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CocoaNuts
Jun 12, 2020
Do you subscribe to the "can't win if you don't buy" philosophy, or are you in the camp that believes "my odds of getting hit by lightning are higher, so trying to win the Powerball is flushing money down the toilet"?

I don't buy tickets for the mega-lotteries, but I occasionally plunk down some dough for charitable lotteries where the odds are better and you could win a new home or some subsidiary prizes. Have never been lucky enough to win though.

Have you ever known anyone who's won a substantial sum, say $1 million or more?

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A Grand Egg
Jan 12, 2020

by Pragmatica
Lottery tickets are for old people over 65 years old

Or hi-vis vest wearers who go to the TAB have lovely conservative views but still do meth occasionally

Fartington Butts
Jan 21, 2007


I won like $2 off of a $1 scratcher once. Never bothered to redeem it.

Never bought a lottery ticket though. I think part of it is the resentment of being behind people at 7-Eleven that are buying them.

CocoaNuts
Jun 12, 2020

A Grand Egg posted:

Lottery tickets are for old people over 65 years old

Or hi-vis vest wearers who go to the TAB have lovely conservative views but still do meth occasionally


There are quite a few workplaces where employees pool their money weekly and purchase multiple tickets, committing to dividing any winnings. So that broadens the range quite a bit.

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins
I knew somebody who won $10,000,000 after the lump sum. They lived a few houses down from us. Their house was nicer than ours, obviously. Their mom kept getting arrested for shoplifting vodka and getting drunk in the bathroom of the Kroger. They rescued abused dogs so I always thought they were pretty cool.

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

Winning the lottery is almost guaranteed to ruin your life in a horrible catastrophic way

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

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The_Continental posted:

Winning the lottery is almost guaranteed to ruin your life in a horrible catastrophic way

This is bullshit that poor people tell themselves so they can momentarily feel better about their squalid conditions.

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

In the 20'ish years of being an adult, I think I've probably dropped, pfff, MAYBE somewhere around $100 on lottery tickets of all kinds scratch/draw tickets? Something like that?

Once in a blue moon if I'm paying cash I grab a $2 scratch off, and I've gotten in on office pools at work when the drawings get large. I don't actually remember the last time I've done either, though, so that $100 is a real rough ballpark.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

If the powerball is over a hundred million I buy one ticket

Brother Tadger
Feb 15, 2012

I'm accidentally a suicide bomber!

Nigmaetcetera posted:

This is bullshit that poor people tell themselves so they can momentarily feel better about their squalid conditions.

I read a piece in a psychology journal that analyzed the outcomes of lottery winners over the decades and the end consensus was basically “if you were good at saving money before, you’ll probably be judicious with your winnings. If you aren’t, well, you’ll leave a beautiful corpse.”

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

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1redflag posted:

I read a piece in a psychology journal that analyzed the outcomes of lottery winners over the decades and the end consensus was basically “if you were good at saving money before, you’ll probably be judicious with your winnings. If you aren’t, well, you’ll leave a beautiful corpse.”

I guess I only knew the former type of lottery winners. You know, with all their problems.

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

Nigmaetcetera posted:

This is bullshit that poor people tell themselves so they can momentarily feel better about their squalid conditions.

I mean, you can look it up. There aren't a whole lot of happy stories from lottery winners. I'm not saying that having money ruins your life. But suddenly winning a large sum of it tends to have a negative effect.

Lord Decimus Barnacle
Jun 25, 2005


Hell Gem
I love the thrill of comparing my wrong numbers to the winning numbers. How many other games let you compare wrong numbers to right numbers? Not many right?

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

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The_Continental posted:

I mean, you can look it up. There aren't a whole lot of happy stories from lottery winners. I'm not saying that having money ruins your life. But suddenly winning a large sum of it tends to have a negative effect.

Yeah if you don’t immediately hire a financial advisor, which everybody who can afford one should have, and should be the first thing winners pay for, maybe even before paying their debts.

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

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Dear Watson posted:

I love the thrill of comparing my wrong numbers to the winning numbers. How many other games let you compare wrong numbers to right numbers? Not many right?

Keno
Bingo
Probably a bunch of Asian games I don’t know how to play

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




When I worked in a call center and was underpaid and hated my life, yeah I bought lottery tickets when the pots got over $100 million or if I was having an especially lovely day.

For the past four years, I've had a job that I love and pays well and sometimes when it's a record breaking jackpot, I think, "I should buy a ticket," and then it just slips my mind.

So in summary;

miserable = buys lottery tickets
not miserable = doesn't even think about it

Lord Decimus Barnacle
Jun 25, 2005


Hell Gem
Out of all of the number comparing games, I'd rather lotto than bingo

A Concrete Divider
Jan 20, 2012

The Unbearable Whiteness of Eating
I went to pick up a pizza, it wasn’t ready, went next door spent $1 on a scratch off. Won $60.

My grandpa just died and on Christmas 2019 he bought me 5 $1 scratch offs and my haul was $504.

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

There was some record powerball back in like 2013 or so, and I had a roommate who spent over $100 on tickets. I was trying to explain to him that statistically he didn't have a better chance of winning with 1 ticket vs. 100. But he was just insistent that he had 100X more chance of winning and was therefore a smart person. He didn't win, and I purchased a $100 bottle of scotch to celebrate and did not share with him.

A Concrete Divider
Jan 20, 2012

The Unbearable Whiteness of Eating

The_Continental posted:

There was some record powerball back in like 2013 or so, and I had a roommate who spent over $100 on tickets. I was trying to explain to him that statistically he didn't have a better chance of winning with 1 ticket vs. 100. But he was just insistent that he had 100X more chance of winning and was therefore a smart person. He didn't win, and I purchased a $100 bottle of scotch to celebrate and did not share with him.

