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NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Double post degeneracy supremacy!

Order came through with LbO corojo lanceros, Rose of Sharon lanceros, and Rocky Patel Sun Grown Juniors.

The important updates are they I hate Rocky Patel and his laser cut portrait on the inside of all of these tins. To quote a poet, "you're tacky and I hate you"

Still hope they're good.

And the RoS lanceros look great. They were packaged with a still-squishy 69% (nice) Boveda pack, so I'm going to try smoking one right now because I'm a huge gay idiot.

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NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Maksimus54 posted:

Hit up the Wooden Nickel and get an order of chippers extra crispy.

My wife went to school in Appleton and has family from there as well, it's a neat area

Hell yeah! I've been heading up to Chain o Lakes for 20 years now, so I'm glad to get a good local spot!

Lyon posted:

Drink as much New Glarus as you can while in Wisconsin. Ideally their fruited sour/funky stuff and not Spotted Cow but sometimes you don't have options.

Oh I am no stranger! I love stocking up on their experimental stuff. The raspberry tart and Belgian red might be my favorite regular productions of theirs.

I'm planning on grabbing some Rhinelander shorties, too. Inshallah Costco carries some regionals.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Great haul, Dramatika! I'm a big La Aurora fan, I didn't enjoy the 107, but I sure hope you do. Those 115s are if you see them in stock next time you're at the shop.

Yeah, re: ring gauges, there seems to be a weird machismo factor associated with large ring gauges. My all time favorite cigar is a Toro Gordo, but the rest of my humidor comes in under 50rg.

Lonsdales and lanceros all have pretty high wrapper:binder/filler ratios, so if you're discerning, you may go to those because it makes the wrapper really pop. They're also harder to make because the wrapper leaves are harder to make right. Coronas are much easier to accomplish because they're shorter, while keeping a similar ratio.

Anyway, enjoy that you like what's not the mainstream because they're less likely to get snatched out from under you on auction sites

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Made a victory lap at Up Down before I head off to Appleton tomorrow. I picked up one of the t h i c c Boveda packs to throw on the top layer of my humidor. I think with the Oasis on the bottom and that big boy at the top, we'll get some more consistent action in there.

My pickup today included: 2 x Black Works Studio Hyenas Lonsdales, 2 x Arturo Fuente Casa Cuba Doble Tres, and 3 x Curivari Trail Mix.

I have never heard of Black Works Studio, and they were recommended by German at Up Down, and I'm real interested, so trip report on that:

Closed foot with a pigtail cap. The cigar is firm if slightly toothy. Smells a little like feet on the outside (this is generally a good thing in my experience) and the clipped cap gave a little burst of figgy flavor right when it got cut. The draw is loose enough on the dry pull that I'm a lil bit worried about whether I got a bum smoke or not. The flavor on that cold pull is a mellow burnt sugar/caramel.

That is a very hot smoke right off the bat. Great pepper and cocoa with that DPG Blue/El Centurion oat-cereal flavor. This is a little more oat-y than the wheat-y flavor of the Garcia smokes. I'm having some Dewar's 12 (The Ancestor, it claims on the bottle) with this, and with that the cigar's finish has a little sappy sweetness to it. I can't make it happen consistently, so maybe it's just one of those fun little merry-go-round flavors that'll pop up again on its own schedule.

Definitely a pepper bomb on this opening inch and change. The sweetness is starting to pull in for a few puffs at a time, so hopefully that will build to be a more common flavor in the profile as the smoke continues.

I let the cigar rest for a bit and it has a bit more of an even keel on the tail end of this first third. The sweetness is not as pronounced as it has been on the occasional puffs, but the cereal body has picked back up some and provides a nice complement to the pepper.

As an aside, I have been drawing quite slowly on this smoke to keep it from cooking itself.

Around the halfway point now, maybe a little further in, and we have encountered the flavor that was teased with the foot smell on the wrapper: the funk has kicked in! The pepper, sweetness, and cereal are all there, but that umami funk of something fermented is a major player now. I love that flavor. My favorite kind of tea is pu'erh tea, and it is a fermented black tea that has that flavor in spades. I love it, and when cigars feature it like in the Hors d'Ages series, I am just so thrilled. It's really playing well with that light sweetness on the back end, like some kind of syrup.

