Loucks posted:

I have a model 3 in the garage and think that it’s useful to be able to share examples of lovely Tesla electric vehicle QC here, in the electric vehicle thread, even if it’s posted to the Nazi bird site. I relied on that sort of thing when we took delivery of the car as a checklist of stuff to watch out for and now just in case I missed something. Ours is great, but that doesn’t mean it’s unwise to know what you might be getting yourself into.

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Hello and welcome to your new and OTA updated Electric Vehicle thread!

3) Ownership of EV's

We know EV's do have issues. That's part of onwership of any car - and we know Teslas especially do have production problems. That's fine. Whats not fine is barging in delcaring EV's all suck, they are all frauds, govts suck for handing out subsidies etc or one particular brand is made from the skins of baby whales.

Many of us are looking to go EV as our next purchase and I would prefer it if issues are discussed with facts so informed choices can be made.

Loucks posted:

Also making fun of tesla (or any manufacturer) for being bad at making cars is funny even if they are often decent cars that are fun to drive. Weird that people get so upset about it.

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Hello and welcome to your new and OTA updated Electric Vehicle thread!

2) Musk Chat and TSLAQ is frowned on. Please take it to CSPAM : https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3862673

Alternatively if you want to avoid CSPAM, YOSPOS has Musk chat : https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3862643

big crush on Chad OMG posted:

My concern stems from the fact that people seemingly want to enforce rules for communities without engaging with them. Banning certain sites and post types because you don't personally like them without discussing it first is objectively bad.

quote:

There's plenty of people who are dissemination information in bad faith out on the wider Internet so please avoid randos on Twitter.

MomJeans420 posted:

I'm assuming they need to sell every one they make in the EU (at a loss if needed) so they can sell their high end / high margin cars and SUVs.


Too bad the Germans shut down so much of their nuclear power, although I think their coal is finally dropping. I'd like to see exactly how detailed these projections get, I'd guess none of them are the point where they're considering the increased wear and tear on the road due to the weight of EVs, necessitating more frequent repairs. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but that seems like a rabbit hole with no end.

*edit*
Actually I was just thinking of Teslas with regards to weight, I don't know how something like a Volt compares to similarly sized cars.

gwrtheyrn posted:

Roughly yeah. The golf is 2016 like all the others I've found so it's only like 87 miles range which is a little too short. Leafs are super easy to find, so that's not really a huge problem, but the potential battery issues aren't really appealing if I can get something else for a similar price.

No sales tax up to certain price thresholds...then you get your $600 annual tabs and wonder if it was all worth it , Well more like $300 since I'm not in the RTA area

big crush on Chad OMG posted:

And was sold by Tesla with those features listed at auction, so why does it matter?


- Car returned as lemon
- car listed at auction advertising x,y,z features
- dealership buys car at auction with those features listed as being present on the car
- Tesla removes features after the sale is concluded
- dealership sells car to private party, dealer is aware that the features are changed but consider it a bug since it was advertised with those features
- Tesla tells new owner to piss off, and only after they get dragged on social media do they cave

Bum the Sad posted:

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

The thought of one of the most obnoxious pieces of poo poo ever turned into a vehicle and usually owned by equally obnoxious assholes returning as a 700+KW EV is hilarious and I sooo hope it comes to pass. I think this is absoltuly brilliant by GM to blow some redneck brains

A Hummer with Bugatti Veyron type power and acceleration. Just ponder that for a bit.....

Westy543 posted:

Y'all, GM is finally spending money on building out a charging network. They're helping EVGo build 2,700 more fast chargers across the US. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/07/gm-teams-up-with-evgo-to-deploy-more-than-2700-new-dc-fast-chargers/

Legitimately shocked to see GM reverse their position on investing in charging networks.

MrLogan posted:

Yes, but I didn't think it would be this bad. Thought they'd have the process pretty automated at this point as a technology company.

I can't imagine having to deal with all this if I had a car issue.

gwrtheyrn posted:

The article said they're doing > 4 per location

quote:

GM now is war-gaming the idea as the company ponders different ways to get credit for its EV plans, though a spinoff isn’t actively being prepared, said the people, who asked not to be identified discussing internal deliberations. Barra was publicly asked about it in light of Tesla Inc.’s soaring valuation and the easy access to capital that unproven EV startups such as Nikola Corp. have pulled off by merging with blank-check companies.

“Investors are telling us every day that they are willing to invest in electric vehicles,” said Emmanuel Rosner, the Deutsche Bank analyst who asked Barra about the idea of a spinoff on July 29. “But they are doing it with electric-vehicle companies, not legacy companies.”

Beamed posted:

No daily commute (working remote almost in perpetuity, and biked to the office when it was open), but I'd probably do 20-30 miles total on any given week, with occasional 300-400 mile trips upstate, to Chicago, etc. Michigan weather so basically all kinds across the year, including snow. I would probably like to spend less than $50k, I've got good credit and can make a downpayment of probably $10k.

Humerus posted:

No it's their auto cruise control+lane keeping thing. It only works on certain roads that GM has mapped out and it uses eye tracking to make sure you're actually still looking at the road.

Humerus posted:

What a crock of poo poo, I've been looking into getting a used Bolt (so no supercruise either way) and as I understand it, to do remote preconditioning you also need OnStar? That actually really sucks because any Bolts I could afford would be done with the three year free OnStar. I'd love to have my car already cold when I'm ready to leave the beach or whatever.

Finger Prince posted:

That being said, I do understand being upset about it. Just not extremely so. Many moons ago, I looked into getting laser eye surgery. They did all these tests and took a detailed scan of my eyes and determined I had larger than normal pupils, so in order to mitigate the chance of ending up with night halos, they would have to use the custom map that they just took of my eye and plug that into the laser machine, instead of the default map. They charged several thousand dollars to do this. Same laser, same equipment, same procedure, they just plug in the custom map they already have and charge you extra for it. I still wear glasses, because gently caress, that's just shady. But they're a for-profit business, so I figure shady upselling is pretty much expected.

VideoGameVet posted:

Fortunately the Escondido dealership is EV central ... and besides I liked the Niro EV better.

And so ...



Decent 15k mile/year lease deal.

Only sad is the 110v in the garage isn’t “good enough”. So I ordered the Costco 220v/110v charger.

Didn’t realize that California has a state rebate of $2K cash either.

Westy543 posted:

Here's an ID.3 next to a Model 3 for size comparison (via Reddit):

Lord of Garbagemen posted:

Need help from people with more experience in the full ev world . I am looking between a Kona Ultimate EV or a Model 3 Long Range. The Model 3 has some more range and AWD, however I am still very wary of the whole tech company making cars. The drivetrain warranty is pretty comparable between Hyundai and Tesla. What are the out of pocket repair costs for Teslas? I have heard the horror stories about the Model X windshields and $$$$$ but nothing else. Are all the other areas of the Tesla reliable?

Boils down to worries over car company making electric car or tech company making electric car.

Charles posted:

Oh yeah the Autopilot was kind of homidical. If another car came by it would steer toward it.