You seem p fun

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

I'm actually a real mushroom. I just didn't like that housemate very much.

Classon Ave. Robot
Oct 7, 2019

by Athanatos
My secret shame is that I spend $2 twice a week ($4/week total, there's a draw for both of them on wednesday and saturday) on the two smallest jackpot lottos we have in this province. One of them is a 1/3,921,225 chance at winning half a million dollars and one of them is a 1/13,983,816 chance at winning 2 million dollars. My chances of winning may be miniscule but my chances of being financially secure at any point in my life are just as small, and an extra $208/year will not make any difference.

One time I won $750, that was nice. I've always been good at saving money and not wasting it on poo poo so I'm not too worried about things going bad if I suddenly had a lot of money.

Classon Ave. Robot fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jun 20, 2020

Darth Brooks
Jan 15, 2005

I do not wear this mask to protect me. I wear it to protect you from me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DGNZnfKYnU

Seriously. Lose and your out the twenty bucks you spent (times 52 weeks times 30 to 50 years, probably) Win and you really screw up your life.

its all nice on rice
Nov 12, 2006

Sweet, Salty Goodness.



Buglord
My parents played the lottery, and I tend to do the opposite of what they did, so no, OP. I do not.

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins
I guess the answer is not very often, no.

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

Heres a cool video about why winning the lottery is a bad deal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GCO9k1FKaE

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
I'm so certain that winning the lottery would only affect me positively.

Sooooo certain..


Cmon god's sense of irony cmon.

CocoaNuts
Jun 12, 2020

The_Continental posted:

Heres a cool video about why winning the lottery is a bad deal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GCO9k1FKaE

I like this comment:


1 out of 4 drivers die texting while driving
People: Not gonna be me
1 out of 350,000,00 chance of winning lottery
People: you never know

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.


I buy a scratcher sometimes because its right next to the dining area at the chinese grocery store, and eating a huge 6 dollar container filled with beef chow fun makes me overconfident

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

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The_Continental posted:

Heres a cool video about why winning the lottery is a bad deal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GCO9k1FKaE

You are never going to convince anyone that free money is bad. You can use psychology, statistics, theology, it absolutely doesn’t matter, free money is FREE MONEY.

roomforthetuna
Mar 22, 2005

I don't need to know anything about virii! My CUSTOM PROGRAM keeps me protected! It's not like they'll try to come in through the Internet or something!

CocoaNuts posted:

1 out of 4 drivers die texting while driving
This might be my new favorite pseudo-statistic.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Really if you think about it, stealing lottery tickets might be the smartest idea ever. Outsource all the risk and gain all the rewards!

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
No i went to college, op

CocoaNuts
Jun 12, 2020

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

No i went to college, op

Well, if I won the lottery, Iona College! So there!

;)

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

Nigmaetcetera posted:

You are never going to convince anyone that free money is bad. You can use psychology, statistics, theology, it absolutely doesn’t matter, free money is FREE MONEY.

Yeah but its not even free. Its money earned from gambling. Most people that play lotto tend to be from lower income brackets and play weekly if not daily. I worked at a CVS pharmacy that sold scratchers and would get people spending $50/day on the things. They also would know which days they were being restocked, and when new scratch games were being released. Whats pretty telling is the amount of people that end up gambling with their winnings. Many lotto winners continue to play the lotto even after they hit a jackpot. Its about giving people a little something to hope for. The frightening reality is that on the minuscule chance you win, the thing you were hoping for ends up being catastrophic and life-ruining.

At its best the lotto is an incredibly regressive taxation system, at its worst its a decentralized state casino you can play in gas stations, grocery stores, and bodegas.

To answer OPs question I play a little bar Keno once in a while.

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

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The_Continental posted:

Yeah but its not even free. Its money earned from gambling. Most people that play lotto tend to be from lower income brackets and play weekly if not daily. I worked at a CVS pharmacy that sold scratchers and would get people spending $50/day on the things. They also would know which days they were being restocked, and when new scratch games were being released. Whats pretty telling is the amount of people that end up gambling with their winnings. Many lotto winners continue to play the lotto even after they hit a jackpot. Its about giving people a little something to hope for. The frightening reality is that on the minuscule chance you win, the thing you were hoping for ends up being catastrophic and life-ruining.

At its best the lotto is an incredibly regressive taxation system, at its worst its a decentralized state casino you can play in gas stations, grocery stores, and bodegas.

To answer OPs question I play a little bar Keno once in a while.

That’s all well and good but I know a for-real lottery winner so nothing you said matters.

Classon Ave. Robot
Oct 7, 2019

by Athanatos
I like how all the lotto winner sad stories are about people who got hosed over by their friends and family or don't know how to handle money and waste it on stupid poo poo.

I don't have any friends or family to come murder me for my money, and I don't even want anything particularly flashy in life. The only material wants I have are to not have to worry about money anymore and to live somewhere with nice weather until the famines start.

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

Nigmaetcetera posted:

That’s all well and good but I know a for-real lottery winner so nothing you said matters.

How did it work out for them?

edit: Oh sorry thats the lady who kept getting arrested for shoplifting vodka?

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Id but a 10000 dollar dildo if I won a lottery

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Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

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The_Continental posted:

How did it work out for them?

They’re far wealthier than I will ever be, and the wife will never have to apologize for her alcoholism like I’ve been forced to do numerous times.

Sometimes money does fix your money problems, I know, fuckin’ weird.

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