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Hopkins FBI posted:Taintrunner is an unhinged rear end in a top hat but blaming every C-SPAM poster for any problem you see is insane.
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Hopkins FBI posted:Taintrunner is an unhinged rear end in a top hat but blaming every C-SPAM poster for any problem you see is insane. When CSPAM keeps having unhinged assholes come out of that subforum to abuse people for having a different view than them then yes that subforum does have some responsibility in the matter. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sep 28, 2020 07:31
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Sep 28, 2020 07:32
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Mekchu posted:When CSPAM keeps having unhinged assholes come out of that subforum to abuse people for having a different view than them then yes that subforum does have some responsibility in the matter. How do you feel about gatekeeping weirdos? I post in the NZ election thread in c-spam. Am I now apparently partially responsible for the actions of others that post there?
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Sep 28, 2020 07:37
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Vagabundo posted:How do you feel about gatekeeping weirdos? I was speaking in the sense of the general culture of the subforum and not ascribing blame to specific posters. If anything the blame in that sense would be on the moderation team for letting a toxic environment to persist and spill out onto others. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Sep 28, 2020 |
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Sep 28, 2020 07:39
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Vagabundo posted:How do you feel about gatekeeping weirdos? you are if you're exporting your c-spam culture to here. edit: personally i don't think you are exporting c-spam because i would have noticed. Shayna Baszler fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Sep 28, 2020 |
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Sep 28, 2020 07:40
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Mekchu posted:When CSPAM keeps having unhinged assholes come out of that subforum to abuse people for having a different view than them then yes that subforum does have some responsibility in the matter. Except that the people who are the worst offenders are all as reviled in CSPAM as they are in the rest of the forums so I'm curious what you want CSPAM to do about these poo poo-and-run trashposters.
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Sep 28, 2020 07:42
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:Except that the people who are the worst offenders are all as reviled in CSPAM as they are in the rest of the forums so I'm curious what you want CSPAM to do about these poo poo-and-run trashposters. try not being a bunch of psychos (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sep 28, 2020 07:53
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:Except that the people who are the worst offenders are all as reviled in CSPAM as they are in the rest of the forums so I'm curious what you want CSPAM to do about these poo poo-and-run trashposters. Well for one, make the posting and discussion culture one that people don't feel they have a moral right to go around making heinous accusations. Given that this was the case here. I'd also argue that if those people are so reviled by CSPAM why arent the CSPM community moderators doing anything to stop that behavior from being normalized for that poster. Also rushing in to dogpile people for disagreeing with said reviled poster does not seem to imply that said reviled poster is actually reviled. But posting cliques do exist so there's more leeway on that point admittedly. Nome of this discussion is new given D&D has at least had a few instances of CPAM mentality spilling into there so if its happening elsewhere and shares the same starting point its hard for me to understand how the CSPAM subforum holds no accountability and it is crazy to say it does. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Sep 28, 2020 |
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Sep 28, 2020 07:58
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Seth Rollins posted:try not being a bunch of psychos So tell me, should it be acceptable to portray every single person who posts in a certain subforum as having a mental disorder? If not, then why are you doing it right here? E: Also in general and not pertaining to the current case about Taintrunner, it's pretty weird that "someone made an accusation about someone else that would reflect really badly on their character" is apparently being treated as reason for punishment in itself without any consideration of whether there's any merit in the accusation or not. Like, we literally had a guy who was a paid propagandist for the genocidal regime of Saudi Arabia, and people kept punished for calling him out for quite a while. IMO we shouldn't go back to repeating the mistakes of the past here. Cerebral Bore fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Sep 28, 2020 |
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Sep 28, 2020 08:00
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Cerebral Bore posted:So tell me, should it be acceptable to portray every single person who posts in a certain subforum as having a mental disorder? If not, then why are you doing it right here? i dunno, guy with two identical c-spam gang tags. maybe it should be acceptable.
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Sep 28, 2020 08:02
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Seth Rollins posted:i dunno, guy with two identical c-spam gang tags. maybe it should be acceptable. This is personal, mud-slinging bullshit, and it's undermining your point.
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Cerebral Bore posted:So tell me, should it be acceptable to portray every single person who posts in a certain subforum as having a mental disorder? If not, then why are you doing it right here? The person who got banned was making blanket accusations of people being racists/neo-nazis so I think the argument youre trying to make here falls a wee bit flat given that context.
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Sep 28, 2020 08:04
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Seth Rollins posted:i dunno, guy with two identical c-spam gang tags. maybe it should be acceptable. Look at the pot calling the kettle black here.
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Sep 28, 2020 08:05
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Power Windows posted:This is personal, mud-slinging bullshit, and it's undermining your point. i'm posting in a professional wrestling forum and i don't care
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Sep 28, 2020 08:05
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Whether there's any merit or not to the things people are saying about C-SPAM I don't see what anyone expects to achieve by complaining it here in a thread specifically about the Fight Island community.
