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Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

Sodomy Hussein posted:

Biden has never once really entertained shoring up the extreme left wing of the party except to do one better than Hillary and have an actual amicable relationship with Bernie. Trump is just going to run on Biden being the socialist antichrist and running that against Kamala makes as little sense as possible. Everyone's moderate (D) parents love Kamala. From a strategic standpoint it's a good pick. If you were hoping for an interesting pick, not really.

Man you could cut and paste this exact same paragraph in 2016 but replace Kamala with Tim Kaine.

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Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

Republicans posted:

He lives in California so I absolutely believe him if he says he didn't vote for Trump. I also believe he would readily vote for him if he lived in a state where a republican had a chance in hell of winning.

Holy gently caress if you think Ben Shapiro didnt vote for Trump you're either trolling or the stupidest mother fucker around and that includes the Chuds.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

Republicans posted:

Why would he when he could have voted for McMuffin or something?

I'm just gonna assume you're the stupidest gimmick account and this is coming from me who does nothing but dumb gimmicks, so I'm a Ben Shapiro level expert on the matter.

If you seriously listen to that guy thought God drat I hope you got some lube for your marital relations.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

goethe.cx posted:

so I'm from Utah, and I know many otherwise left-leaning friends who voted for John Huntsman Jr. for governor. but the reason is that Huntsman was very moderate and no Democrat has a chance in hell at winning a statewide election

Yeah the Democratic candidate is polling at like, 29 percent. So glad enough people crossed over it wasn't t that psycho Hughes.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo
Id have to hope spamming the poo poo out of people non stop will do more harm than good in the end

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo
Just listened to Bidens speech and it was good and exceeded my expectations. He is pandering completely to the "Holy poo poo make it stop I can not take anymore of this loving madness" crowd, but that's a really sizable portion of the population right now. LOTS of people just want to pretend poo poo isn't getting worse and watch the Bachelor in peace and Trump won't let them do that.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

Yes Pick, I am fully aware he has a message tailored to the Pick demographic. I don't even think it is a bad strategy because it might just be enough to win, but in the long term I don't know if it makes sense. Plenty of people right now just want a god drat time out right now though and I can understand it.

*edit - I would enjoy the timeout so I don't have to immediately flee to NZ as well. I need to figure out how well a taco cart would work down there.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

Pick posted:

who................. cares. it's not that bad. he got a cushy fake board position. all board positions are fake. a potato could do it. seriously.

he didn't even do anything wrong with it. he got paid to do nothing. trump got impeached over that nothing burgre.

Literally this.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

punishedkissinger posted:

corruption being easy and commonplace doesnt seem like a good excuse?

It isn't a good one, but on a scale of terrible I'd put Trumps scion as a much larger threat to democracy and any attempt at things being better than Hunter Biden whose ambitions seem to just be cashing in on his dads name with no larger implications than that.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

punishedkissinger posted:

Yeah I dont really disagree with this. I guess I just think it's weird how so many people have to reflexively insist that Biden has done nothing wrong and that Hunter isnt a fascinating and bizarre fuckup

He is 100 percent a failson and it probably sucks he couldn't live up to the son actually being groomed to be a politician, but I don't for one second think he has ambitions to inherit some "God Emperor" crown from his dad.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

BigglesSWE posted:

Unless Joe intends to put Hunter in a official position with responsibilities of statesmanship I don’t really think any and all nepotism-claims can really stick, when you got Kushner running around the Middle East trying to tape together a peace deal with his background of “married the favorite daughter of Orange baby” as his only accomplishment.

Not to mention Ivanka herself, being put in a lot of political contexts where she absolutely does not belong in any way, shape or form. The nepotism at display from the current administration is loving hideous, and any country worthy of it’s democratic pretenses would clamp down on it big time.

