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This is my first attempt at an effort post so if it sucks sorry ya'll. I'm going to be honest with you and say straight out I don't even think I can explain this game fully. Like if you've played a Romancing Saga game before you know that they can have some weird mechanics and this game is no different. This is where I feel this game is much different vs other gatcha games. So this is a gatcha game but it does have a twist that seems to set it apart from other lovely gatcha games and so far its not evil (this seems to hold true for the JPN version too). There are three different ranks of characters SS, S, and A but! the SS characters are not automatically better vs. an S or even an A in some cases. Take a look through this as it has some good explanations for the mechanics in the game, https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1r28Rq8xoGxAo_yrt_CL8n434Gdy0uWMVGt8idDabo60/mobilepresent?slide=id.p This is a really good explanation from the gatcha thread, Visual Basic Bitch posted:I don't have it in me to maintain an OP or add pretty pictures and stuff but here's an effort post on the most central mechanic that IMO is the most confusing part of the game. The material I saw floating around on reddit was poorly written, incomplete, or assumed you were on the JP client. Or videos that were way too long for me to give a single poo poo about. This is basically the core concept of like 99% of what makes this game unique compared to other gacha JRPGs. Feel free to steal this for whatever. Or don't idgaf These are the S and A characters you should be on the lookout for. quote:There's several S/A units that go unnoticed due to their rank, but can be on any SS level due to their abilities and skills. I picked the top six, yet others can be relevant due to skill inheritance, or being a hard counter to certain enemies. Suggested Order for leveling your dudes up. quote:Finish Chapter 1 - Normal quote:Different Element Composition Later game location to farm weapons for your dudes quote:So you want to know where to farm for S Rank weapons? Well, I’ll show you all of the best places to farm them. This is a link to a good spreadsheet with lots of info https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16FeXhcRAl7JFmsxnLySe85o-AoY_7N328HYRo5W3LBE/edit#gid=1329203769 Also save your expedition skip tickets till you get the final expedition since its the best use of tickets and you can get some dudes battle ready really quick that way. Lastly Do not pull for dupes! you can slowly get the pieces you need from the training cave and or universal gold ones. gently caress it there is a lot more poo poo to explain but that covers most of the weird poo poo. The game is pretty light on anime titties but here are some Santa Titties for y'all. Re: Training Dojo - Expand it with gems and put dudes in there ASAP! Its the only way to get gold shards for your SS dudes and level them up to 42. Do not neglect the Training Dojo! We don't have a dedicated Discord for this but we have set up a channel in the DFOO discord that is pretty active so if you don't wanna post a question there come in and say hi and we can figure this poo poo out together. https://discord.gg/kgmDqCw Edit fixed discord link MarcusSA fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jul 19, 2020 |
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I'm super into the game, as a long-time SaGa fan.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 21:08 |
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Nice! Game is fun, or will be more fun once I pull Rouge . Thanks for the extra info. Title suggestion: "From: Romancing Saga. Subject: Re; Universe"
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 21:45 |
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OP looks good.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 22:07 |
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hello I am desperately addicted to this game but fortunately have only spent $10 or so on it. hopefully I can keep it that way as long as possible I hope the character/style explainer is useful for all of you! I'm happy to impart whatever wisdom I have over the game's various systems if any of you have questions. I am not terribly good at answering "is [style] good?" or "how do I beat [mission]?" type questions though. I know how the game works, not how to be good at it. Well, outside of "just grind a lot" anyway.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 22:57 |
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SirBukkake posted:Nice! Game is fun, or will be more fun once I pull Rouge . Thanks for the extra info. I took advantage of the half stamina event and well... I ended up loading bluestacks and making a macro to keep doing that stage over and over for two days straight. I managed to go from rank 90 to 140 over those two days with very little interaction from me. The only thing I would do is change the party up every so often so some random dudes got XP. The nice thing about this game is that it doesn’t freak out when your inventory is full so you can just keep autoing.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 23:40 |
