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A lot of us are parents now, and a lot of us are intellectual and emotional infants, so in either case I thought it might be useful or interesting to have a recommendation thread for children's books. Need a present for a picky 11 year old? Going to have a breakdown if you have to read Don't Let The Pigeon Drive The Bus one more God drat time? Just read a book to your 8 year old that they really liked? Here is a thread for recommending and getting recommendations for children's books.
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Not a parent, but I have recommended children's books as part of my job: The Girl Who Circumnavigated Fairyland in a Ship of Her Own Making by Catherynne M. Valente and her fairyland series in general is YA, pitched 10-14. It's really good for those kids hovering in the space where they're hungry for more advanced reading materials but a little too young for the late teens content, as it introduces a bunch of challenging new vocabulary words balanced out by some very nice illustrations.
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Jul 19, 2020 08:52
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Any Roald Dahl, but particularly Charlie and The Chocolate Factory, Matilda and James and The Giant Peach.
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Jul 19, 2020 09:20
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A is for activist A Young People's History of the United States
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Jul 19, 2020 20:19
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Dell_Zincht posted:Any Roald Dahl, but particularly Charlie and The Chocolate Factory, Matilda and James and The Giant Peach. Roald Dahl is probably my daughter's favorite writer. We read Matilda, the Witches, and The Twits as bedtime stories, and listened to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory on audiobook during a long road trip. She read all the other ones herself. Dahl is a tricky one because all of his books play pretty close to the edge in terms of unsettling content and some of them go over the line. I think Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is probably the one I have the most trouble with -- a lot of body-shaming and the whole Oompa-Loompa thing is just...not good. I read those books as a kid and a lot of it went over my head but my daughter immediately was like "this Oompa-Loompa stuff is hosed up," so I dunno, I guess kids are getting more woke.
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Jul 20, 2020 16:35
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coolusername posted:Not a parent, but I have recommended children's books as part of my job: The Girl Who Circumnavigated Fairyland in a Ship of Her Own Making by Catherynne M. Valente and her fairyland series in general is YA, pitched 10-14. It's really good for those kids hovering in the space where they're hungry for more advanced reading materials but a little too young for the late teens content, as it introduces a bunch of challenging new vocabulary words balanced out by some very nice illustrations. These seem cool, thanks 
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Jul 20, 2020 16:35
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The Voice of Labor posted:A is for activist My daughter had A is for Activist since before she was one. I'm not sure if by itself it had any impact. It's an interesting question when you have early reading books how much of the book is for the kids and how much is for the parents. And in some ways I wonder if the real value is now, when it's been years since she's read it, but it's still there on her shelf, indicating the value of a certain kind of political engagement that she wasn't able to think about at the time the book was written. Have you known any kids who read the Zinn book? I admit I'm skeptical because I found the adult version unbelievably boring.
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Jul 20, 2020 16:39
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QUAD POST. Right now my daughter and I are reading Front Desk, by Kelly Yang, which is the story of an 11 year old girl, an immigrant from China, whose family is in charge of a motel in Anaheim. It's well-plotted and well-observed and manages to do a good job of reflecting the immigrant experience while skirting some of the cliches. One of the things that I appreciate about it is that it brings up Real poo poo and is one of the first books I've read with my daughter that has managed to do that without turning her off, so either she's getting older and more interested in the real world, or the book does an especially good job or maybe some combination. Anyway, I recommend it.
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Jul 20, 2020 16:46
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Is this where I recommend The Phantom Tollbooth? Because, The Phantom Tollbooth. It's a bit old, I know, but it's still a lot of fun and thought-provoking.
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Jul 20, 2020 19:31
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Selachian posted:Is this where I recommend The Phantom Tollbooth? Because, The Phantom Tollbooth. It's a bit old, I know, but it's still a lot of fun and thought-provoking. My fave. It is the best.