Yeah again all this. Plenty of legit poo poo to hate Biden for, but his lovely fail son is pretty low on the list of actual concerns.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo
the Hunter Biden attacks would have a lot more credence if Joe Biden was like McConnell and clearly had massively profited while being a Senator but as far as I know that wasn't the case. lovely kids have been cashing in on their parents names forever and yes it is loving repulsive but gently caress I don't even know how its an equivalency to Trumps crotch spawn.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

punishedkissinger posted:

this is a good point. i think my inherent hatefulness towards the rich rear end in a top hat ruling class might be coloring my feelings on Hunter in general.

Yeah this is very fair because gently caress him for getting a do nothing job that paid more a month than most of us make in a year, but he is small loving potatoes in the grand scheme of the capitalist ghouls raping us all.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

punishedkissinger posted:

are you equating making money from your job as senator to using your fathers position as to secure millions of dollars from a Ukranian Oil company?

this os where you lose me. if you want to argue that corruption is commonplace, fine. if youre trying to argue this isnt corruption, i really cannot wrap my head around that.

edit: i think some of you may be conflating nueroliminal's posts with mine a bit here

"Legally" no it isn't crime. Should it be? I'd say yes. It is the same poo poo all the rich kid fail son and daughters grow up with. I grew up outside DC in not even the "Elite" connected group of families and know plenty of people coasting on jobs from their family connections that aren't at the Hunter Biden level. It is just a hosed up reality of our society right now and I don't know if you can even stamp that out in a full communism now society, but I'd sure loving prefer it to be an egalitarian system.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

Space Gopher posted:

There's definitely corruption and bribery (or at least attempted corruption and bribery) going on. But, by all accounts, it's just Hunter Biden being shady and trying to sell access and favors he doesn't have. There hasn't been any evidence that, when somebody pays off Hunter, Joe actually does them any favors. Even when Trump was using the US diplomatic corps to try to dig up or fabricate that evidence, it never came up.

So, there's corruption - but how is it relevant to the presidential election, or USPol in general, besides a very general statement on the failed children of powerful people?

If anything it shows how dumb loving Nazi Despots are anywhere where they think paying Joe Bidens failson is a good investment.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

punishedkissinger posted:

I think Joe should have maybe intervened to stop it but Im sure a bunch of people are gonna scream at me about how unreasonable that is.

To a certain extent how do you stop your adult child from doing something lovely? I have no idea if he tried or didn't or turned a blind eye, and it certainly puts Biden in a lovely spot so I can't imagine he is happy about it. Obviously yes it would be better for him to have gone "gently caress you failson I disown you over this shady poo poo" but that is a line most parents don't cross for a variety of reasons.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo
Sure I guess? His fail son is a piece of poo poo taking advantage of the family name. Not sure any political system will prevent that poo poo from happening to be honest. Some dumbass people in Ukraine thought having Hunter Biden on their board would benefit them and well what proof do we have that actually happened?

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

LMFAO God drat we deserve whatever is coming to us in the US

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

Ugh one of my ex interns is on his campaign and I thought I did a good job making him not fall into GOP extremism but welp here we are.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

Grondoth posted:

That's gotta hurt, man.

I mean I am in Utah and he had already worked in DC for the GOP before in undergrad, and he wasn't a total kool aid drinker but then he got a full time job with an ultra conservative think tank and well, only one way to go from there. I'd like to think he's mainly in it for a steady pay check but am pretty sure he's gone full Jonestown.

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo
I'm about to be donating money and time to my local Succdem in McAdams in Utah because jesus loving christ his opponent is some carpet bagging QANON nut. One of my former interns is working for Burgess too so even bigger reason to oppose him. McAdams is the poo poo tier blue dog we all hate but id rather have him than a Qanon supporting trump humper.

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Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

That Old Tree posted:

That's it, I can't possibly vote for Biden after this extravagant display of wealth. My vote's going to the guy with the golden toilet.

Yeah was just about ready to bite a bullet and vote Biden but that fucker ate ice cream.

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