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This day, 51 years ago, a black transgender woman/drag person threw the first stone at straighty, kicking off the Stonewall riots. Marsha P Johnson is my hero.  (USER WAS AUTOBANNED FOR THIS POST)
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Jun 28, 2020 15:33
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Looks like the OP accidentally auto-banned. I restored their account and re-opened this thread.
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Jun 28, 2020 16:14
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Thank you so much Cyrano I didn't want to bug anyone to ask with everything going on you're awesome
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Jun 28, 2020 16:14
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I used what turned out to be the wrong tag. I honestly had no idea. Thank you for fixing this!
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Jun 28, 2020 16:18
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I threw the attention tag on it because I assume that's what you were trying to do. If you want a different one shoot me a PM and I'll make it happen.
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Jun 28, 2020 16:25
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Such Fun posted:I used what turned out to be the wrong tag. I honestly had no idea. Thank you for fixing this! qualified to mod gbs
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Jun 28, 2020 16:29
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Here are two videos about the riot. One gives a broader narrative about what happened, and the other features queer people who were actually there during the riot. https://youtu.be/1KwQbE6m43A https://youtu.be/S7jnzOMxb14
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Jun 28, 2020 16:40
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kinda shameful that i barely know anything about this event other than it was important in the broader scheme of things, thanks for posting the videos
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Jun 28, 2020 16:43
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Statutory Ape posted:qualified to mod gbs I made a thread without regard of the rules, got autobanned, sent an email, got a response in 3 minutes. I have nothing but mad respect for the mods <3 But on to the topic: tell and teach me what you know about Stonewall! I am fired up!
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Jun 28, 2020 16:45
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Wish there was video of the looks on the cops faces when they realized they'd kicked that big ol rainbow hornets next for the last time.
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Jun 28, 2020 16:47
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I know the recent historical fiction film that came out absolutely sucks and that it should be another national holiday in the US.
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Jun 28, 2020 16:48
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I made sure to visit Stonewall when I went to Manhattan a few years ago, saw the plaque in the park across the street, I liked it. Got to take a photo of two women together from Italy for them in front of Stonewall, too. Happy Stonewall Day!
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Jun 28, 2020 16:49
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First time hearing about this. Read the whole wiki. Favorite part:quote:The police, outnumbered by between 500 and 600 people, grabbed several people, including folk singer and mentor of Bob Dylan, Dave Van Ronk—who had been attracted to the revolt from a bar two doors away from the Stonewall. Though Van Ronk was not gay, he had experienced police violence when he participated in antiwar demonstrations: "As far as I was concerned, anybody who'd stand against the cops was all right with me, and that's why I stayed in... Every time you turned around the cops were pulling some outrage or another."
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Jun 28, 2020 16:49
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One of the intresting aspects about the riot is that, contrary to popular narrative, the queer people there didn’t fight for what was a beloved gay bar. The Stonewall Inn was a horrible dumb. Not grimey, it was gross. It was run by the maffia, through one -I kid you not- Fat Tony. The admission fee was extotion, the drinks were overpriced and watered down. At the time there were other, less wretched, gay bars, but queer folk still went to the Stonewall Inn because it had something no other gay bar in New York had: a dance floor. At that time there was a law that made it illegal to dance in public with a person of the same gender. So gay bars would just not have a dance floor. But the Stonewall Inn had its maffia connections, which translated to having cop connections. So they always managed to clear their dance floor right before a police raid took place. This made the Stonewall Inn the only place in New York where queer people could experience this particular freedom at the time.
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Jun 28, 2020 17:05
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acab
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Jun 28, 2020 17:13
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People never, ever talk about the rockette dance line during the riot.
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Jun 28, 2020 17:19
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Last night I was watching something and realized the trope of small town female cops being coded as lesbian. Made me go ‘huh’.
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Jun 28, 2020 17:19
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Such Fun posted:Last night I was watching something and realized the trope of small town female cops being coded as lesbian. Made me go ‘huh’. Was it Onward
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Jun 28, 2020 17:20
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:People never, ever talk about the rockette dance line during the riot. They out-gayed the Spartans on the phalanx manoeuvre
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Jun 28, 2020 17:21
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Sid Vicious posted:Was it Onward No, I think it was a no or one line role on Doom Patrol actually. More of a visual confirmation of the trope. What is ‘interesting’ about the trope is that there is a subtext that these women are admirable because they exhibit traditional male forms of strength: solitary and independent, averse to displaying emotion and vulnerability. What makes them lesbian coded is short haircuts and a boxy uniform hiding traditionally female curves. I don’t really know why they are a trope; what purpose they are intended to serve
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Jun 28, 2020 17:38
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We may never know who threw the first brick, but maybe the real first brick throwers were the friends we made along the way.
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Jun 28, 2020 17:43
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Such Fun posted:No, I think it was a no or one line role on Doom Patrol actually. More of a visual confirmation of the trope. I think they feel like they're being progressive, like onward has a single throwaway line where the very masculine ogre woman cop says her wife is at home waiting, but they code her so obviously that it just comes across as pandering
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Jun 28, 2020 17:45
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https://www.afterellen.com/movies/454227-lesbians-stonewall The Stonewall Lesbian(s) “A rather tough lesbian was busted in the bar and when she came out of the bar she was fighting the cops and trying to get away. And the harder she fought, the more the cops were beating her up and the madder the crowd got.“ In 1969, it was illegal not only to having any same sex relationships, but for people to cross dress. Lesbians would be arrested if they weren’t wearing at least three items of women’s clothing, which is why many butch dykes would be thrown into jail after police raids on the underground gay bars, such as the Stonewall.