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Oh also two other things I forgot about! Where to get extra stamina potions. You can get 4 extra a week from the ore exchange So don’t forget to buy those every week and spend your ore on whatever other character you want (S Undine is the best choice if you haven’t pulled her). The second set of stamina potions refreshes every month but it’s a little more convoluted on how you get them. Just sell off a few poo poo A pieces for white crystals and get some stamina potions. IGNORE THE TICKET it’s whale bait. You need 4 of them to make make a whole ticket and it’s probably never going to be worth it.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 23:53 |
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Honestly I've been prioritizing the gold pieces over stamina potions as far as white crystals go. Stamina really hasn't been a limiting factor for me very much in this game, and while dojo training is nice it's pretty slow.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 00:05 |
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This game is surprisingly good and fun. I hope more games adapt the style system because it's really refreshing to be excited for pulling a lower rarity tier unit from the gacha or an event and knowing that you can actually benefit from them instead of them being a waste of effort because they're not super rare.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 00:28 |
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Got into this game about a week ago. Got a nice spread of characters on my early rolls with all versions of Gerard, Hector, Katrina and Rouge, and they (alongside Sophia) have been carrying me most of the way. Gerard has been a pretty amazing Counter Tank when putting him front and center for stat bonuses, and Hector and Katrina are practically self-sustaining. Rogue and Sophia need no explanation. Though I will admit that I had no idea that Parry was a thing. Now I need to see if the Albert I've got has it, else start leveling up Bear. I also invested some time in ranking up versions of Sif, Valdor, and Flurry for some physical Fire, Thunder and Ice attacks that have come in really handy for more than a few bosses. Looking to invest in Leonid now that I got his S version too. I really do like the fact that Ranking isn't the end-all and be-all for characters and stats, vs team synergy and paying attention to weaknesses and resistances.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 00:36 |
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Visual Basic Bitch posted:Honestly I've been prioritizing the gold pieces over stamina potions as far as white crystals go. Stamina really hasn't been a limiting factor for me very much in this game, and while dojo training is nice it's pretty slow. Yeah this is true too. I've got a stockpile of like 100+ potions at this point. Tortolia posted:This game is surprisingly good and fun. I hope more games adapt the style system because it's really refreshing to be excited for pulling a lower rarity tier unit from the gacha or an event and knowing that you can actually benefit from them instead of them being a waste of effort because they're not super rare. Yeah I 100% agree with this. It actually encourages you to use your lower rarity dudes which is nice because they aren't actually gimped since they share the same stat pools.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 00:37 |
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I didn't include this in the OP since its kinda IMO more of a poop socking thing vs what most people are actually going to do. quote:This topic's very convoluted if you're beginning, after all. The bolded part I'm not exactly sure about because AFAIK once you cap the STR on the SS version you can still swap to the A version and then cap it on them. I don't think you can perma gimp any of your dudes. One other thing that was pointed out in Discord is that you'll cap your stats long before you cap your HP so if you just keep an eye on your stats and swap the styles around as they cap you'll cap everything anyway. The google sheet I linked at the end of the OP details the stat caps for all the characters so you can refer to that if you think you are close. I'm not going to worry about min / maxing which one to work on first but someone might wanna
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 00:43 |
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This is a pretty good guide for what to shoot for written in a little more detail vs what is in the OP. quote:Want to know what stages you should be farming during the limited time half stamina event? Well, you have come to the right place.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 00:48 |
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As someone thats never played a SaGa game I found this initially very confusing, but Im really starting to get hooked on it. I like the passive skill gain from doing dungeons and stuff, and while the style system was initially pretty awkward its grown on me and is a unique system.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 01:28 |
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Bear is the best that is all. I'm digging the game so far though the story has been kinda eh. MarcusSA posted:Later game location to farm weapons for your dudes Note the difference between stat and stat+ is 1 point so it's probably not worth hard farming for the +.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 01:52 |
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Hi posted:As someone thats never played a SaGa game I found this initially very confusing, but Im really starting to get hooked on it. The remakes of the SNES games were on sale recently.