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Jul 20, 2020 22:58
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I highly recommend: Margaret Mahy: A New Zealander all time great with a huge range from very silly pre-school books right up into very dark Young Adult stuff (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWVAigtoOmA), never talks down to her audience. Her stuff tends to move fast and have rapidly escalating complications. Very funny in the lower ages. Hans Christian Anderson Award winner. Joan Aiken: Famous for the Wolves Chronicles which starts off with the fabulous Victorian pastiche The Wolves of Willoughby Chase. The Arabel and Mortimer series is for younger children but enjoyable for all. Think the Paddington stories if he was a more mischievous Raven. Her Armitage Family stories are for slightly older children and feature of the adventures of a family where interesting and usual things happen, like unicorn appearing the backyard, on Mondays, "But not always Mondays, and not only Mondays, or that would get a bit dull". Janet and Allan Ahlberg: Famous for their beautiful children's picture books but their longer works like Ten In A Bed, The Vanishment of Thomas Tull, The Better Brown Stories, The Bear Nobody Wanted are all very good and specialise in overturning the established expectations of kid's lit. Tove Janson: The Moomintroll Books are fantastic fun Scandinavian adventures with a tinge of melancholy that becomes almost overwhelming as the books go on. The earlier books are deserved children's classics (Tales from Moominvalley is a good stopping point, the next two are almost unbearable in their exploration of isolation and loss). Hans Christian Anderson Award winner. Dick King Smith: You've seen Babe, most of his books are similar. Fantastic for any animal lover but a little interchangeable. While not written for children, I also really enjoyed the James Herriot and Gerald Durrell's work as a kid. fez_machine fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Jul 21, 2020 |
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Jul 21, 2020 04:05
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cda posted:My daughter had A is for Activist since before she was one. I'm not sure if by itself it had any impact. It's an interesting question when you have early reading books how much of the book is for the kids and how much is for the parents. And in some ways I wonder if the real value is now, when it's been years since she's read it, but it's still there on her shelf, indicating the value of a certain kind of political engagement that she wasn't able to think about at the time the book was written. I'm gonna read it with the child in the near future. I found Zinn pretty engaging. Finished the thing in three or four sittings, at no point did I really not want to read it. The kid I can never tell, she'll get bored with stuff instantly then watch an hour of, even to me, a kinda boring hitchcock movie totally enthralled, only stopping to ask me questions about the plot. U.S. public education is garbage. It's meant to be and the only thing that saves it is the teachers. If I hadn't had an awesome 5th grade teacher my knowledge of the civil rights movement and u.s. govt. in general would be totally stunted because I do not know how long it would've taken me otherwise to care about and learn about them or if I even would've. with covid, school's going to be out indefinitely regardless of the death parade trump and devos crave. not everything is pleasure reading. pretty much everything you do as a parent conveys some value or norm, I embraced that, tosseds aside my doubt and am raising the child to be the best militant marxist I can.
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Jul 21, 2020 08:44
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fez_machine posted:Joan Aiken: Famous for the Wolves Chronicles which starts off with the fabulous Victorian pastiche The Wolves of Willoughby Chase. The Arabel and Mortimer series is for younger children but enjoyable for all. Think the Paddington stories if he was a more mischievous Raven. Her Armitage Family stories are for slightly older children and feature of the adventures of a family where interesting and usual things happen, like unicorn appearing the backyard, on Mondays, "But not always Mondays, and not only Mondays, or that would get a bit dull". Aiken's book of horror stories, The Green Flash, traumatized me when I was very little (although admittedly I was way too young to be reading it then). But yeah, she's undoubtedly talented. For older kids (10-12?) with a taste for horror, there's John Bellairs, whose stock in trade is mysteries that are creepy without being too scary. His Lewis Barnavelt books (The House with a Clock in Its Walls, et al) are particularly interesting because the protagonist is a fat kid who gets to be the hero instead of a comedy-relief sidekick. (An aspect that, unsurprisingly, was dropped from the movie adaptation a couple years ago.) Speaking of kids' fantasy, if you'd rather not put any more money in J. K. Rowling's pocket, Diane Duane's "Young Wizards" series (So You Want to Be a Wizard, et al) is an excellent substitute. Or try Diana Wynne Jones's Chrestomanci series, or Howl's Moving Castle.
