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Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013



Grimey Drawer

All in one day.

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lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015



warhammer651 posted:

Well, started playing this and managed to get to day 16 Where I got white night, triggered his transformation out of curiosity, and now I'm stuck with White Night

Am I justified in resetting to day 1?

If you can survive working with it long enough to get its gear you should do that before you reset

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

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I was just casually playing when I noticed this which amused me.

Sinner Sandwich
Oct 13, 2012


jimmydalad posted:

I was just casually playing when I noticed this which amused me.



Charlotte knows what's up.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011



jimmydalad posted:

I was just casually playing when I noticed this which amused me.



Glad Charlotte has something to look forward to.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015



Sinner Sandwich posted:

It loving ruled. Related to Wedge Office (mechanics, not story) I'm struggling to figure out what the best use of Oscar's page and the cards you get from him are. Should I be focusing on trying to keep up my Light and keep cranking out 3-light pages, or do the usual affair of keeping a few Wait Up!'s handy? Maybe two Wait Up!'s, two of his zero-cost attack cards, some of the 2-cost draw pages, and the rest as 3 cost's? I have no idea how viable that would be.

I think if you try to bring Wait Ups along with his new 0 costs you're going to spend most of your time looking at hands full of nothing but 0 costs. You probably want to copy them and use higher cost light generating cards like Clean Up or his girls' 3 cost to keep yourself in business and just sneak out High-speed Stabs as one-sided attacks or to completely mulch anyone who's staggered.

Maybe something like this on Oscar's page? (barely tested, might suck!)


With three Clean Ups I was sitting on a lot of light without anything to spend it on.

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

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Fun fact: Charlotte was my first unit to get Justice 4 from the Mirror so she has a special place in my heart. She also is the unit that got the repression boost from the Crumbling armour and I managed to get her to Justice 5 via mirror again. She is a god and I can boost her temperance to 5 via LOB.

I wish I could post this in the LP thread, but it spoils the effect of Crumbling Armour and Clouded Monkís EGO Suit. I guess thatís what optimism is in Lobotomy Corp.

Mirror and Heart of Aspiration are my favourite tool abnormalities. You canít go wrong with them.

jimmydalad fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Jun 29, 2020

PlasticAutomaton
Nov 12, 2016

Artoria Pendonut



Yeah once you actually know Heart's gimmick it's one of the few tools that just won't kill your entire facility if you grab it at the right time. I just have one of my agents with Laetitia's shotgun grab it before the dawn shows up for the day.

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

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I actually just stick it on one of my super employees that have 5 in every stat at the beginning of the day and then never worry about it. One less thing to worry about melting down is heaven.

SaffronKit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.


Oh hey, a thread finally got made! Back to day 14 myself and have some old friends and new friends already. Highlights include P. Bird and 1.76 as my first two picks, along with Theresia who actually is the extremely perfect for pairing with 1.76 for justice training.

Picked up Graves of Cherry Blossoms and Scorched Girl as my new friends, along with Forsaken (for Fort training and breaching) and Skin Prophecy as a new tool. Two duds aside from new gear and Forsaken pretty much makes me happy with my Intel department this run.

Open up training, and I get Schadenfreude as my first abnormality AGAIN and I'm okay with that (MOAR JUSTICE!!!). New friends followed with Beauty and Beast (dud, more teth equipment I guess) and Parasite Tree as my first WAW of the playthrough and man, wish I had gotten this rear end in a top hat over Naked Nest. More WAW gear, not the worst gimmick and an actual attachment trainer! Holy poo poo! You Must Be Happy as my tool, now I'm set to start getting past day 20 and see how far I can get. Wish me luck!

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

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SaffronKit posted:

Oh hey, a thread finally got made! Back to day 14 myself and have some old friends and new friends already. Highlights include P. Bird and 1.76 as my first two picks, along with Theresia who actually is the extremely perfect for pairing with 1.76 for justice training.

Picked up Graves of Cherry Blossoms and Scorched Girl as my new friends, along with Forsaken (for Fort training and breaching) and Skin Prophecy as a new tool. Two duds aside from new gear and Forsaken pretty much makes me happy with my Intel department this run.