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LIMBO KING posted:
Yeah probably not. Its more of an end game thing I guess. Also one other thing that the game does really well is that it doesn't overly penalize you for failing a run. You don't get all of the stamina back but you do get most of it back if you fail so don't be worried about trying!
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 03:05 |
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The best place to farm stats is 4-1-5 which drops katars so it's probably best to wait until you get an agi+ one to max it out.
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So far I love the game, not surprising since I've loved SaGa for a long time but still, but even so I'm hitting a pretty big wall. I can do hilarious amounts of damage with my team, but surviving the waves I don't instakill is kinda rough. For example, it feels like RNG whether or not I survive rank 6 training cave, depending on how many techs the ogres decide to use, despite my pretty much stat maxed characters. I know my armor's definitely lacking, being only single evolved +5 B rank armor, but I kinda want to save up my resources until I get some nice S rank equips at the very least. Yet I can't make it past 4-2-1 Hard, and even the early Very Hard stages are doing a number on me. Is there a trick I'm missing?
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:So far I love the game, not surprising since I've loved SaGa for a long time but still, but even so I'm hitting a pretty big wall. Are you using a different formation like Imperial cross? I've found that formations help immensely especially when you have a decent tank out front. What does your main team look like?
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MarcusSA posted:Are you using a different formation like Imperial cross? I've found that formations help immensely especially when you have a decent tank out front. Primarily I'm using SS Alkaiser, SS Ellen, SS Katarina, SS Christmas Ginny, and SS Rouge. Kind of a personal weakness is that I tend to default to characters I know and like, and ignore most others.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Primarily I'm using SS Alkaiser, SS Ellen, SS Katarina, SS Christmas Ginny, and SS Rouge. Kind of a personal weakness is that I tend to default to characters I know and like, and ignore most others. Yeah you are gonna wanna run a healer in there and change your formation up too. I don't have Alkaiser so I can't say anything about that character but having a healer on the team as you are progressing really helps. If you don't want do that the alternative is to just find a stage and grind it with your main team till you can power your way through the content but even still RNG can totally gently caress you. Edit: Also the christmas events have armor you can buy for your dudes. MarcusSA fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Jul 10, 2020 |
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Primarily I'm using SS Alkaiser, SS Ellen, SS Katarina, SS Christmas Ginny, and SS Rouge. Kind of a personal weakness is that I tend to default to characters I know and like, and ignore most others. What Marcus said, you need a healer. Sophia is free and a beast as she has several styles available so theres lots of passive stats.. she also has an S style from the current winter event that has an inheritable low bp cost aoe ranged sun damage skill that causes darkness which is amaaaazing.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 14:47 |
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My understanding of Alkaiser is he is similar to Gustave in that he has some degree of self healing that can provide sustain but it isn't going to totally replace a healer in scenarios where healing is merited (it's selfish healing and isn't guaranteed). Sophia is very strong, and if the current banner schedule keeps up with what they had in Japan we are about a month away from Valentine's White Rose, who is apparently a healer so good she still sees significant use in their current meta.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 17:03 |
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Never before have I ever thought that the day would come where I'd be saying 'god I wish I had Final Crusade' but here we are.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 17:17 |
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God, I can't get over how good S-Undine is. If the enemies you're facing have even a small weakness to cold she tears them to shreds. And you can put healing light on her?! I have SS-Blue, Rouge, and Emerald. S-Undine is every bit as good as any of them as a pure mage.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 17:45 |
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A healer is definitely a necessity for prolonged battles, especially once you get into the tougher bosses and stuff like the Colosseum. Even if they're not the best healer, any heal skill can bring back a character from death, and a 1 HP character can still use their attack skills, after all. S Undine is absolutely a great support and A Blue is also really useful with his AoE focused build. It really pays to stop and look at people's skill sets and abilities, even if they aren't the SS version of the character you're using. Even if you stick with the higher rank version, there might be a skill or two worth Inheriting from the other ranks. See Rouge: Shadow Chains and Undine: Water of Life for abilities that elevate their higher rank versions from good units to great ones.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 18:29 |
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Yeah shadow chains was the first skill I reduced the BP on. A 2 BP paralyze with a high success rate is tough to beat. Wracking and Energy Drain being strong skills is one hell of a bonus. If any of you haven't already, it is 100% worth grinding out SS-Rouge. Takes awhile, but he's just that good.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 19:12 |
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SS Rouge is the only character I have 50/50 and no regrets blowing all that stamina on him. The fact that he is free is just icing on the cake. He really is just that good.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 19:14 |
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Just started playing this game and have pretty much no idea what I'm doing. I do like gachas though, and this seems pretty good so far! I blew all of my starting gems and got a fair number of SS characters, seems like. It looks like everyone gets SS Hector, but I also managed to pull Ellen, Ginny, Mikhail, Gerard, and Azami, which honestly seems like a pretty good haul? I kinda don't wanna reroll, rerolling is always kind of a pain in the rear end anyways. I would appreciate some insight on these characters if possible, though.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 19:20 |
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I wouldn’t reroll. This game seems to throw SS dudes at you and SS characters aren’t the end all be all anyway! Which S or A characters did you get because some of them can help you a lot (S Undine A rouge A bear).
