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Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

Hate my printer but needed it for immigration documents, now it just sits there taking up space and adding another 2 cords to the mix because the wireless just doesn't work. Im gonna try to move it into the closet but im sure the wife will need to print something as soon as I do.

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zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

SilvergunSuperman posted:

A scanner seems just as useless as a printer these days, even when submitting documents you can usually just take a picture.

nah, they are great for scanning 35mm negatives, especially if you have a bunch of old family poo poo you'd like to digitize.

if you said fax machine though, gently caress a fax machine

piratepilates
Mar 28, 2004

So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.



zer0spunk posted:


if you said fax machine though, gently caress a fax machine

for when you want to send someone a document, but you want it to be done badly

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I do artwork, and for artwork if you want a scanner

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

piratepilates posted:

for when you want to send someone a document, but you want it to be done badly

the only people that ever ask for a fax is the government. my state's department of labor requests forms via fax like it's 1988

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

SilvergunSuperman posted:

A scanner seems just as useless as a printer these days, even when submitting documents you can usually just take a picture.

My work paid for every employee to download a $5 document scanning app for our phones. You take a picture of a piece of paper and boom PDF. Works perfectly and makes scanning receipts for expenses super easy.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!
Printers = tree murder

won't someone please think of those sweet swwet trees (except for the ones I smoke :ssh: . )

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Jim Long-un posted:

let's take this device that literally precision-glues and melts individual grains of colored plastic dust onto paper eternally and cut as many corners as possible so it's prone to mechanical failure and then package it with a half-assed driver program to ensure the user spends at least half of its lifetime troubleshooting spooler errors

What's the deal with Windows being completely unable to ever cancel a print queue anyway? You have to reboot the computer 95% of the time to clear it and I'll never understand why.

In my teens and early 20s when I was the "tech support guy" there was nothing I hated more than helping people with printers.

I currently have a wireless laser black and white printer and every time I want to wirelessly print from my laptop I have to uninstall it and reinstall it because it complains about its IP address changing or some stupid poo poo.

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
My favorite* printer problem is how printers are also extremely picky bastards in that there are some printer models that will only take one, and very strictly one and only one, model or designation of ink cartridges. Or that trying to buy third party cartridges causes the loving thing to cry and hiss about NON-AUTHENTIC CARTRIDGES and refuses to print because of "errors" (read: punishing people wanting to find a cheaper alternative to the ink market perpetually in a chokehold)

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

SilvergunSuperman
Aug 7, 2010

EorayMel posted:

My favorite* printer problem is how printers are also extremely picky bastards in that there are some printer models that will only take one, and very strictly one and only one, model or designation of ink cartridges. Or that trying to buy third party cartridges causes the loving thing to cry and hiss about NON-AUTHENTIC CARTRIDGES and refuses to print because of "errors" (read: punishing people wanting to find a cheaper alternative to the ink market perpetually in a chokehold)

I like the ones that have X number of prints predetermined then it just stops working.

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

Its basically the original hardware as a service model that everyone loves so much

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

Pick posted:

Printers are bad, except in the one way that they are good. A lot of printers come with built-in scanners, so you can always get a really cheap scanner by going to Goodwill and buying a broken printer. The scanner part almost always works.
We have a model of printer/scanner at work that disables the scanner portion if it detects a problem with the printer side, down to something as simple as one of the colors being out of ink or expired.

zer0spunk posted:

or you can buy a decent flatbed scanner instead of having a bolted on dead printer? my canon flatbed is also from 2012 and has been a tank (and comes with a bunch of negative holders for different formats on top of it)
I was going to come in here and say how it's nearly impossible to buy a standalone scanner nowadays, but it looks like Epson has started making some again. When I last looked at my work (because of the above issue) the only standalone scanners you could get were professional-grade and over $100 minimum, compared to the $40 combo devices.

Strumpie
Dec 9, 2012
why buy a printer when you can just slap a piece of paper against the monitor real hard and have it transfer the image.

Roundup Ready
Mar 10, 2004

ACCIDENTAL SHIT POSTER


I just remembered the last printer thread when someone (huge gross burrito maybe?) owned a bad opinion haver by printing out the post, crumpling it up, and throwing it in the toilet.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:

What's the deal with Windows being completely unable to ever cancel a print queue anyway? You have to reboot the computer 95% of the time to clear it and I'll never understand why.

In my teens and early 20s when I was the "tech support guy" there was nothing I hated more than helping people with printers.

I currently have a wireless laser black and white printer and every time I want to wirelessly print from my laptop I have to uninstall it and reinstall it because it complains about its IP address changing or some stupid poo poo.

Go into your router settings and give the printer a static IP address.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

SilvergunSuperman posted:

I like the ones that have X number of prints predetermined then it just stops working.

I need to print text only in black but I can’t because the yellow cartridge is empty.

Mystery Steve
Nov 9, 2006
Fun Shoe
What do you mean I cant print own money!

Azerban
Oct 28, 2003



DarkSoulsTantrum posted:

I need to print text only in black but I can’t because the yellow cartridge is empty.

how else are they supposed to add the tracking microdots

caleb
Jul 17, 2004
...rough day at the orifice.

SilvergunSuperman posted:

A scanner seems just as useless as a printer these days, even when submitting documents you can usually just take a picture.

