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Trump and the GOP turning into the openly pro-viral proliferation party has really made the  BOTH SIDES ARE THE SAME talk look intensely loving stupid, hasn't it?IBroughttheFunk posted:It really is unbelievable that during a time of multiple crises, in the White House everyone's focus is making sure that the president's fee-fees aren't getting too hurt. Where have you been the last
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:allow me to introduce you to Andrew "go out and hit up the bar, we can't let this thing damage the economy" Cuomo, my friend You mean the guy who just issued an executive order to impose a 2 week quarantine on all out of state visitors from states with higher infection rates, while the governor of Georgia just banned localities from even just requiring masks in public places? Cuomo is a dildo but there's still no equivalency on this issue.
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Jul 16, 2020 16:09
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Herstory Begins Now posted:DHS, they're currently on twitter trying to launch some weird propaganda campaign against violent portland anarchists who just won't stop grafittiing stuff (that's not a joke) DHS dildos dressing as the army and then trying to play to patriotism lmao I mean gently caress those guys, it's terrible, but it's also so loving pathetic.
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Jul 17, 2020 14:59
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Spiritus Nox posted:I basically stopped believing in this as a reasonable possibility after we saw all the establishment military/cabinet figures sprint away from the messaging around the St. Johns Church incident. There's probably an alternate timeline where everyone involved felt comfortable saying "gently caress you" and pounding their chest over it after the fact, but the fact that they were all too scared to do so does not suggest to me that there's a great appetite for a militarized coup around Trump right now even if he decides to ask for one. I just don't think the GOP is scared enough of Joe goddamn Biden to get that desperate. It's hard to have a military coup when a majority of military officers have actually wanted you to gently caress off in every poll since like mid 2017 or something.
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Jul 19, 2020 17:32
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Meatball posted:And following the funeral procession to his final resting place? An endless line of people who would like to defile his grave with various bodily substances. It will become an annual american tradition: poo poo in the Donald Trump grave/port o john. I have a sledgehammer, a quart of cold brew coffee and a box of Fiber One bars, let's go. 
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Jul 19, 2020 19:15
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^^ also thisPick posted:why did trump's people even let him talk to wallace. what an embarrassment. They don't actually control him. Nobody ever did, and the people who even briefly kinda-sorta did got fired. Trump in fact makes a poor puppet for anyone. He doesn't pay attention, he doesn't know poo poo, and he's too lazy to try to learn. Any agenda he seems to follow is purely coincidental and will be contradicted in the time it takes to make a trip to the shitter to tweet again.
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Jul 19, 2020 19:45
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Trump isn't a person, not even a bad one. Part of the secret of his success is that there's nothing loving there, but psychologically normal humans can't imagine another person being that empty, so they project meaning onto him. Even his enemies keep crediting him with some kind of roundabout cunning that is demonstrably not loving there. Even Extremely Online Leftists who hate him as much as the law allows them to admit post here trying to figure out what the latest thing Trump did "means" every goddam day. It means nothing, it never meant anything. Trump doesn't read or plan, he doesn't have ideology, he barely THINKS in any meaningful sense. Everything is an impulse decision that emerges from a random grab-bag of prejudices that were set in stone half a loving century ago. Djarum posted:Well to be fair there is one master he has do the bidding of without issue since the beginning. It is incredible how well he has done what Putin has wanted. 99% of what Putin wants is just him to be in the office and to poo poo up America generally, which is just what Trump would do anyway. Trump being a thirsty bitch for every dictator under the sun is just his daddy issues writ as large as possible.
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Jul 19, 2020 20:02
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mcmagic posted:I don't think you can point to any politician that has been punished for partisanship. On either side. The distinction is between looking partisan and being partisan. The public loves when people put on a show of not being partisan. Actually trying to sincerely make deals with the GOP instead of loving them over as hard as possible is just dumb though. "Bipartisanship" is fine as a catchphrase because the public likes to hear it, but that's all. Where Democrats get in trouble (or are willfull assholes depending on your interpretation) is treating bipartisanship as a real thing that's worth attempting. sexpig by night posted:also fun to read right now, 'run up the score', considering that was literally clinton's strategy. This is kind of a worthless criticism, since all politicians try to win by as much as possible. From what we've seen of his campaign so far, Biden is probably not going to blow off allocating resources in swing states to try to win Texas like Clinton did. Like they're both lovely centrists, but so far Biden's campaign has shown a basic level of political savvy that Clinton never did.