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 19:25 |
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Fair enough. I figured I'd list the SS guys because I imagine I'll drown in A and S characters soon enough. And if there's a reason to reroll, it's probably based on the SS. At the very least I got Ginny, and SaGa Frontier 2 is my favorite! As for the S and A Ranks...I don't really know which ones are good? I guess I'll just drop a screenshot here.
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 19:32 |
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As Marcus mentioned, you want to probably keep an eye out for S/A Undine, A Rouge and A Bear. A Undine for Water of Life which S Undine can Inherit A Rouge for Shadow Chains which SS Rouge can Inherit A Bear for Parry From the ones you mentioned one of the SS Gerards (the one with the green cape) is a solid Counter Tank, and I've been using him pretty consistently. Can't speak for Ellen, Ginny or the rest though.
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MarcusSA posted:Yeah I 100% agree with this. It actually encourages you to use your lower rarity dudes which is nice because they aren't actually gimped since they share the same stat pools. I really like that design choice. In fact there are several design choices that makes me wonder if the team went "what are the problems with gatchas and how do we do better?"
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 20:14 |
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I realized in the post of mine in the OP I said "Gilbert" when I meant "Gerard" because I am terrible at names
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Arzaac posted:Fair enough. I figured I'd list the SS guys because I imagine I'll drown in A and S characters soon enough. And if there's a reason to reroll, it's probably based on the SS. At the very least I got Ginny, and SaGa Frontier 2 is my favorite! Ok so nothing really stands out here but again like you said soon enough you’ll be drowning in dudes. I really don’t think rerolling in this game is a needed thing with the rates they throw things at you. Only thing I’d say right now is try and get the Christmas flurry from the event before it finishes in two days. Also you’ll be getting tickets and stuff from the launch quests so just keep using them. You’ll also get tickets from the spiral tower so use them too!
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# ? Jul 10, 2020 23:22 |
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I've been playing and enjoying this. It seems like the team building in this game is way more flexible and interesting than most gachas, and it's pretty chill to just make numbers go up by using your guys. Is there any common wisdom about which of the event/challenge content I should focus on building a team for after clearing out the christmas events? I've cleared up to Subier 11, Spiral Corridor 26 and Forest of Mystery 7.
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# ? Jul 11, 2020 22:31 |
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Rerolled into an Xmas Monika, SS Albert and SS Cat which (after doing a bunch of research) seems like as good as a start as can be hoped for. Never had much to do with Saga games but the art is dope, it has some buzz and boy am I a sucker for gacha
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 00:58 |
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Curiously the gatcha aspect really isn't the appeal for me in this one. It is the team building and development of characters. Square Enix really did a good job on this one.
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Scoss posted:I've been playing and enjoying this. You should think of raising Leonid and xmas azami if you have them to make later subier stages easier with poison as well as getting enough str jammers to make pyrohydra farming easier. The next big thing is a mostly female team for the seven heroes event which has a boss that charms males.
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