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mazzi Chart Czar posted:Or would Trump have made Bin Laden so unimportant that nobody would have given a poo poo about Obama killing Bin Laden? Trick question, nobody gave a poo poo about Obama killing Bin Laden.
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Jun 30, 2020 07:36
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a few DRUNK BONERS posted:Would trump dodge the shoe? we just went over this. we wouldn’t have been in iraq
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Jun 30, 2020 07:39
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Would trump accomplish the mission?
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Jun 30, 2020 07:40
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Xaris posted:dubya and this isnt even a question and anyone who thinks trumo is worse is a loving lib. close thread
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Jun 30, 2020 08:24
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i remember the biggest drama of the bush admin before 9/11 being about steel tariffs and that missing intern for gary condit, chandra levy 1995-2001 was an incredibly boring time for politics, it was essentially one long monica lewinsky joke
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Jun 30, 2020 08:40
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Trump is doing everything in his power to accelerate the demise of the Amerikkklan empire and is therefore less bad than dubya.
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Jun 30, 2020 08:45
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fart simpson posted:if trump won in 2000 we wouldn’t have gone into iraq I’ll tell you one thing, Trump didn’t do 9/11.
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Jun 30, 2020 08:47
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bush probably killed more people (so far) but I'm pretty sure trump ruined whatever slim chance there may have been for me to have kids who grew up in a world where they didn't starve to death so I have to pick the latter unfortunately the revisionist succ fawning over the dubya years is disgusting however
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Jun 30, 2020 08:50
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Depends on how many human lives a norm is worth, OP.
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Jun 30, 2020 09:20
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TheLemonOfIchabod posted:bush probably killed more people (so far) but I'm pretty sure trump ruined whatever slim chance there may have been for me to have kids who grew up in a world where they didn't starve to death so I have to pick the latter unfortunately Capitalism ruined that chance. Policy-wise Trump is just bog-standard republican, the only thing he does that other presidents didn't/wouldn't do is shitpost on twitter.
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Jun 30, 2020 09:30
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I'm of the opinion that Trump is one of the better American presidents in modern history because he's too incompetent to get as many horrible things done, as opposed to the psychopaths like Obama who can do most of the same poo poo that he does except they don't say the quiet part out loud so the liberals never notice it.TheLemonOfIchabod posted:bush probably killed more people (so far) but I'm pretty sure trump ruined whatever slim chance there may have been for me to have kids who grew up in a world where they didn't starve to death so I have to pick the latter unfortunately Uhh that would have happened even if Clinton won or if Obama got a third term or if Kucinich won the primary and then Clinton died of pneumonia in October and he somehow won. Classon Ave. Robot has issued a correction as of 09:58 on Jun 30, 2020 |
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Jun 30, 2020 09:32
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i say swears online posted:i remember the biggest drama of the bush admin before 9/11 being about steel tariffs and that missing intern for gary condit, chandra levy yeah that part where he literally stole the 2000 election was a real snoozefest
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Jun 30, 2020 09:48
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they're both p bad op
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Jun 30, 2020 09:52
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Trump. The 2008 financial crisis was a wet fart compared to the depression going on right now.
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Jun 30, 2020 09:55
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Chuka Umana posted:Trump. The 2008 financial crisis was a wet fart compared to the depression going on right now. But the response has been virtually identical to Obama's in 2008.
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Jun 30, 2020 10:26
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Stringent posted:But the response has been virtually identical to Obama's in 2008. Obama wasn't President in 2008?
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Jun 30, 2020 10:38
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trump personally bioengineered coronavirus to wipe out the american economy
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Jun 30, 2020 11:08
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Chuka Umana posted:Obama wasn't President in 2008? point stands
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Jun 30, 2020 11:16
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trump thus far is less worse than obama and bush jr. iraq, afghanistan, and libya are some of the worst crimes of the modern US empire, and they were accomplished in the first term.