Open up training, and I get Schadenfreude as my first abnormality AGAIN and I'm okay with that (MOAR JUSTICE!!!). New friends followed with Beauty and Beast (dud, more teth equipment I guess) and Parasite Tree as my first WAW of the playthrough and man, wish I had gotten this rear end in a top hat over Naked Nest. More WAW gear, not the worst gimmick and an actual attachment trainer! Holy poo poo! You Must Be Happy as my tool, now I'm set to start getting past day 20 and see how far I can get. Wish me luck!

How do you use Theresia with 1.76? Iím aware Theresia has SP regen abilities but I basically refuse to touch mine cause Iíve had 1 too many bad experiences with employees going crazy because I forgot I set them to work on it during a meltdown.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.


Oh, gently caress me, the button changes appearance.

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

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Also, I did some looking and I managed to luck into the only abnormalities that give Pale weapons minus White Knight. I also have a million melee weapons while my best ranged weapons are Laetitiaís and then the Wall Gazer weapon. Also I have chainsaws.

TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

As you can see, he's kept immobile within his containment cell at all times, and we had no breaches whatsoever yesterday! It was a perfect day!


jimmydalad posted:

How do you use Theresia with 1.76? Iím aware Theresia has SP regen abilities but I basically refuse to touch mine cause Iíve had 1 too many bad experiences with employees going crazy because I forgot I set them to work on it during a meltdown.

Theresia restores SP to the department while being played, so you use it to ensure the agent working 1.76 doesnít go crazy.

Just have to be out of there before 30 seconds pass, or else...

SaffronKit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.


jimmydalad posted:

How do you use Theresia with 1.76? Iím aware Theresia has SP regen abilities but I basically refuse to touch mine cause Iíve had 1 too many bad experiences with employees going crazy because I forgot I set them to work on it during a meltdown.

TeeQueue already answered pretty well, but if you're lucky enough to have 1.76 and Theresia in the same hall way you can situate the agent you want to train with 1.76 in that hallway, and just bounce back and forth between the two. Or if you're feeling spicy, you can send a level 1 agent into 1.76 and have another agent hovering by to use Theresia for a tick or two of SP healing to ensure that they get maximum training without ever having to worry about going crazy.

Kind of wish I had Theresia in the same department as Parasite tree, cause then I could give 0 shits who I send in to work that basterd.

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

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Unfortunately for me, Theresia is in the same department as All-Around Helper, Schadenfreude and Judgement Bird, who deal red and pale damage so Iím pretty much poo poo out of luck in that respect .

If only I placed it in my training facility with Laetitia, Clouded Monk and Woodsman.

Tylana
May 5, 2011



Pillbug

SaffronKit posted:

TeeQueue already answered pretty well, but if you're lucky enough to have 1.76 and Theresia in the same hall way you can situate the agent you want to train with 1.76 in that hallway, and just bounce back and forth between the two. Or if you're feeling spicy, you can send a level 1 agent into 1.76 and have another agent hovering by to use Theresia for a tick or two of SP healing to ensure that they get maximum training without ever having to worry about going crazy.

Kind of wish I had Theresia in the same department as Parasite tree, cause then I could give 0 shits who I send in to work that basterd.

Doesn't the Tree kill The people as they turn into saplings?

Speaking of the Tree, did anyone else work out the trick with it and the Red Shoes on their own? Clicking on possessed people to make them stand still I had completely blanked on it being a mechanic at all until I looked it up for the Shoes.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.


Tylana posted:

Doesn't the Tree kill The people as they turn into saplings?

Speaking of the Tree, did anyone else work out the trick with it and the Red Shoes on their own? Clicking on possessed people to make them stand still I had completely blanked on it being a mechanic at all until I looked it up for the Shoes.

Either the story or the Managerial Tips spell it pretty clearly. The tree catches clerks as well, so if you're lucky you get a couple of warning shots before you lose real people.

SaffronKit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.


Tylana posted:

Doesn't the Tree kill The people as they turn into saplings?

Speaking of the Tree, did anyone else work out the trick with it and the Red Shoes on their own? Clicking on possessed people to make them stand still I had completely blanked on it being a mechanic at all until I looked it up for the Shoes.

Tree only instakills people after it has given its blessing to 5 different individuals (these can be clerks too). Working the tree with someone who already has the blessing does nothing bad to the agent in question and doesn't add a bulb to the tree. 5 blessings aka 5 bulbs = those affected by the blessing turn into saplings. The kicker is if you complete work on 5 other abnormalities without working tree, it automatically summons an unblessed agent/clerk to it for a blessing.