This final third is fabulous. Fermented funk with spice is one of my favorite qualities of the Hors d'Ages line.

Just finished it up, highly recommend! There is a strong possibility that I will triple post with the Casa Cuba Doble Tres after dinner (which is nowish).

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Atlantic has them, but you have to call. I think there might be something from Fuente prohibiting their online sale. Planning on asking how much the box of 30 costs with the VIP buyer discount hehehe

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



That was extremely delicious! Much more delicate than I thought it would be, I tend to think of the Opus X as a bigger smoke. I'd have that again any day, though!

Lots of rose, bergamot, and some really amazing cinnamon at one point. Mild-medium strength with a slightly fuller body. Super duper recommend checking that out.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Hell yeah! I've been meaning to try that line. I may come around to more Fuente stuff in TYOOL 2021.

I stopped into Woodman's grocery store, which is employee owned to pick up some New Glarus, which is also employee owned. I grabbed their Triple 5, a Belgian tripel, and Cabin Fever, a honey Bock, and paired it with a Bolivar PC to complete the circle for my huge gay lefty rear end.

The Triple 5 is a really clean tripel, really competent and didn't really rock the boat. It really makes me miss Aviator's Devil's Tramping Ground, so if you're in NC grab one of those for me! Probably not going to get more after I clear this 4 pack, but if I were hankering for a tripel I'd go for it.

The Cabin Fever honey Bock was EXCELLENT. Super clear honey flavor, I'm grabbing multiple sixers to bring home. The sweetness is really great to keep the nicotine in check from the smoke.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Hell yeah! Congrats on kick-rear end new job!

LAdC Rothschild for me tonight, Partagas Short over coffee this morning.

No lie, friends, business travel in a pandemic is rough. Can't wait do anything besides eat out, smoke cigars, and sleep. And even the eating happens in my car, same with the smoking. It's just a little too chilly to hang out outside. At least I'll be camping this weekend and have no choice!

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



My friends I am, this very moment, smoking my first Gurkha since I was a teenager. I now wish I had not typed that.

Side note, smoking cigars in Wisconsin is apparently more expensive than Chicago.

This is the San Miguel Petite Corona. Weighing in at 4-1/4" x 42, it is right in the middle size-wise. I have no expectations from this cigar, except that it was recommended while my new cigar friend from Appleton, Rose, and I shot the breeze at the shop.

Fairly nondescript milk chocolate wrapper, no particular oiliness or dryness. The cap looks OK, it has a nice little pigtail on it. The foot smells well spiced, cedary, and even parts chocolate and leather at the very tail end.

Using a punch, the draw is wide open. Just enough restriction to remind you you're smoking. Lots of peach on the dry pull, faint fresh cracked black pepper.

The first couple puffs were substantially more powerful than I had anticipated. After a few puffs, it lightens up some. I'm having a hard time piecing together what it tastes like besides distinctly Nicaraguan. There's a fair amount of smoke from such a tiny stick. This reminds me of some General Cigar and AJ Fernandez smokes with the emulating-Cuban-mineral flavor.

It's very pleasant, becoming even milder towards the end of the first inch. And it didn't grow, change, or do anything else after. It got a little bitter.

I paid Wisconsin pricing, so what does it actually go for on them innernets? This cigar can be had for the low, low price of $9.50 for a single or $190 for a box of twenty.

gently caress. That. Do not recommend.

I'm gonna run some liquids over my palate and try the Hemingway Short Story. I know it'll at least be competent.

e: it was plugged and totally fell apart after running my PerfecDraw through it. Not my day.

NewFatMike fucked around with this message at 01:34 on May 13, 2021

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Having a New Glarus Apple Ale and Curivari Buenaventura BV60.

I think, along with the LbO corojo lanceros, I might place these as "the cigar most like a cigar".

It's real light, real approachable. The flavors are identifiable, but not overpowering. Real inexpensive, and I think you can ask someone "would you want to try something spicier, stronger, mellower, lighter, etc?" And a newbie can get an idea of what more in any of those directions might be like.

I don't think I like them nearly as much as I do the LbO CoLa, but they're awfully hard not to enjoy. I'll have to get more of the cafe noir and Leon from them.

