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I think I restarted the most fighting against the Judgement Bird. Fighting Queen of Hatred doesn't cause me to restart that much. And there's still the Realization. So, The Purple Tear has the ability to teleport to another floor and immediately starts combat phase after you deplete half her health. Are you supposed to anticipate that or do you just let her kill of the 2nd floor? I don't have 50 keypage fully loaded out.
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Your Everyday NEET posted:I think I restarted the most fighting against the Judgement Bird. Fighting Queen of Hatred doesn't cause me to restart that much. And there's still the Realization.
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Sep 19, 2021 01:35
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By the way, I almost completed the game before I realized that if you click on an enemy die that could potentially clash with multiple targets (multiple of your dudes are targetting it with higher speed) a little prompt pops up and you can use tab to cycle between clash targets. I had just been laboriously making sure the last input was the one I wanted to trigger the clash with the entire game  Your Everyday NEET posted:So, The Purple Tear has the ability to teleport to another floor and immediately starts combat phase after you deplete half her health. Are you supposed to anticipate that or do you just let her kill of the 2nd floor? I don't have 50 keypage fully loaded out.
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RoboCicero posted:By the way, I almost completed the game before I realized that if you click on an enemy die that could potentially clash with multiple targets (multiple of your dudes are targetting it with higher speed) a little prompt pops up and you can use tab to cycle between clash targets. I had just been laboriously making sure the last input was the one I wanted to trigger the clash with the entire game gently caress
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RoboCicero posted:By the way, I almost completed the game before I realized that if you click on an enemy die that could potentially clash with multiple targets (multiple of your dudes are targetting it with higher speed) a little prompt pops up and you can use tab to cycle between clash targets. I had just been laboriously making sure the last input was the one I wanted to trigger the clash with the entire game What. Never mind almost, I did complete the game without ever noticing that.
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Sep 19, 2021 06:04
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Qrr posted:What. Never mind almost, I did complete the game without ever noticing that. It was added in somewhat close to the final release, iirc, until then you had to play your clash last.
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Sep 19, 2021 06:46
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Post SOTC: So I've just made it to a point of no return. I suppose I should google the list of general guests, book em, burn all of my books and complete my realizations. After that dive right in?? Ps: fuuuuck 얀샋ㄷ요무 By far the hardest SOTC fight, with Liu #2 in second. I actually did Liu #3 on my first attempt.
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EDIT: yeah just needed to reverify the cache and it fixed itself, weird
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Sep 19, 2021 21:32
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IAmThatIs posted:Post SOTC: More or less. I'm 9 fights into the point of no return and some of these have been really interesting. quote:Ps: fuuuuck 얀샋ㄷ요무 Nah, hardest fight is definitely Xiao.
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AweStriker posted:Nah, hardest fight is definitely Xiao. I didn't have a lot of trouble with that but to be fair I did that set of receptions last so I had all the other SOTC pages. I suspect order of doing things has a big impact on how hard people consider fights.
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Sep 19, 2021 22:22
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GilliamYaeger posted:I just let her kill the other floor then go back to beating her rear end with Gebura. That's the funniest thing, like she leaves and Gebura's just like "anyways where were we" 
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Acerbatus posted:That's the funniest thing, like she leaves and Gebura's just like "anyways where were we"
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They can’t seriously think giving Blue Sicko ~2.5x the health Roland gets was fair…? Hints, anyone?
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AweStriker posted:They can’t seriously think giving Blue Sicko ~2.5x the health Roland gets was fair…? GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Sep 20, 2021 |
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Sep 20, 2021 05:47
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He also has a lone fixer equivalent, all equipping LF does is give you parity. Grabbing the hauler passives goes a long way, though, as does fervor.
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Even just slapping bloodfiendish and nothing else on it enough to do it reliably. E: though that might have been before the nerf to crystal atelier and so on
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AweStriker posted:They can’t seriously think giving Blue Sicko ~2.5x the health Roland gets was fair…? Lone Fixer and Haulers will go a long way , yeah. You also get Abno cards, and honestly a lot of otherwise questionable Abno cards on Keter become much better in a 1v1. Enough so that you can win without passives if you can finagle your way into getting the right ones at the right time. Lone Fixer and Haulers make it a lot easier though, and if you want you can also stick on Unrelenting or something of that sort in case you do mess up and get owned. Qrr posted:I didn't have a lot of trouble with that but to be fair I did that set of receptions last so I had all the other SOTC pages. I've done SotC three times now, in a different order each time, and I still consider 얀샋ㄷ요무 the hardest fight in the tier by a fair margin. The best strategy I've found to beat it is actually to use Keter, oddly enough. With the extra 1-2 strength from Pulsation and the +4 power from Fervent Beats on one dude you can actually block Distorted Blade semi-consistently, which helps a ton.