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Sep 28, 2020 08:08
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Cerebral Bore posted:E: Also in general and not pertaining to the current case about Taintrunner, it's pretty weird that "someone made an accusation about someone else that would reflect really badly on their character" is apparently being treated as reason for punishment in itself without any consideration of whether there's any merit in the accusation or not. Like, we literally had a guy who was a paid propagandist for the genocidal regime of Saudi Arabia, and people kept punished for calling him out for quite a while. IMO we shouldn't go back to repeating the mistakes of the past here. Luckily this isn't an "in general" thing at all, lol. WTF are you talking about? "Without any consideration"?? gently caress's sake
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Sep 28, 2020 08:09
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If you're not going to be constructive, gently caress off. The rest of us don't want to see Us vs Them nonsense grudges over various subforums or cliques.
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Sep 28, 2020 08:10
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Mekchu posted:The person who got banned was making blanket accusations of people being racists/neo-nazis so I think the argument youre trying to make here falls a wee bit flat given that context. Well, that's the thing in my second point. I'm not saying that he was right, but the idea wasn't even entertained before punishment was called for. What if we get another Mel Mudkiper situation one day with some neo-nazi who's good at not explicitly giving the game away? Also this is besides the point, but someone being racist or white supremacist is a lot more complicated than "is this guy a literal klansman or not". Racism isn't some inherent personal characteristic, it's a system of oppression and one could very well support white supremacy without even realizing it. These things are better left up to people who aren't abrasive assholes, though.
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Sep 28, 2020 08:11
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Cerebral Bore posted:lmao @ taint for going off in the fake fights forums of all places, but that still was a bullshit probe so free taintrunner
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Sep 28, 2020 08:11
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c-spam sucked when Zyla and her poo poo crew tried to take over the AEW gameday threads, and it still sucks today. i'm scott steiner and this is my debate speech.
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Sep 28, 2020 08:12
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Zyla's pronouns are she/her
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Sep 28, 2020 08:13
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Please get the cspam obsession out of your heads pals.
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Me and all my friends: It sucks to be called genocide advocates because we don't want to talk about Joe Biden in the wrestling twitter thread. Cerebral Bore in this thread: Shouldn't we wait and see if the people accused of this disgusting poo poo can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they don't actually harbor these thoughts? Taintrunner sux tho for real for real Cerebral Bore in other threads: taintrunner is a godly king and the mods are gay gently caress you dude (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sep 28, 2020 08:14
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racism being a system of oppression means i can call anybody and everybody a nazi. im smart
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Sep 28, 2020 08:15
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Cerebral Bore posted:Please get the cspam obsession out of your heads pals. you're an rear end clown
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Sep 28, 2020 08:15
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If you want to debate the merits on whether supporting Joe Biden makes you a white supremacist then you're welcome to go some over to cspam. For the record I agree that a month+ban for being an abrasive rear end is way overblown, though. Either throw him a day or if you don't think that guy can fit in at all just do a rovert and forumban him.
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Cerebral Bore posted:If you want to debate the merits on whether supporting Joe Biden makes you a white supremacist then you're welcome to go some over to cspam. i don't want to fuckin debate any politics at all which is why i stay out of c-spam and why i don't want c-spam in here, you idiot
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Sep 28, 2020 08:20
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Cerebral Bore posted:Please get the cspam obsession out of your heads pals. Please get the c-spam out of your brain, decidedly not-pal
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Sep 28, 2020 08:21
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i think calling people advocates of iraqi genocide because of dwayne johnson tweet is a bit more than being 'abrasive'
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Sep 28, 2020 08:22
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Blanket statements calling people racists: bad Blanket statements unironically accusing people of being mentally ill: cool and good
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Sep 28, 2020 08:22
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Power Windows posted:Blanket statements calling people racists: bad i guess you aren't sure if the racist accusations were sincere (aka unironic) or not
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Sep 28, 2020 08:25
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He was a loving troll, does it matter if he's being sincere?
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And more realtalk, some crank yelling at you that you're a white supremacist when you aren't on internet comedy forums isn't actually some grievous insult. Like, do you think that even a single person would look at a Taintrunner post and then conclude that this guy is the authority on the issue? What can be actually harmful though is people being afraid to call out white supremacy when they see it, and that's what slamming someone with the max punishment you can get short of a perma could actually do. E: And I've said my piece so I'mma bow out. Cerebral Bore fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Sep 28, 2020 |
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Sep 28, 2020 08:26
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Mekchu posted:I dont read the wrestling threads but if you need an IK in a pinch feel free to PM me ot hit me on any of the discords you see me on. Yeah, bad posters are bad and that should be the end of that, I didn't need the social media thread derail to spill over again
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Cerebral Bore posted:And more realtalk, some crank yelling at you that you're a white supremacist when you aren't on internet comedy forums isn't actually some grievous insult. Like, do you think that even a single person would look at a Taintrunner post and then conclude that this guy is the authority on the issue? bye
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Cerebral Bore posted:And more realtalk, some crank yelling at you that you're a white supremacist when you aren't on internet comedy forums isn't actually some grievous insult. Like, do you think that even a single person would look at a Taintrunner post and then conclude that this guy is the authority on the issue? girl. bye.
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The myth of CSPAM and it's posters has so far outstripped what actually goes on there that it's frankly kind of astonishing.
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RealFoxy posted:Can this be redeemed now to give this whole topic a sixer because it's beyond the scope of giving forum feedback and people are just bickering. I'm at work but i can see what can be done.
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