I also picked up a La Palina Double Digit on the recommendation of my new cigar shop friend, we'll see how that goes when I get to it. I may stop in there later this evening for a drink and a smoke.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Is that sold matured or did you age it in the tin on your own at home?

The Partagas Short I'm having this morning is out of control. What a fabulous way to kick off my weekend just before I start camping.

11/10 Partagas Short, half day for work, and heading up to the camp I grew up at. Today's got it all!

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



I'm sitting in a cigar bar in beautiful Appleton, WI and having a My Father La Promesa. I had hoped it would be a little stronger, but it's a real good introductory MF cigar. I think I still prefer the DPG Blues.

I also have signed up for the Atlantic Cigar VIP pricing, and I'm gonna say it now: looks worth it.

A box of the Tatuaje Miami Noellas, which I already had bought at a good deal of $164 is now $152. The My Father Fonseca Cosacos go for $94 now. A 50 cab of Illusione Rothschildes goes for $178, and a toro box La Flor de Las Antillas goes for $94. I'm gonna go ahead and say it's worth it!

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



I've poked around at some more of the Atlantic menu this morning, and it's looking extra good. From the home page, if you pick the deals or exclusives it's really good with the membership.

A lot of the pricing isn't quite as low as CA or Cigar Page, which is understandable, but the spread is a lot better if that makes sense. And you can buy whenever instead of waiting for things to come up.

The La Aurora Preferidos especially are at CA pricing, which is excellent - no need to worry about getting outbid.

There are some crazy good Tatuaje and My Father deals, but they aren't as deep for every line. They also have big packs of some of my favorite petite coronas - Cracker Crumbs by Surrogates and L'Atelier Travailleurs. Those aren't in a lot of places and it's $100 for a 50 cab each, so I'm planning on getting those again.

There are also Paul Garmirian cigars at under $10/ea which is insane.

They also offer a lot of 5 and 10 packs, so I may be going towards those rather than boxes which I get from a lot of bulk sites. Very big fan and I'm real psyched about this next order.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Oh drat I gotta pay you for a lucky ticket!

I've been going way overboard with my cigars lately, so I'm sticking with pipes for at least a few days. Looking forward to putting in a larger order for some sticks when I'm back from vacation, though!

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Just popped in an order for Boswell tobaccos - not sure who recommended them, but I'm looking forward to it. Also eyeing down a really massive pipe so I can dump these chemicals in more efficiently

I got some Kirkland blended Canadian whisky yesterday, and that's quite pleasant. I'm not familiar with Canadian whiskies, but it comes highly recommended and it's cheap as hell. I'm looking forward to making some cocktails with it!

Looking forward to camping for 4-5 days starting this weekend. I'm extra glad I'm smoking my pipes because now that it's been a few days, this Papa Frita is banging.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



I use Smoking Pipes pipe locator to figure things out. I got a variety of fairly affordable pipes with different characteristics to figure out what I like.

First, I determined that I like pipes with filters. I tried 6mm and 9mm pipes and tried balsa and activated carbon filters. I found that I generally prefer the activated carbon filters.

From there, I'm working on bowl geometry. I'm preferring wider bowls, so that's where I'm going next on them.

Additionally, I generally enjoy pipes under 6" in length because I like the warmth. This can be compensated for with bowl geometry in many cases.

I've tried a few shapes, and I don't think outside of bowl and length shapes being impacted that I particularly prefer certain formats. It's feeling a little more mood-based than performance.

All these things can be filtered for with the Pipe Locator, so I'm being a bit more methodical about it. From there, I guess you can find pipes anywhere that fit the criteria you want to try.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Oh poo poo that sounds great, I'm a massive fan of Malört, fernets, Campari, all that. I'm putting in for that asap

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



I had heard that drying out pipe tobacco was A Thing, but it felt like a thing that was not really necessary. I did it on accident and it's a real big deal. I gotta figure out how to dry all the tobacco I've got.

Camping is nice, and I installed my first humidor expansion drawer before I left. By the time I get back, it should be up to humidity and I'll have found out if something in there has ruined all my smokes



The top drawer is the new one.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



I've heard mixed opinions from some folks, so I'm just testing on that rack for now. I'm probably going to order some Spanish cedar veneers to get on there, but the base is still the Spanish cedar it came with, so at least it's only touching the Spanish.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Yo this Boswell Northwoods is great. It hits all my buttons for Presbyterian mixture, but is readily available and I can get a big rear end jar's worth if I want. Extremely pleased with this.