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He melts to fairy even harder than most 9d the other vulnerable bosses. Fairy is ridiculous.
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You have to land fairy first, though, which can't be done until roughly the halfway point of the fight. e: this is not discord, tq
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Weapons chat in the other thread reminded me that art team shenanigans forced Gaze Office to use oboes as weapons. We should have gotten a version of the Reverb. Ensemble where every member used their corresponding musical instrument as a weapon rather than just Breman.
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TeeQueue posted:You have to land fairy first, though, which can't be done until roughly the halfway point of the fight. Theres ways around that.
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TeeQueue posted:I feel like the reason the head waited so long to deal with Angela is because they knew going in before exactly when they did would result in an immediate loss for them. Yeah it's fairly heavily implied that if Roland wasn't exhausted and near-dead he would have, at the very least, been a massive pain in the rear end to take out before even adding in the other two. Put a whole library on top of that and they just would've ate poo poo, and an Arbiter getting booked memories-intact would be a huge fuckin problem for the Head. I don't think they expected Binah to actually turn her coat too given how Zena suddenly gets a lot less smug when The Alpha Smuglord shows up to laugh at her. Libraryportation aside the Head kind of got hosed on this whole exchange.
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It goes beyond even that. Remember, anyone entering the library is quantized on entry and copied in order to allow for refights and the creation of books. The head could not enter without giving their secrets away, and even if Angela didn’t know that, they probably did.
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TeeQueue posted:It goes beyond even that. Remember, anyone entering the library is quantized on entry and copied in order to allow for refights and the creation of books. The head could not enter without giving their secrets away, and even if Angela didn’t know that, they probably did. I'm not sure I agree that refights are an actual thing in canon that happen outside of gameplay convenience. And after you beat the game, can't you retry the last fight over and over too?
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WarpedLichen posted:I'm not sure I agree that refights are an actual thing in canon that happen outside of gameplay convenience. And after you beat the game, can't you retry the last fight over and over too? they love to narratively explain game mechanics over there, did it over and over in lob corp. anyway nothing after the game counts because if you're following the story you shouldn't have any books left at all, but of course they couldn't do that because people would've lost their minds. they even thought about doing a big nier-esque show of your entire inventory being deleted.
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WarpedLichen posted:I'm not sure I agree that refights are an actual thing in canon that happen outside of gameplay convenience. And after you beat the game, can't you retry the last fight over and over too?
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lets hang out posted:they even thought about doing a big nier-esque show of your entire inventory being deleted. honestly I'm not sure if I would have loved or hated this, and I think that means they should have done it.
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GilliamYaeger posted:Hokma talks about it after one of his Abnormality fights. It's almost certainly the same technology behind Librarians/Agents being able to be copied from stasis, enabling them to die over and over and over. I remember the parts about everybody being converted into the light when entering library space but I don't recall any explanation of the refights in the plot. Also that would kinda mess up all the times people were able to run out of the library like San and Phillip.
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WarpedLichen posted:I remember the parts about everybody being converted into the light when entering library space but I don't recall any explanation of the refights in the plot. Also that would kinda mess up all the times people were able to run out of the library like San and Phillip. Those people escape because the Library lets them escape.
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TeeQueue posted:It goes beyond even that. Remember, anyone entering the library is quantized on entry and copied in order to allow for refights and the creation of books. The head could not enter without giving their secrets away, and even if Angela didn’t know that, they probably did. That said, Binah was extremely confident that Angela had no means of getting any secrets out of her so maybe those who serve the Head and know confidential things are protected in some way
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Can't believe I beat fire Lu Bu and the Korean monster on first try. Xiao's keypage is just silly. she still has access to her EGO and are able to transform twice and also carry a great number of EGO pages. All that's left is the RRR rematch and it's silly 4 acts 2 floors before I can access the final chapter. Killing them with Myongest Yesod doubles their book drop and instantly grants their keypages. He's so good.
