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Frog Act posted:I guess for algorithms indecorous speech is indistinguishable from actual threats or something i challenged it, a real person supposedly reviewed it and it was upheld
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Gumball Gumption posted:Sure and that's why I think the first thing he needs to do is a better apology that actually explains how he's better. People are going to make mistakes and a zero tolerance approach isn't really tenable because mistakes happen. But they should only happen once. If the dude can explain why it was a mistake, what the problem was, and what he has done to make sure it doesn't happen again than I'm a lot more likely to believe the mistake isn't going to happen again. Combine that with how he's run TFR and that would make me believe it won't happen again and really was a one time gently caress up with really bad judgement. Agreed. It’s awkward and painful to make that kind of apology. But the alternative (ignore it and try to ‘move on’, or ban anyone who brings it up) doesn’t work, you’re just delaying the pain and multiplying it. People will continue to ask “what the gently caress??” and this isn’t a small enough issue to be forgotten over time. Silence doesn’t help anyone in the long run.
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Quetzadilla posted:I'm not caught up on the thread but if the "well-cited" racist screed Cyrano was applauding was about black-on-black violence you would (I hope) be much less inclined to carry water for him, which you should seriously reflect on. Trying to defend Cyrano on this for any reason means you are AT BEST terminally inclined to defend your modmin pals which is how this whole shitshow began, but it also seems likely that you just plain do not understand what's so virulently offensive and toxic about the screed in question.  where he didn't say he agreed with the Islamophobia but was saying "great job citing your sources" in this academic way which was (I'm guessing) a naive attempt to regulate politics over there. That might work in academia because things rise or fall because of their sources but it doesn't work on the forums and allows Islamophobia to perpetuate itself -- it's complicity. And that can lead to real harm. No argument there. I'm not a liberal. Now what's the immediate, practical relevancy of that question now when the Islamophobes have since been purged and TFR restructured to have gun threads tracking racism and fascism in the gun industry? Probably the only gun forum on the entire internet that does that. All the other ones are moderated by fascists.Fly Molo posted:in cases like this, I can see why an accused mod/admin wouldn’t engage with what they consider (wrongly) to be a “lynch mob”, but there needs to be better communication and dialogue rather than silence, silence, quitting the forums altogether. that doesn’t benefit anyone, and that unresponsive pattern is one of the basic reasons why things keep
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oxsnard posted:so is the tashilicious permaban good? Weren't they part of the BnR team? They were but they were removed the same day the allegations were posted.
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oxsnard posted:so is the tashilicious permaban good? Weren't they part of the BnR team? Yes it is, tash is a sexpest
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1) Bring back fyad, make it a sub of cspam 2) make every regular fyader a mod of fyad 3) wait approximately 3.14 seconds before everyone goes mad with power 4) everyone banned after the inevitable meltdown, except arf, who couldn't even find the mod buttons because we was busy making funny GIFs.
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Antifa Poltergeist posted:1) Bring back fyad, make it a sub of cspam
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Dreylad posted:i don't think it's really great to keep dredging up where people used to post, but I probably feel that way because I was stuck with forums cancer (which is hilarious in retrospect) for a while after lf closed fair but also a bunch of tfr people showing up to say 'we already knew about the baby blowjob and islamophobia posts jeez move on' is funny so maybe helldump is good and delete qcs im just spitballing
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Giga Gaia posted:fair but also a bunch of tfr people showing up to say 'we already knew about the baby blowjob and islamophobia posts jeez move on' is funny so maybe helldump is good and delete qcs im just spitballing lol I didn't pick up on that because I don't know tfr regulars. what a wild ride it's been.