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Jun 28, 2020 17:46
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:We may never know who threw the first brick, but maybe the real first brick throwers were the friends we made along the way. Historical inquiry results in the first projectile having been either a brick, a rock from the nearby park, a molotov cocktail, or a shot glass. Regardless, they had a gay old time.
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Jun 28, 2020 17:54
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thank you for making the thread OP im glad you were unbanned so quickly
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Jun 28, 2020 17:59
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the dollop podcast on the stonewall riots was really good, I will have to put that on today. thanks for the heads up op. I loved the impromptu runway show out front the bar, classy as gently caress. just hearing it recounted by two beer bellied white dudes was electric, I couldn't imagine what it would have been like to actually be there
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Jun 28, 2020 18:06
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BIG TIT LIL NIP posted:the dollop podcast on the stonewall riots was really good Gonna put that on now. Thanks, BIG.. T.. Gonna put that on now, thank you.
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Jun 28, 2020 18:15
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The black trans community who strongly over the way and led to progress in LGBT achievement and their rights should be celebrated and it's embarrassing that today is not a national holiday. Happy Stonewall Day!
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Jun 28, 2020 18:27
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Statutory Ape posted:Im glad you were unbanned so quickly Apparently this forum has premium quality costumer service? I failed to follow the rules when making a post, and no less than two mods sprang to my aid. I made a pledge to donate as soon as Jeffrey has control of the forum. If it is possible for you to do so too, I think that would be a great thing to do <3
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Jun 28, 2020 18:28
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lol i doubt im giving SA any more money ever 
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Jun 28, 2020 18:29
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:The black trans community who strongly over the way and led to progress in LGBT achievement and their rights should be celebrated and it's embarrassing that today is not a national holiday. Happy Stonewall Day! Imagine the gonads it took for these black trans people! I am a white, (with hormone therapy) cis presenting male. A large part of my social interactions are about fretfully trying to be passing as male and straight. But every day I look to the black trans community for aspiration and inspiration, and I find it. Happy Stonewall Day!
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Jun 28, 2020 18:39
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Barudak posted:I know the recent historical fiction film that came out absolutely sucks It’s only a brick if thrown by white gay men, otherwise it’s a sparkling shot glass. Black transgender women are murdered at alarming rates. They have a bleak life expectancy between 35 and 37 years old, according to Julian K. Glover, an African American Studies doctoral student at Northwestern University and receive an average annual income of $10,000 — well below the poverty line. According to the Human Rights Campaign at the time of press, at least ten of them have been murdered already this year, and many more fear for their lives. Black transgender women also deserve credit for the state of LGBTQ progress today. Here's a look at why we owe Pride month to them and how we can all be better allies in a dangerous landscape for black LGBTQ people. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2019/06/24/pride-month-black-transgender-women-stonewall-marsha-p-johnson/1478200001/
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Jun 28, 2020 18:56
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Such Fun posted:[Img] Seems I cant make this link work. Anyway, this is Peppermint. She is a Black trans woman drag queen. She gained fame through RuPaul’s Drag Race, but as you can imagine, there is more to a Black trans woman drag queen than being reality tv person. She has her own youtube channel (Miss Peppermint) with videos of her performances and also videos talking about her life. I don’t know if her videos are for everyone, but you can always check it out and decide for yourself. Such Fun fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jun 28, 2020 |
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Jun 28, 2020 19:10
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if anyone can reccomend a reputable donation link to support trans rights thatd be dope. its hosed up we have to fight for basic human rights, everyone should be treated equally (except for nazis) trans rights now dammit!!
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Jun 28, 2020 19:33
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Such Fun posted:This day, 51 years ago, a black transgender woman/drag person threw the first stone at straighty, kicking off the Stonewall riots. That was confusing. Hell yeah, Marsha, you rock.
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Jun 28, 2020 19:34
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This was a good use of the Attention tag.
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Jun 28, 2020 19:38
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BIG TIT LIL NIP posted:if anyone can reccomend a reputable donation link to support trans rights thatd be dope. its hosed up we have to fight for basic human rights, everyone should be treated equally (except for nazis) Paging forum user T-man to school us. I too would like to know reputable causes to contribute to. Trans rights are human rights ✊
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Jun 28, 2020 20:21
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Why are the mods coddling the OP
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Jun 28, 2020 20:27
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Cyrano4747 posted:Looks like the OP accidentally auto-banned. I restored their account and re-opened this thread. Why amnesty now ? Since I joined in 05 it was a time honored tradition to lol at the folks who don't read the rules.
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Jun 28, 2020 20:34
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420 20 posted:Why are the mods coddling the OP Because they made an honest mistake, which is still usually met with “well pay the idiot tax then” but this is an extremely good and important thread and the mods rock for clearing it up almost immediately! As a white gay man, my knowledge of the Stonewall riots is unfortunately almost negligible and I’ve been feeling increasingly shameful when I realize how little I know about the history of LGBTQ rights. Thank you for the thread!
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