I'm really excited to try the Berry Cobbler and Spice & Nice that I ordered as well.

E: all three of these are super winners. The Northwoods has a great sweet undertone that's just out of this world. It reminds me of caramel.

Spice & Nice I think is a majority Cavendish, really great overall. Simple profile, but quite satisfying.

The Berry Cobbler is great. It starts really sweet and turns rather spicy, probably the most dramatic flavor turn I've encountered in pipe tobacco so far.

NewFatMike fucked around with this message at 05:05 on May 27, 2021

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015





I'm at Up Down for the foreseeable, I'll be posting periodic updates

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Each one gets its own for the depravity involved here.

The tobacco filtered itself, so we've punched closer to the ember and that's working

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015





Increasingly engineered solutions are required.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015





We've had a photo shoot

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015





We're going to try it in chunks now. A smaller one to start.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



The nub is a success!

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015





The snacks are something else, but it's going great! Gonna hit the entire remainder shortly. We've got about a foot left.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015





Taking a burrito break, then I'm heading into the full remainder!

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015





Still a little thin, but we're achieving some degree of success! We'll see how the remaining amount goes.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015





The end is nigh! It's actually finally starting to pick up in strength, which is great. It's starting to feel like a proper cigar now!

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015





We have to head home, but that's not stopping me!!!!

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



The deed... Is done



It wasn't a great cigar experience, but it was fun as hell getting egged on at the shop and sharing in the total disbelief of fellow customers. I won't do it again, but I'm saving the massive cellophane wrapper as some sort of trophy to my appetite for the utterly grotesque.

Not bad for $30.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Gobbless ye! My longest before this was the Don Pepin Garcia Exclusivo at 9" x 46 or so. Certainly the maximum for any reasonable smoke, but I heard Asylum will be releasing a 9" x 90.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



The My Father Fonseca Robusto is magnificent. Now I'm not sure if I want to get a box of these or the Cosacos...

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



I got that in about 5 hours. We lost about 3 inches to experimentation, so give or take.

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



I asked the folks at Up Down what a good starter Steve Saka stick, and was recommended the Sobremesa Elegante en cedro. Very psyched to see how this Churchill goes down.



Follow up: this is super great. It channels a lot of the sweet woodiness that I recall from a Monty No. 2, a certain Cuban quality about it, and then it builds into a strong Nicaraguan profile. A sweet base, strong red and black pepper now in the final third, and cedar. From time to time a candy flavor pops in. Not cloying, and just around long enough to not wear out its welcome.

I do think this cigar fits the price point. That's saying something because I'm not huge on cigars that price into the teens and upwards. I think this is a great cigar that doesn't require constant engagement to really appreciate, though, like the Hors d'Ages series does, and really most of the premium brands I enjoy.

I'll definitely recommend this after a big meal, especially a celebratory one.

NewFatMike fucked around with this message at 17:39 on May 29, 2021

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Local cigar shop just opened up nearby - it's a satellite for a lounge out in the suburbs. Looks like it's run by a BOTL guy named Mario. Single cabinet humidor, not a terrible selection given the constraints.

I picked up one of his house blends - called the Culture 1011. Boasts a Sumatra wrapper, mixed Dominican and Nicaraguan binder and a broadleaf filler.

It reminds me of a Curivari Buenaventura with slightly more defined flavor. Not bad, but the same notes pretty much throughout the entire smoke. I won't buy it again, but I don't regret it either.

I may have something I know that'll be good tonight - probably that last Fonseca Robusto to celebrate my last full vacation day.

Anything special on the radar for the long weekend for y'all?

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



These L'Atelier Travailleurs are something else. The Atlantic price on a box of 15 Lat56s is pretty good. I might get that and a pack of 5 x 10s when they come back.

These are fabulous. Brown sugar, spice, wood, wheat, and grass. I can't wait for the larger vitola.

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NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015



Gramps, I'm making a run for the multi posting crown at this rate

I realized what those Travailleurs remind me of: Trinidad shorts. Maybe my favorite Cuban flavor profile, if I bought them I would essentially be back to cigarettes.