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I feel like with the Lock Singularity seeming to be able to auto-Lock brain/memories the Head doesn't want others to have in Binah/Garion when she fails that the Library wouldn't be able to get any too high secrets even if they somehow managed to beat down an Arbiter. The real issue would be the Library now having an Arbiter Key Page to equip and semi-access to what Singularities the Arbiter had which going by Binah's bullshit is pretty OP. But anyways I feel like the Head less attacked the Library at its lowest moment because that was their only chance (I feel like they could had stomped it way earlier if it wanted to even accounting for the invitation storage trick) and more because Angela/the Library proved that she was going to be a problem instead of just another resident of the City as the Pale Librarian who would eventually lead to the Fixers becoming Bookhunters. I feel like the Head had an idea of the possible paths the Library could had gone down like Iori did and when Angela and Roland basically got their Golden Ending of both sparing and saving each other breaking the Cycle of the City without fading away it meant that the Head now had to act. While before they (the Library) could had collapsed without any action or greater effect on the City now it was a threat to 'closing the door' whatever that means.
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NotteBoy97 posted:I feel like with the Lock Singularity seeming to be able to auto-Lock brain/memories the Head doesn't want others to have in Binah/Garion when she fails that the Library wouldn't be able to get any too high secrets even if they somehow managed to beat down an Arbiter. The real issue would be the Library now having an Arbiter Key Page to equip and semi-access to what Singularities the Arbiter had which going by Binah's bullshit is pretty OP. GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Sep 21, 2021 |
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Welp, after getting RNG screwed back to Sayo's fight on the long conga line to refight Distorted Yan and get another crack at getting more Impurity cards, I think I'm just going to sit on things until TQ's LP finishes the game. Watching Dice that have only one possible roll to screw up and lose... and do it for an entire reception... for SEVERAL receptions... I'm just done trying for now. I could make attempts at the Blue Reverb, but that's just more getting pounded into dirt, since I did make an attempt at a few of the first layer. Tip's Realization has also been grinding me into the dirt. If I'm lucky, Nihil's Greed form stuffs my fight, or I end up unlucky am unable to even get to that fight. I know it's meant to be done before impurity, but I found Religion's Realization to be easier.
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Xenav posted:Welp, after getting RNG screwed back to Sayo's fight on the long conga line to refight Distorted Yan and get another crack at getting more Impurity cards, I think I'm just going to sit on things until TQ's LP finishes the game. Watching Dice that have only one possible roll to screw up and lose... and do it for an entire reception... for SEVERAL receptions... I'm just done trying for now. Blue Reverb isn't that bad if you know that (spoiler for the fight)he bails when he hits half health, changing his effective hp from a ridiculous 500 to a much more manageable 250, making focus firing him to remove him from the fight ASAP the correct solution as opposed to taking down the adds first and letting him build up emotion levels Also, the I wholeheartedly recommend using the no-grind mod, the drop rates in IC are bullshit and making you have to grind for pages is the single worst decision PM has made by a huge marigin. Aumanor fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Sep 21, 2021 |
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gently caress, quote =/= edit
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Aumanor posted:Blue Reverb isn't that bad if you know that (spoiler for the fight)he bails when he hits half health, changing his effective hp from a ridiculous 500 to a much more manageable 250, making focus firing him to remove him from the fight ASAP the correct solution as opposed to taking down the adds first and letting him build up emotion levels Taken that Xenav is at Impurity already, it's pretty safe to say it's not the Blue Reverb fight at SotC that is being referred to
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Theantero posted:Taken that Xenav is at Impurity already, it's pretty safe to say it's not the Blue Reverb fight at SotC that is being referred to gently caress, reading comprehension, my greatest enemy 
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Yinlock posted:Yeah it's fairly heavily implied that if Roland wasn't exhausted and near-dead he would have, at the very least, been a massive pain in the rear end to take out before even adding in the other two. Put a whole library on top of that and they just would've ate poo poo, and an Arbiter getting booked memories-intact would be a huge fuckin problem for the Head. I mean, if the head cared they have more than one arbiter and claw.
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Xenav posted:Tip's Realization has also been grinding me into the dirt. If I'm lucky, Nihil's Greed form stuffs my fight, or I end up unlucky am unable to even get to that fight. I know it's meant to be done before impurity, but I found Religion's Realization to be easier. During the last phase, every girl spams hope, every turn. This gives them all a +8 strength to all dice, making it kind of a cinematic boss.
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