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Strumpie
Dec 9, 2012

Julius CSAR posted:

Performative autobans are the dumbest loving thing. Even dumber since the posters posting are people no has ever heard of lol

that autoban with the bbw furry porn was pretty good though

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El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider

Julius CSAR posted:

Performative autobans are the dumbest loving thing. Even dumber since the posters posting are people no has ever heard of lol

Spinz posted:

Every one of you I see I recognize and it's like a knife in the gut.

Please consider :love:

Hmm

Hell Yeah
Dec 25, 2012

wow can't believe people have such a problem with the cool and valid stanford prison experiment.

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

I've read every post any goon ever made sad inside computer toucher

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

El_Elegante posted:

autobanning is the only morally correct thing to do

hmmm

astral
Apr 26, 2004

Cuveball Sliders posted:

The thing is even with Lowtax leaving there's no real indication anything around here will actually change. Getting Lowtax out is a necessary first step but the moderation structure that allowed him to control the narrative around his abuse needs to change as well to keep this from happening again, because this will happen again and it has happened before (Mods Knew has been a catchphrase around here for a longass time, back to the days of aartrek).

[...]

The problem is nothing has happened since this came out to indicate that anything about the structure that enabled this is going to change. Big decisions have been made with the same lack of justification and apparent capriciousness as ever. Good organizations hold people in authority accountable for their decisions and make them aware when they falter, this place is set up to outright avoid transparency or accountability and couch it behind a layer of irony so anyone asking questions is taking it too seriously.

Jeffrey is on record saying that any of those kinds of changes will come after he assumes ownership. A couple of those quotes are conveniently collected in the QCS thread "Can we get a statment on if anything is going to happen wrt admins/mods?"

quote:

What's happened since the sale was announced? The largest thread discussing Lowtax's abuse was closed and the OP permabanned. JakeP was a lovely poster but the thing is he's always been a lovely poster so perma'ing him now for lovely posting doesn't really hold up. The thread was a gigantic spout of shitposting but it had been that for weeks and was actually getting more readable at that point. None of this was explained and none of the decision making was justified until this was specifically requested in the QCS thread requesting it be reopened (shockingly now closed). In the meantime you can go through the septic tank to see multiple attempts to revive the thread that immediately got closed and moved, some of which were probably justified but others (like this one and this one) that look absolutely reasonable.

I don't think there's a grand mod conspiracy to keep this quiet, but the way this site is structured is that mods hold the key, you paid 10 bucks to post here at their pleasure. They can close threads they don't like, probate/ban posters they don't like or who try to call them out, and if you don't pay extra for PM's then there's no real way to contest those decisions or even ask for clarification. Sure you can go to QCS and see if they'll bother to respond but you're more likely to be drowned out by the brown nosing regulars over there. Anywhere there's authority without accountability there's no incentive to make decisions for the actual good of the community.

That thread and JakeP were discussed (to death) in the QCS thread "Why won't you let us keep posting in the Yikeseroo thread?"

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This thread has been super interesting because it further highlights how Lowtax got away with his abuse and the extent to which he made this site and community complicit. Even mods aren't transparent to other mods, everyone has their own little area and are completely in the dark to the other areas. Lowtax could show up and create whatever narrative he wanted and most of them seem to have said "not my business", thrown out or rubberstamped some bans or ignored it entirely, and moved on.

[...]

I honestly almost never posted outside Let's Play before this and am so boring I've never even been probated in 13 years, yet just by paying to be here and viewing the ads I financially contributed to the emotional, physical, and legal abuse of 4 women. If this site was organized in a way that decision making was transparent and communication to or between mods was open the whole picture would have been visible years ago, LadyAmbien may not have had to flee to a shelter and Logan Day may never have left Utah. It sucks, this was a really funny place to lurk but at this point I was only hanging around to see if this place was actually going to change and it looks like that's been answered.

Posters and mods alike tend to be pretty siloed into a handful of forums (or, for undoubtedly many users, a handful of bookmarks). I disagree with what seems to be a conclusion that this siloing somehow contributed to the abuse, though. Rubber-stamped bans definitely have the potential to be bad and are hopefully not a thing that happens at this point.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Lmao scarboil & kiwifarms? Yikes at least he didn't post on 4chan

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider
Is 4chan really worse than kiwifarms?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo
I can’t believe someone would admit to only posting in Let’s Play. That should be a ban +30 lol

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe
*autobans self*



HEH I SHOWED THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :grin:

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Bet you wouldn't do it, you chicken poo poo coward :rolleyes:

Noblesse Obliged
Apr 7, 2012

If you autoban then technically that makes you a mod


Don’t be a mod

Macasaurus
Oct 12, 2012

Hell Yeah posted:

wow can't believe people have such a problem with the cool and valid stanford prison experiment.

more like the stanturd prison experiment!

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019




I will never stop autobanning myself, in fact I'm doing it right now!!

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Chinatown posted:

*autobans self*



HEH I SHOWED THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :grin:

Messed up

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Goon autobans self, becomes good mod

Kingo Ligma
Aug 24, 2019

Fuck yeah cinema is finally dead

sure okay posted:

The phrase "There is no ethical consumption under capitalism" is both extremely true and extremely pertintent to this dilemma. The moral benefit of making a public stand against an accused abuser over a 10 dollar forum account is wiped out by existing in an air conditioned room for 10 minutes. Or drinking a bottled water.

I'm not going to go out of my way to buy more forums poo poo, but I see all leavers as extreme hippocrites until proven otherwise. Y'all aren't living off the grid on some commune, posting from the only phone NOT made by foreign slave labor.

"I guess we shouldn't try to improve society at all then!" is the common counter-argument. Sure, but THIS is what you choose? This dead gay forum is your public stand? Not buying it. No one is buying what you're selling.

Sure, ok.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!
I'm never walking away because I am emotionally incapable, some could say an addict also mentally ill for these forums. I'll never log off

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The Cubelodyte
Sep 1, 2006

Practicing Hypnolaw since 1990
Grimey Drawer
Spinz if this place does go tits up and you find an actual decent place to land, please announce it. I prefer my Internet life with your posts in it.

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