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Antifa Poltergeist posted:1) Bring back fyad, make it a sub of cspam Dustcat posted:bring back two fyads and randomly assign every exfyad to one of them and the red team can moderate blue fyad and vice versa dex_sda posted:fyad but everyone has ik buttons actually sounds p. fun BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Posting thunderdome. I unironically support doing some version of this and think it would be funny as hell
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Dustcat posted:bring back two fyads and randomly assign every exfyad to one of them and the red team can moderate blue fyad and vice versa
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smarxist posted:good thing they got rid of the sex pest, now they just gotta get rid of the other sex weirds and the admin who likes to scream at people to commit suicide and maybe it won't meltdown in the most predictably boring way possible lol You'd really think given your famous ouster that you would not want to continuously invoke that period of your posting career but you can't seem to resist.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:You'd really think given your famous ouster that you would not want to continuously invoke that period of your posting career but you can't seem to resist. weird, it's almost like i can post about w/e the gently caress i want or something
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smarxist posted:weird, it's almost like i can post about w/e the gently caress i want or something 
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i've been doing lots of curls because i will slam that loving door
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smarxist posted:weird, it's almost like i can post about w/e the gently caress i want or something Oh my, I see it hasn't scabbed over just yet. Still a very sore spot for you. It's just like... you know... you didn't exactly ride into the sunset not looking like a disgruntled person with his foot jammed so far down his throat that he could wipe his rear end and put on his socks with the same motion so (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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i choose to post about it because the staff over there are fake assholes who spread a bunch of bullshit about me after i left and said jack gently caress about it for months to the point that i still get harassed here, and two of them have jumped unbidden into my direct messages to start poo poo with me in the last week i don't really give a poo poo what those frauds or their flunkies think of literally anything
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shut the gently caress up about offsite drama lmfao this site has plenty enough homegrown
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dex_sda posted:shut the gently caress up about offsite drama lmfao At least argue using simpsons memes.
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Gumball Gumption posted:At least argue using simpsons memes. 
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dex_sda posted:shut the gently caress up about offsite drama lmfao Gumball Gumption posted:At least argue using simpsons memes.
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smarxist posted:i choose to post about it because the staff over there are fake assholes who spread a bunch of bullshit about me after i left and said jack gently caress about it for months to the point that i still get harassed here, and two of them have jumped unbidden into my direct messages to start poo poo with me in the last week 
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Dreylad posted:the more people talk about offsite drama the more pathetic it sounds on both sides
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the voice cast has real uncanny valley vibes these days because hardly anyone can still hit the voices right. Otto sounds like Tom Waits
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:it's complicity. And that can lead to real harm. No argument there. I'm not a liberal. Now what's the immediate, practical relevancy of that question now when the Islamophobes have since been purged and TFR restructured to have gun threads tracking racism and fascism in the gun industry? Probably the only gun forum on the entire internet that does that. All the other ones are moderated by fascists. Taking your arguments at face value, it sounds to me like TFR's miraculous reformation happened in spite of, not because of, Cyrano's willingness to allow disingenuous phrenology posts on his forum. Also idk why that ever required admin buttons. Also if the problem is already solved, idk why Cyrano needs buttons at all anymore. You don't need powers to track fascism in the gun industry. But most of all, I especially don't know why you feel compelled to defend him.
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smarxist posted:the voice cast has real uncanny valley vibes these days because hardly anyone can still hit the voices right. Otto sounds like Tom Waits
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i don't blame them for getting old i blame the show for still being on for 25 years after it stopped being good
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smarxist posted:i choose to post about it because the staff over there are fake assholes who spread a bunch of bullshit about me after i left and said jack gently caress about it for months to the point that i still get harassed here, and two of them have jumped unbidden into my direct messages to start poo poo with me in the last week https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QvNZVbPzBo
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i think of demons posted:harry shearer is a 76 year old man. glad he's still getting a regular fat paycheck so he can focus on his passion: complaining about the army corps of engineers. safe clean too cheap to meter
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Fly Molo posted:also the grimes episode is crack-ping: the episode, it’s amazing. Frank Grimes is an amazingly dark and wonderful episode. Despite being written by a right wing libertarian, it's a perfect look at the failures of capitalism and the exploitation of honest labor by the system that the writer worships. Those already integrated into the system and safe from it, like Homer and Bart (respectively members of the bourgeois and, in this episode, the land owning classes), are immune from the changes and challenges presented by hard work and toil. Men like Grimes, who do not own property, who are not protected by their bosses, are subject to every disgrace imaginable, despite believing in a Randian dream in which hard work is rewarded.  The collision between how Grimes believes the world ought to work, and how it actually works, results in his *Crack* *Ping*, and, because he is not the capitalist superman he thought he was, he dies accidentally by his own hand. In a different system, Grimes would have been rewarded by the collective for his hard work, and would live the life of an honest worker, rather than striving to impress Burns, and being discarded at his whim. A Good Episode.
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