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Jul 20, 2020 15:12
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Gatts posted:So what’s going on there? Besides murder most foul. Fort Hood is an absolutely immense installation that's full of empty space (it's 335 square miles!), so it's a fantastic place to dispose of a body.
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Jul 22, 2020 14:40
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Smeef posted:I'm really curious to see how many fuckhead USG careerists that stayed in their agencies and bent to the will of Trump policies and appointees to save their own asses will get their comeuppance under a new administration. I hear a lot of defenses of them as if they're the internal resistance, but in my experience they're little better than collaborators. Like uh who do you mean by "USG careerists"? What rank/level/whatever are you talking about? Anybody seeking out a job in Trump's cabinet is almost certainly human garbage, yeah. But should random postal clerks quit and bankrupt their families in the middle of a pandemic/economic crash to give Trump a symbolic finger or something?
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Jul 22, 2020 16:55
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HONG KONG SLUMLORD posted:The funny point about American capitalism is that the second step after “bumping minimum wages and offering affordable/free healthcare” is “people have more disposable income and buy poo poo, resulting in a stronger economy” but we’ve never actually done the first step to see the second come to fruition. The problem is IRL capitalism is dumb as poo poo and only looks at maximizing profits THIS VERY SECOND, not long term profit. Which itself isn't a great metric either because there is still a huge incentive to gently caress over people on many levels, but it's less stupid than how actual capitalism works where it doesn't matter if everything is turbofucked in the future as long as the next report to the shareholders looks great. Like if corporations actually wanted to maximize long term value they would push for universal health care to get that poo poo off their books, and generous welfare benefits and high minimum wages so more people could actually afford to buy their poo poo. But paying 1% more taxes might fractionally reduce the immediate profits by some minuscule but detectable amount, which must absolutely be avoided NO MATTER WHAT.
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Jul 23, 2020 15:16
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It's OK. Everyone is losing their poo poo right now, it's just a question of how and at what rate. Also everyone needs to take a break from this stuff sometimes.
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Jul 26, 2020 13:43
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Chinese Gordon posted:Yeah Trump is obviously racist as gently caress, but he's also pathologically incapable of caring about anyone except in the context of how it affects him. It's this. Trump only cares about others insofar as they affect how he feels about himself. People try to understand him in terms of greed, but it's not even about money, strictly speaking. For Trump he has to be famous for being rich because it's actually about making people want to tell him how wonderful and special he is. Being an anonymous trillionare wouldn't do a thing for him. He does not care about the thoughts and feelings of other people on a level so extreme that normal humans struggle to make sense of him. People can rationally understand that George W. Bush was a historic monster, but if you put somebody maimed in one of his wars in front of him GWB would probably actually feel bad about that specific person's suffering, even if he had found a way to rationalize the mass death that his decisions caused. That's because, while he's a stupid loving bastard with terrible beliefs, emotionally speaking he's wired more or less like the rest of us. This doesn't make him "good" it just makes him a recognizably human person. Trump by contrast literally would not loving care about that person's experience, not even for a moment. He'd only care how his interaction with this person would affect his ability to get positive attention for how great Donald Trump is. The closest thing Trump ever had to a superpower was being so divorced from normal human emotional experience that it made it hard for other humans to make sense of the dumb rear end in a top hat. Everyone kept looking for some kind of underlying rationale to his awful behavior, when it was always just a string of impulse decisions to serve his ego that were totally divorced from anything else.
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Jul 31, 2020 12:39
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Obama sucked in many ways, but also the neverending circle jerk over it by the same couple posters every time somebody reminds them he exists is pretty tedious at this point IMO
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Jul 31, 2020 18:13
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socialsecurity posted:They had filibuster proof control for 72 days during which they were mainly fighting over the ACA. There were also more overtly right wing democrats in congress then. If you hate congessional dems now, as a group they even worse then. TOTAL DEM CONTROL WHY NO SOCIALISM was based on Democrats well to the right of Obama playing along with him.
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Aug 1, 2020 14:40
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Mat Cauthon posted:https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1289317675403866112?s=19 I don't know how resistant to COVID the bourbon supply chain is! 
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Aug 1, 2020 22:46
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All the Republican voters that Biden can poach will go to him no matter who the VP is. He has no motive to not offer spoils to his own party.