As long as you understand this, Parasite Tree can be used to train Temperance, Prudence AND Fortitude. The only thing it can't train is Justice and that's what I've got ol' Schad for. It is an annoying in that you need to balance using it vs other ab's for training purposes but overall not the worst!

MagicBoots
Mar 29, 2010

How about we pump the atmosphere full of methane?
You put me on Cargo handling optimization?! I am the premier defense specialist in the entirety of the UN!
Don't you dare pull my funding!
You can't cut back on funding!
You will regret this!

I ended up with Theresia in the same hall as CENSORED which was very useful.

Also do clerk executions count for Queen of Hatred's gimmick? Can I be the evil that gives her existence meaning? I also have the monk who doesn't like it when clerks die but doesn't mind executions, otherwise I'd feed clerks to the Flesh Lantern once a meltdown.

MagicBoots fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Jun 29, 2020

OOrochi
Jan 19, 2017


Tylana posted:

Speaking of the Tree, did anyone else work out the trick with it and the Red Shoes on their own?

Oh what? I knew I could do it for the shoes, but it felt like it didnít work for the tree. Iíll have to try it again since thatíd make it so much less annoying.

Tylana
May 5, 2011



Pillbug

I was more wondering about why Theresia matters for the tree, but I guess if you can send in sufficently weedy agents due to regen that's nice.

OOrochi : Only works on when it wants visitors, I think. Not the other bit.

TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

As you can see, he's kept immobile within his containment cell at all times, and we had no breaches whatsoever yesterday! It was a perfect day!


MagicBoots posted:

I ended up with Theresia in the same hall as CENSORED which was very useful.

Also do clerk executions count for Queen of Hatred's gimmick? Can I be the evil that gives her existence meaning? I also have the monk who doesn't like it when clerks die but doesn't mind executions, otherwise I'd feed clerks to the Flesh Lantern once a meltdown.

They absolutely count.

Once we get disciplinary I won't have any qualms with taking -04 anymore for that reason.

OOrochi
Jan 19, 2017


Tylana posted:

OOrochi : Only works on when it wants visitors, I think. Not the other bit.

Yup. Just tested it and it totally works.

Thanks a ton for talking about it because that thing has been eating up a ton of my works so far.

pumpinglemma
Apr 28, 2009

DD: Fondly regard abomination.



TeeQueue posted:

They absolutely count.

Once we get disciplinary I won't have any qualms with taking -04 anymore for that reason.
You heartless monster.

How could you waste precious bullets that way?

Danakir
Feb 10, 2014


So Purple Noons...

I was farming far into the Qliphoth Meltdowns when I got one of those for the first time. Suffice to say that I didn't expect GIANT loving PILLARS to smash down and instantly kill my agents if I didn't move them out in the way on time. That's one way to be forced to reload the day and redo all your farming.

TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

As you can see, he's kept immobile within his containment cell at all times, and we had no breaches whatsoever yesterday! It was a perfect day!


Danakir posted:

So Purple Noons...

I was farming far into the Qliphoth Meltdowns when I got one of those for the first time. Suffice to say that I didn't expect GIANT loving PILLARS to smash down and instantly kill my agents if I didn't move them out in the way on time. That's one way to be forced to reload the day and redo all your farming.

You never forget your first Violet Noon.

SaffronKit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.


TeeQueue posted:

You never forget your first Violet Noon.

This needs to be a part of the OP and also said every page at this point.

My play session ended today because I glanced my at my next meltdown, saw Violet Noon and promptly forgot about it till 2 departments worth of agents suddenly died as I blinked stupidly at the ordeal notification.

Arzaac
Jan 2, 2020


TeeQueue posted:

You never forget your first Violet Noon.

My first violet noon I managed to avoid any agent deaths by sheer loving coincidence. It did get me properly paranoid though, because that was sheer luck.

PlasticAutomaton
Nov 12, 2016

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TeeQueue posted:

You never forget your first Violet Noon.

Strike me as another one who just ran into their first Violet Noon as well and lost nearly every agent in my entire facility at once. WHY ARE THOSE THINGS.

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

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Charlotte continues to be a source of unintentional humour.



Isn't she just the most optimistic person you've met?