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Jul 21, 2020 16:42
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fez_machine posted:While not written for children, I also really enjoyed the James Herriot and Gerald Durrell's work as a kid. Oh man, how did I not think of these. I read them over and over as a kid and I bet my kid would love them.
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Jul 21, 2020 17:55
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fez_machine posted:Janet and Allan Ahlberg: Famous for their beautiful children's picture books but their longer works like Ten In A Bed, The Vanishment of Thomas Tull, The Better Brown Stories, The Bear Nobody Wanted are all very good and specialise in overturning the established expectations of kid's lit. Allan Ahlberg wrote plenty of children's stories by himself too, my favourite as a child was Woof! which was about a boy who turns into a dog. There was even a TV series in the UK based on it (which ran for far longer than it should have but had a pretty cool Anthony Head cameo in series 3!)
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Jul 21, 2020 18:39
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Rudyard Kipling. Especially his poems about duty
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Jul 21, 2020 22:26
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Dr. Seuss had some great animations in the 60's. It's good when books have cartoon tie ins for kids, obviously, as its a more accessible medium that can serve as a pipeline to get them interested. I know in high school I hated all the books I got assigned set in the dusty, hot south but I really got into To Kill A Mockingbird once I saw the Gregory Peck movie and even ended up portraying Boo Radley onstage my senior year Obviously How the Grinch Stole Christmas and The Cat In The Hat, but also The Sneetches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdLPe7XjdKc Though it doesn't all have to be social allegory. Mr. Brown Can Moo! Can You? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArXiiEcwtyY Some people may not know there were a couple other Grinch outings, including The Grinch Grinches The Cat In The Hat. It wasn't too terribly good but I never liked The Cat as a character much, as surprising as that may be for as obvious that book and especially its sequel are an inspiration to my posting. The better Grinch Extended Universe animation was Halloween Is Grinch Night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygSEkwRCQPM&t=1118s Some nights a sour-sweet wind starts a'howlin', which wakes the gree-grumps from their tree stumps and their irritated growlin' gets the hacken-cracks agrowlin' and you generally feel for the Grinch when he breaks out The Paraphernalia Wagon and starts tearing poo poo up. A young Who, ironically now cast as more Jewish caricatures, decides to venture out to The Grinch to find out why he's loving like this. The ensuing scene inside The Paraphernalia Wagon (queued up) is a pretty intense thing to put in front of a child but I think it's good for kids to have emotionally preperatory experiences within the proper boundaries. Another good Dr. Seuss for this is The Lorax (ending queued) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V06ZOQuo0k&t=1333s I'm legitimately teared up rewatching this - of course as you might imagine I am very high. But there is something intensely beautiful about this man using his skills from racist war propaganda to write books about hopping on pop and red fish and blue fish and bitter butter battles and then Theodore Geisel posted:Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot A lot of people would accuse the Imagine Studios pre-Minion CGI adaptation of killing the story by ruining this moment; absolutely, but that can be okay too. Not every child is going to connect with what is now approaching sixty year old animation, or necessarily even be much a reader even from Hop on Pop age. But for the kids who grew up watching the new movie over and over, maybe they checked out the older one or ironically reread some Seuss as they got older and the message stuck with them. I know it's something I've returned to all my life every now and then Of course if you're worried about the messages you're priming your kids for maybe keep them away from Horton Hears A Who 
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Jul 22, 2020 09:25
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For anyone looking for more female heroes in fantasy worlds + aimed at a younger crew of 9 - 11, Tamora Pierce's Circle of Magic series. Starts with Sandry's book: "With her gift of weaving silk thread and creating light, Sandry is brought to the Winding Circle community. There she meets Briar, a former thief who has a way with plants; Daja, an outcast gifted at metalcraft; and Tris, whose connection with the weather unsettles everyone, including herself. At Winding Circle, the four misfits are taught how to use their magic - and to trust one another. But then disaster strikes their new home." Fair warning, the fourth book has (an age-appropriately handled) plague with quarantines and some main characters fall sick. Her other series are aimed at the 14+ crowd, so make sure to get the right set of books.