Useless to you, crucial equipment for us art nerds. We are the ones still using this archaic technology.

barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot
printers are useful for sheet music and making super nice glossy J-cards for your cassette mixtapes

Jimong5
Oct 3, 2005

If history is to change, let it change! If the world is to be destroyed, so be it! If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!!
Grimey Drawer
I was on the buy a cheap crap printer train until I splurged for an HP color laser network printer for about $300, and that was 12 years ago. Still works and prints no problem even if its sat for 6 months.


piratepilates posted:

At this point I'm thinking it's more likely that printer woes will be solved by tablets getting cheap enough to be disposable than for the printer industry to wake up and make something not lovely. You ever watch that star trek? Not a piece of paper in sight*, they all have multiple iPads they all just throw around and give to people.

Some stores have stopped printing paper tags and instead bought kindles they can stick on stuff and reuse, the future is kinda cool.

Quote
Feb 2, 2005
I Iove that when a printer sends an "I'm in an error state" msg to Windows 10 there's literally no way to tell Windows 10 "ok I fixed it" other than starting and stopping the spooler service in the command line. :cool:

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.
when I was doing IT and tech support nothing made me angrier than printers

in theory they should be simple machines! you plug them into the outlet, they go beep boop, you print. In reality they were fashioned by whatever sentient remnants emerged from Satan's toilet that decided to create the single most frustrating device known to man

you wanna print in black and white? That's cool. Too bad you have no red! Why does it matter? Who knows! Eat poo poo and die end user! Oh I'm sorry, I lost a TCP packet in transit? That's cool, it's now disconnected from the wireless network! Wait, I'm plugged in? Well I'm now going to block that port and pretend that I'm not connected because I hate you!

Varg
Jan 13, 2007

A friendly face.

I had some really fun times earlier this year constantly troubleshooting the new HP laser printers at the office. They would just stop printing or jam almost daily until I updated the firmware. I guess if it works *most of the time* it's good enough to release to the public.

death cob for cutie
Dec 30, 2006

dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4

Knormal posted:

Never install the full driver package. Get the barebones PCL/PS or universal driver from the company's website, or if they don't provide one then use the "add driver" option ahead of time and point it to the INF file in the driver package directory structure, then plug in the printer and let it auto-install. Never run a printer company's EXE.

Unless it's a printer/scanner all-in-one where you have to install the software to use the scanner, then you're screwed.

I remember once upon a time setting up a printer/copier/scanner from HP for my mother. the dumb driver package executable repeatedly got to something like -78% progress on step 9/8 before crashing. printers were a mistake and driver packages are a crime.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
laser printers rule OP. i get 8000 pages per ink cartridge. its perfect for pirating old RPG books and printing socialist propaganda leaflets. your problem is inkjet, thats for losers

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Laser printers are amazing marvels of technology and put beautiful text on the paper. Sorry you had to carry one for a girl once, OP.

ProperCauldron
Oct 11, 2004

nah chill
Someone please find and post that angry goon's hilarious rant against printers from a couple years ago.

Please add paper to Tray 2 to print from Tray 3.
Please add paper to Tray 2 to print from Tray 3.
Please add paper to Tray 2 to print from Tray 3.

grillster
Dec 25, 2004

:chaostrump:
I like my $140 wireless Brother black and white printer. It stays unplugged until I need it, and then it's ready in about thirty seconds.

I had an HP LaserJet 4L with a JetDirect card and it was a tank.

Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:

What's the deal with Windows being completely unable to ever cancel a print queue anyway? You have to reboot the computer 95% of the time to clear it and I'll never understand why.

In my teens and early 20s when I was the "tech support guy" there was nothing I hated more than helping people with printers.

I currently have a wireless laser black and white printer and every time I want to wirelessly print from my laptop I have to uninstall it and reinstall it because it complains about its IP address changing or some stupid poo poo.

Set the printer driver to use a port that references the printer by hostname rather than IP.

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe
i only print at my office because lol @ paying for a printer in 2020

on that note: steal as much office supplies as you can. its your duty to.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!
You know what's worse than printers?

Shredders (except for Master Shredder, that's the only good and cool Shredder)

Big dumb industrial shredders that pulp the paper into dust and spew it at you when you go to change the bag and you breathe in paper ink particles and glue and matbe if your lucky some plastic bits, staples you name it

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

grillster posted:


Set the printer driver to use a port that references the printer by hostname rather than IP.



DarkSoulsTantrum posted:

Go into your router settings and give the printer a static IP address.

Thanks. I'll try that. Still really lame you have to do all that crap and it doesn't just work.

Chrs
Sep 21, 2015

I like my printer

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

I've done support on printers quite a bit and boy I gotta tell ya, some of them are better than others

Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009
Can we talk refurbished toner cartridges? Because companies just love to think how much money they're saving with those while completely ignoring the fact that you're now having to pay people full-time to fix jams and clean up toner dumped inside printers from cartridges that are held together with spit and duct tape.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Dick Bastardly posted:

You know what's worse than printers?

Shredders (except for Master Shredder, that's the only good and cool Shredder)

Big dumb industrial shredders that pulp the paper into dust and spew it at you when you go to change the bag and you breathe in paper ink particles and glue and matbe if your lucky some plastic bits, staples you name it

whats the point of shredding when a single match can destroy unlimited documents. seems like a lot of wasted effort

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men
I saved about 30 phone calls a year by switching my mother from inkjets to a cheap b&w laser printer from Brother. She likes to print recipes she'll never end up making.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

You all hate printers because you mostly deal with cheap as poo poo desktop garbage that was designed to work for 15 minutes and then thrown away. Good quality mfps that cost as much as a small car run for forever and make a million prints without any issues.
You get what you pay for.

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kdrudy
Sep 19, 2009

I remember wirecutter's article on printers used to just start out by saying all printers are bad, but here are the least bad.

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