EDIT: So I just finished Day 21 and my first Dusk. Ended up getting Green Dusk which was a doozy. Oh god there are billions of machines. Luckily over half of my facility are rank 5 so it was more a battle of attrition than anything else. I did end up losing a person because I lost patience and they had an EGO suit weak to Red. That suit was also one from an abnormality no longer in my facility so it's now lost forever .

Meat Lantern is a dick. My employees are all pretty good at everything so anytime I try and do anything with it, it escapes. It's not that it's hard to take out. It just happens again. And again. And again. At least it let me complete Hod's mission alongside Malkuth's.

Also, I was pretty much stuck picking T-04-53 .

jimmydalad fucked around with this message at 10:45 on Jun 30, 2020

TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

As you can see, he's kept immobile within his containment cell at all times, and we had no breaches whatsoever yesterday! It was a perfect day!


jimmydalad posted:

Also, I was pretty much stuck picking T-04-53 .

Oh no. Oh god, no.

Do... do you need a hug?

pumpinglemma
Apr 28, 2009

DD: Fondly regard abomination.



jimmydalad posted:

Also, I was pretty much stuck picking T-04-53 .
I picked that fucker up not knowing what it was, and I intensely regret it. The best way I've found of dealing with it is to have someone with capped Attachment work with it when it melts down - they can fairly consistently get 8-9 boxes. You Must Be Happy might also help, thinking about it.

The abnormality that triggered my day 1 reset was T-01-31, which is like T-04-53 except that it's an Aleph and the consequences of mishandling it are worse.

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

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TeeQueue posted:

Oh no. Oh god, no.

Do... do you need a hug?

I think so. My other choices were Nameless Fetus or Fairy Festival and I need better long-ranged equipment as well as more WAW abnormalities.

WHY COULDN'T IT BE ANOTHER WAW?

I'm highly tempted to press the reset button once I get their gear because dealing with them in the long term is probably just an exercise in pain and sadness. I'm pretty much stuck with Meat Lantern though.

EDIT: Is it worth using Der Gun person's ability to just shoot the drat thing?

jimmydalad fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Jun 30, 2020

Tylana
May 5, 2011



Pillbug

Yeah, -53 is a pain.

Do you need to be told how to deal with Violet Noon?


And yeah, Meat Lantern is a dick. I got it as my first Central Command pick and had to hire a new person to deal with it. I forget if spears are long enough, too. OTOH, it gives so few boxes you can mostly ignore it.

Fun combo to get : Queen of Love and Hatred / Mountain of Smiles.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013



Grimey Drawer

I think my favorite combo was the button that ruins everything and the train. When I realized just what that combo did I rewinded and ended up with something inconsequential and the Queen of Hatred.

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

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Tylana posted:

Yeah, -53 is a pain.

Do you need to be told how to deal with Violet Noon?


And yeah, Meat Lantern is a dick. I got it as my first Central Command pick and had to hire a new person to deal with it. I forget if spears are long enough, too. OTOH, it gives so few boxes you can mostly ignore it.

Fun combo to get : Queen of Love and Hatred / Mountain of Smiles.

I've dealt with many Violet Noon's. After the first one, which you never forget, they are pretty easy to deal with. For some reason, I keep getting Green or Violet Noons. Meat Lantern was also my first Central Command pick. The day was spent working it, pausing the game to see where it spawned, then sending all my gun units after it. Repeatedly. Every single time I worked it, even with my weakest employee. It was a very, very long day as I wanted to get all its gear in a single day and just be done with the bastard.

Clouded Monk, as I've said before, is easy to suppress so long as you have decent red armour, which it kindly provides, while All-Around Helper is not dangerous cause of my gear and Schadenfreude's gimmick makes it pretty trivial to suppress. Thanks to them, I've got Hod's suppression mission complete. While monk is annoying cause of its clerk rights nature, it's probably one of the better WAW's to have for suppressions.

pumpinglemma
Apr 28, 2009

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T-04-53 only takes half black damage, so Der Gun isn't too useful.

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

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Well poo poo. So, how difficult is it to suppress -53?

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TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

As you can see, he's kept immobile within his containment cell at all times, and we had no breaches whatsoever yesterday! It was a perfect day!


It's annoying.

Like, it's not dangerous because it has a clear tell to its attack and never hits main rooms, but it's incredibly annoying.

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