from solving the problems that led to the resource wars that killed the planet (though that also wouldn't have stopped anyone)

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Arcsquad12 posted:

At least the Vaygr are still alien. And they have the best looking ships and the best theme music.

Makaan's pretty clearly a dude

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Bug Squash posted:

The human system failed. So would have any automated system. The Trisolarans were throwing intelligent protons at Earth. There would simply be no way to automate a defence when you couldn't predict what an attack looked like (nevermind the eventual false positive).

Earth was doomed from the start. Their advanced technology wasn't even their greatest advantage. They were capable of a resolve far greater than mankind. When Earth was discovered the entire planets resources were dedicated to a one shot hundreds year long plan to conquer it. When we had a gun to their head, all they needed to do was wait for the hand to waiver, regardless of how long it took.

Seems pretty dumb of humanity to not pull the trigger immediately anyway then

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Jun 1, 2021

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Arcsquad12 posted:

I dont think people have an issue with Robotech itself. Robotech is fine and the Macross stuff comes across pretty well. The anger is mainly directed at Harmony Gold for being The Worst.

It's pretty impressive how many things they hosed up or with, isn't it?

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Arcsquad12 posted:

I only know about the Macross/Robotech and the Battletech fuckups what else is in there?

They got designs from a whole mess of shows, not just Macross

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