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Jun 30, 2020 12:29
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carter is arguably worse than trump. trump is continuing obama's genocide in yemen, but the concentrated bloodshed in east timor carter militarily supported probably had far higher concentrated bloodshed clinton is arguably worse than trump. the iraqi sanctions alone may have killed over a million people. clinton supplied more arms to turkey to ethnically cleanse kurds within nato borders than the amount of arms turkey received from the US in the entire preceding cold war period. edit: fixed typo comedyblissoption has issued a correction as of 13:03 on Jun 30, 2020 |
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Jun 30, 2020 12:39
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gwb is obviously the worst how is there even debate? trump decided not to attack iran based on the us military's estimates of iranian civilian deaths, can anyone itf actually imagine gwb or obama giving a single gently caress about another country's civilian deaths? plus this is underappreciated and hella true: Classon Ave. Robot posted:I'm of the opinion that Trump is one of the better American presidents in modern history because he's too incompetent to get as many horrible things done, as opposed to the psychopaths like Obama who can do most of the same poo poo that he does except they don't say the quiet part out loud so the liberals never notice it.
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Jun 30, 2020 12:45
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comedyblissoption posted:carter is arguably worse than trump. trump is continuing obama's genocide in yemen, but the concentrated bloodshed in east timor carter militarily supported probably had far higher concentrated bloodshed Don't forget NAFTA and the crime bills. There's a strong case to be made for Clinton being an even worse president than Reagan domestically.
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Jun 30, 2020 12:50
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also roni could kill 2 million people in the US by the end of the year and obama's libya or bush's iraq/afghanistan are still far worse crimes
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Jun 30, 2020 12:59
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comedyblissoption posted:also getting your own people killed by massively bungling domestic handling of a pandemic is nowhere near the scale of crime as invading and killing people or militarily supporting a genocide You would think this would be too obvious to be worth stating, yet here we are.
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Jun 30, 2020 13:01
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comedyblissoption posted:also roni could kill 2 million people in the US by the end of the year and obama's libya or bush's iraq/afghanistan are still far worse crimes
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Jun 30, 2020 13:02
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Stringent posted:yeah that part where he literally stole the 2000 election was a real snoozefest a nonideological fight between two neoliberal parties? edge of my seat (i still have a newspaper i saved from mid-november then, the ads are cute)
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Jun 30, 2020 14:05
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i say swears online posted:a nonideological fight between two neoliberal parties? edge of my seat i admit gore sucked, but calling that nonideological is throwing the baby out with the bathwater
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Jun 30, 2020 14:42
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comedyblissoption posted:also roni could kill 2 million people in the US by the end of the year and obama's libya or bush's iraq/afghanistan are still far worse crimes The engineered famine could kill a hundred million
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Jun 30, 2020 18:28
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hillary clinton
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Jun 30, 2020 18:32
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The Atomic Man-Boy posted:Bush is good now because Obama said so. Close thread, thanks for posting.
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Jun 30, 2020 18:33
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:hillary clinton 
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Jun 30, 2020 18:33
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Chuka Umana posted:Trump. The 2008 financial crisis was a wet fart compared to the depression going on right now. honestly I don’t think any mainstream R or D would have handled the situation any better
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Jun 30, 2020 18:33
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Xaris posted:dubya and this isnt even a question and anyone who thinks trumo is worse is a loving lib. close thread
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Jun 30, 2020 18:41
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Stringent posted:Don't forget NAFTA and the crime bills. There's a strong case to be made for Clinton being an even worse president than Reagan domestically. You know what yeah
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Jun 30, 2020 18:45
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BeefThief posted:up until this year the answer was definitely george bush although with 130-190k dead americans (and counting) i think trumpy boi gets the belt or ring or whatever
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Jun 30, 2020 18:46
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it's real close. bush did far more damage over the long term but holy poo poo trump and moreover his admin really hosed poo poo up bad w/covid so i think you have blame the whole group really
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Jun 30, 2020 18:48
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obama was really bad, and up until this year trump was basically just carrying over most of the poo poo with the obviously hosed up policies like travel bans and the wall, etc., but for most of americans their lives were just as lovely from 2017 up until 2020 as they were during 2008-2016
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Jun 30, 2020 18:49
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in summary, presidents are a land of contrasts, but all of those contrasts are bad
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Jun 30, 2020 18:50
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i'm clearly swimming against the current here, but i'm gonna say that the president who doesn't give a single poo poo about the country and only cares about enriching himself and gaining unearned adulation is the worse president, even if he hasn't killed as many people as of yet the president who is incapable of even understanding domestic or foreign policy is the worse president the president who is deliberately and openly destroying what's left of american democratic institutions is the worse president the president who takes foreign orders is the worse president
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