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Aug 2, 2020 00:37
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So why is everyone suddenly despair posting about an eternal Trump presidency again? Trump is still eating poo poo in all the latest polls. Or are we back to imagining Trump will stage a military coup when he has like a 33% approval rating among military officers?
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Aug 3, 2020 16:10
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TyrantWD posted:The state of the Postal Service, and with the majority of Democrats planning to vote by mail, with GOP planning to vote in person, means you are likely going to get a clusterfuck of a situation that ends up with a Trump victory. You're treating a whole lot of long shot assumptions like absolute certainties to jump straight to  there.nachos posted:Is there any evidence of this? I always thought mail in benefits both parties about equally No and yes. He's just assuming one side gives up on in person voting while the other side only does in person voting for... 
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Aug 3, 2020 16:15
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Dick Trauma posted:Because the last few years have proven that no one can predict what's going to happen. There is literally no way to predict whether or not Trump is going to win. And that has people despairing because things are very bad. I mean, jumping from "election prediction failed once" to "all worst imaginable outcomes are absolutely certain" is neither clever or particularly healthy.
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Aug 3, 2020 16:17
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TyrantWD posted:There was a poll posted in the State of the Race thread that broke the results down by "plan to vote in person" and "plan to vote by mail, and Trump is up 10-15 points of those planning to vote in person, and down 35 in the vote by mail group. So you're basing the ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN CHAOS IS INEVITABLE POLLING IS DEAD read on... one poll?  Feldegast42 posted:The postal service is quickly collapsing This... is hyperbole. Also, let me just throw it out there that if Trump somehow kills the postal service between now and election day...people will become way less interested in trying to use it to vote?
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Aug 3, 2020 16:29
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Yeah nobody thought he could win the last time either and here we are. Now he's had four years to stack the deck in his favor. Except he really hasn't? He's eating poo poo way worse against Biden than he ever did against Clinton. The GOP also ate poo poo hard in 2018, which also doesn't fit your narrative.
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Aug 3, 2020 16:36
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mango sentinel posted:Per the interior minister, the confiscated stockpile of explosive materials was either ammonium nitrate or sodium nitrate, from what poking around I've done on Twitter. Ammonium nitrate's main worldwide use is actually as a fertilizer. You can make explosives out of it, but that usually involves mixing it in the right ratio with fuel oil or something. So a bunch of it being in a ship at port isn't really that weird. None of which rules out foul play of course.
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Aug 4, 2020 19:47
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Neo Rasa posted:These seem like two factors that would way override everything else by an order of magnitude. Yeah, glossing over that to talk yourself into agreeing the the CHUD rant about how CONSERVATION RUINED EVERYTHING is sort of weird.
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Aug 5, 2020 14:30
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I mean I dislike Biden on actual substance, but we're talking about a combination of a dad joke and a candidate saying "America should make rad electric cars." It's utterly benign.
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evilweasel posted:The goal here that seems to be in subtext is that Trump is actually hoping to get sued over these so democrats are against UI and are to blame for it not happening. It puts Democrats in a bit of a tricky spot that they appear to be carefully navigating around, but is a concern. Trump thought nothing of the kind. He does not think tactically like that AT ALL. When this gets stymied in the courts he will be genuinely mad, like a toddler throwing a tantrum over how he's personally been thwarted. There is no secret gambit by Trump here. He's throwing poo poo at the wall to see what sticks. Any inconvenience caused the Democrats is purely coincidental. E: also payroll tax cuts aren't UI because last I checked you had to... be on a payroll... to benefit from them? sean10mm fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Aug 9, 2020 |
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Aug 9, 2020 13:53
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FizFashizzle posted:I just don't understand why he's adding in the caveat of states throwing in 100? Is it just so he can blame the governors? He is loving stupid. There is no ~clever rationale~ to be teased out. He's a third rate con man whose brain has melted.
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Aug 9, 2020 14:00
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Rigel posted:We don't even need to rely on the "they would never choose to do this" line. Trump is physically incapable of causing this to happen even if he wanted to, and I have no doubt that if he believed it could work, he'd try. Put simply, Trump is a bitchmade moron coward at heart, not MechaHitler. He's not suddenly becoming competent enough to magically become king for life.
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Aug 9, 2020 18:44
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Killer robot posted:And to preemptively answer the usual complaints that would whitewash GWB's wars, Trump's active support of the Yemen genocide over the objections of even his own party arguably even edges Bush out even the "dead middle easterners" score. Also Trump massively escalated the drone murder program while removing what little oversight and rules of engagement it had.