I have the LAT56 in my hands and I'm keeping some notes below:

Pre Smoke:

First, these are allegedly modeled after the Cohiba Behike series, and the comparison is not totally unwarranted. I think in 2012 or so when these first came out that the resurgent pigtail was somewhat less recognized.

The wrapper has gotten a lot of hype. The Garcias developed this hybrid for the Oliva family, from whom they source a lot of tobacco. It's called the "Spiritus Sancti" - a hybrid Criollo and Pelo de Oro plant. I'm not familiar with Pelo de Oro (hair/head of gold) - but it's a mold resistance decision. If it's anything like tea and greener smokes, the hairier the leaves, the better.

This thing is oily. Real oily. No hair on the leaves like I hypothesized, so I'm guessing that it's closer to "head of gold" for the wrapper name.

The foot smells mighty fruity, the wrapper smells chocolatey and leathery with a citrus/tang character hiding in there.

The pigtail is cute, but when clipped I'm getting some deep earthy fig.

The dry pulls are wood, chocolate, and sweet nuts. It certainly has the oily character of a lot of nuts like pistachio.

Let's crack in

FIRST THIRD

As with most Tatuaje/MF factory smokes, there is a fair amount of opening spice, but it passes. There's some fantastic butter and oak flavor, as well as that citrus/tang note floating around in the back.

On the retrohale, there is a fantastic full cream that comes into sweet wood as you heat up the cherry. The smoke filled my nose so much it was like an effervescent meringue.

There is a definitely Cuban profile at work here. I haven't had a Cohiba besides a Short in a long time, but I'll be keeping this cigar in mind while I smoke an 11 year old Siglo II on my birthday. It definitely feels like someone took a larger format Monte and cranked up the "savory" and "rich" dials. Maybe that is the Cohiba profile? I can't recall.

This cigar changes a lot with resting it. Putting the stick down for a moment to get some water and whisky brought out incredibly sweet cedar and oak.

This third is wrapping up, but I'm starting to get the same notes from those Travailleurs: wheat and grass are starting to show up, and it's so rich. If that's a standout flavor from the Centurion and DPG Blue, here's another fantastic stick it lives in.

SECOND THIRD

A nice, mild caramel has shown up to complement the other flavors. Spice is starting to pick up, currently it's a detectable, enjoyable level. Again, the richness cannot be overstated.

I've had to make a sandwich in the middle of this to keep going at it. It's a lot of cigar!

The nicotine level is much more tolerable now, and I'm really able to just delight in the sweet cocoa, mild caramel, and wheat-grass flavor.

There aren't a ton of ups and downs and shifts in flavor profile. It's just so drat good. This overall level of sweetness is rare.

FINAL THIRD

This is a big boy. It's really great. The ash is flaky, but holds a few inches at a time. It's developing this fermented funk, which is a big favorite flavor of mine. The other flavors are also staging a comeback, with the pepper picking up in strength. Vanilla and cream are also popping back in.

Amaretto is the final form of that vanilla cream flavor, and the effect is quite sensational as this smoke begins to wind down. The effervescence is too much to retrohale at this point, but it's a wonderful woody flavor

CONCLUSION:

This cigar is a monster. It's really more fitting after a big, big meal. I really loved it! The Speciales from L'Atelier are even stronger, which may be worth checking out.

I didn't want it to finish, which is always the sign of a good smoke. I'll certainly be picking up a box of these to keep in the humidor for special occasions. It's regular production, too, which is fabulous! It certainly carries a lot of the marks of a high-end Habano, and in many ways exceeds the ones I have experience with.

This certainly commands more attention than, say, the Sobremesa I had the other day does. It wants you to pay attention. I just found a tangerine looking for a post-smoke snack, and I think having one or two of these on hand or a square or two of chocolate might really just add the extra garnish the smoke needs to stay in there.

I want to compare it in some ways to the La Aurora 115th Belicosos which I love so much. The richness and character are certainly there, along with that delicious fermentation funk. The CAO Pilon has that in spades as well.

I'm buying a box, and it's made me that much more appreciative of how exquisite the Travailleurs are, as they carry a lot of the flavor without requiring a multihour session, and you can get away with not paying loads of attention to them. All in, a blistering success for my last day of a 10 day vacation!

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