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Aug 9, 2020 23:46
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Trump isn't destroying the intelligence agencies any more than he's destroying the army. He's interfering with them in dumb but superficial ways and they're trying to brief him like you talk a shitbird child into eating asparagus.
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Aug 10, 2020 12:20
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Judakel posted:That wasn't a miss. They are going to hit her from both sides in order to rile up their base and depress voter turnout in the age of BLM. You are giving Trump wayyyyyyyy too much credit here. He has shown zero ability to pivot like you're describing to attack from the left lmao
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Aug 11, 2020 22:03
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This pick really changes nothing about anything. It won't change policy or affect the race. Trump is too stupid to exploit any theoretical downsides and his "campaign" is just moron rear end kissers now.
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Aug 11, 2020 22:19
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Judakel posted:The campaign was surely paying attention to all of the information out there during the primary. His "campaign" is not a strategic brain trust, it's just yes men and grifter moron hacks all the way down. There is no Karl Rove here managing the messaging here. They are just loving stupid.
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Aug 11, 2020 22:25
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It's a bad choice if you hoped noted lefty Joe Biden would pick a lefty, somehow. From a "win election y/n" it will do nothing either way.
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Aug 11, 2020 22:44
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TyrantWD posted:This is why no one should worry about Don Jr. He can't do stuff like that. Trump can't anymore, either.
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Aug 11, 2020 23:17
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Waltzing Along posted:I feel like KH is such a bad pick that the Biden camp might be trying to lose. I don't know where this kind of hyperbolic take even comes from. For most people in the real world I'm pretty sure KH is an extremely boring pick they don't care about much either way. Even if you want to self-sabotage, VP picks virtually never matter. Dan Quayle spent 1988 being super turbo mega-owned by everyone alive 24/7... and GHWB won in a landslide anyway.
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The general election thread for screaming the same argument into the void over and over with no end in sight because SOMEONE IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET is over there. E: what a way to start a page 
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I think the reality is actually worse than the endless screaming into the void by the Extremely Online about how Biden is too centrist/not centrist enough/whatever the gently caress: all the evidence suggests that American voters just pay no attention to policy positions whatsoever and don't even try to have anything like a coherent ideology. Not even a bad one. In the physical world we live in, Biden provokes no strong feelings and almost nobody looks at his voting history or platform at all. American voters mostly operate on such a level of overwhelming ignorance that nobody is judging Biden on anything either way except a) what team he's on vs. the team they're on, b) if he can project a superficial image of affability, and c) how mad they are at the current rear end in a top hat in charge. The only people screaming about Biden outside our little corner of the universe are Nazi weirdos trying to psych themselves up into actually believing that he's the next Stalin and is going to impose interracial gay communism on everybody. Which obviously isn't anybody's complaint here. Anecdotally, I've basically given up on making sense of what people say they believe vs. who they actually support politically because it almost never makes sense, because they themselves don't apply rational criteria to their decisions. It's like how M4A was even popular with the primary voters WHO REJECTED SANDERS FOR BIDEN, which is just nonsensical until you realize that they weren't grading either guy on policy details, because nobody read them. They just assume the guy the like will do good things and the evidence doesn't matter because they'll never look at it. (Hopefully it's clear that I don't think this state of affairs is GOOD.) volts5000 posted:Spend a week with a conservative and you'll learn that their favorite pastime is bitching. Bitching about black people. Bitching about gay people. Bitching about the mainstream media. Bitching about kids these days. It is nothing but an airing of grievances. That's why they love Fox News. Because they get to watch famous people on tv bitch about the same poo poo they love to bitch about on a daily basis. The validation gets them high. Now, we have a president that bitches about what they bitch about and it sends them to the loving moon. Trump's power was never about him having a clever plan, was never about what he DID, it was simply that he was what the scum of America were dreaming about getting all along. Which was basically themselves, only bigger and louder. What separated him from the GOP primary field was that they were PANDERING to the scum of America, while Trump WAS the scum of America. He perfectly embodied their nasty, corrupt, hateful spirit, and they recognized it reflexively.
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1297547642961002497 The Christian right was never sincere about anything but race hate, degrading women and soaking rubes for money. They ARE Trump, endlessly repeated.
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Pence is such a lame dildo that he was going to be run out of Indiana on a rail, a place that historically likes the Klan more than Alabama does. He's a charisma free moron. Trump's base does not give a gently caress about him.
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