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Jul 22, 2020 09:27
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Astrid Lindgren’s books are mandatory imo. They’re all really great, especially Ronja and the brothers Lionheart
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Jul 22, 2020 10:18
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ulvir posted:Astrid Lindgren’s books are mandatory imo. They’re all really great, especially Ronja and the brothers Lionheart Pippi Longstocking has some South Seas stuff that's fairly racist iirc. Am I misremembering? I read a bunch of Lindgren as a kid and loved all of it. So many of my faves were problematic and I feel like all that stuff just went over my head and didn't really affect me. But my daughter is much more sensitive to those things and I don't think they would go over her head. It's one of those weird situations where a certain degree of ignorance is genuinely protective because you don't see what you don't see. Tintin was the best to me. My daughter took one look at Tintin in America and was like yo, what the gently caress. I think she lost some respect for me that day lol
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Jul 22, 2020 14:41
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All of the Neil Gaiman kid's books are great (other than the panda ones, we skipped those). Young kid books: The Wolves in the Walls (my daughter's favorite forever) & The Day I Traded my Dad for a Goldfish are both illustrated in an insane fashion. The Dangerous Alphabet, Crazy Hair, and Instructions (another favorite) are all great and good enough to read over and over as kids are prone to do. Coraline is a classic now and the audiobook read by Gaiman is perfect. Fortunately, the Milk is a decent introduction to chapter books. Kid's books start to get expensive. My daughter gets laser focused and just wants to read. She just finished some 15 book series about dragons in a month and they were about $12 a piece. I bought her a Kindle to save some money, but she hasn't gotten used to it yet.
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Jul 22, 2020 15:15
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Selachian posted:Or try Diana Wynne Jones's Chrestomanci series, or Howl's Moving Castle. Diana Wynne Jones wrote some great books. Dark Lord of Derkholm is another interesting one with lots to discuss. cda posted:Tintin was the best to me. My daughter took one look at Tintin in America and was like yo, what the gently caress. I think she lost some respect for me that day lol Early Tintin was ridiculously racist; the original Tintin in the Congo has Tintin teaching a class about "your mother country Belgium" and blowing up the wildlife. Later ones get much better, though. My own favourite that has the same problem is the Swallows and Amazons books, which are full of scenes where the children cast adults as savages and natives and cannibals, and one is about the main characters going to China and meeting a pirate queen. I'm in no hurry to reread that one. Anyway, if we're talking about comics, you can't forget Asterix. Roger Lancelyn Green's stories about Greek and Norse myths and King Arthur were fantastic, too. Don't forget The Sword in the Stone once you've finished that last one.
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Jul 22, 2020 15:27
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cda posted:Pippi Longstocking has some South Seas stuff that's fairly racist iirc. Am I misremembering? I read a bunch of Lindgren as a kid and loved all of it. So many of my faves were problematic and I feel like all that stuff just went over my head and didn't really affect me. But my daughter is much more sensitive to those things and I don't think they would go over her head. It's one of those weird situations where a certain degree of ignorance is genuinely protective because you don't see what you don't see. Tintin was the best to me. My daughter took one look at Tintin in America and was like yo, what the gently caress. I think she lost some respect for me that day lol she used some outdated terms for caribbeans and africans in one of the Pippi books (not out of malice, like her father was “a n**ro king”, or some such) but the books were recently (a few years ago) edited to be more contemporary and inviting in the language, at least in the original swedish. You might want to do some research beforehand, but I think more recent translations should be pretty safe. the contents other than that in her books are all safe and wholesome, and there’s nothing racist in the titles I recommended, so they’re a safe bet ulvir fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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Jul 22, 2020 15:31
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Selachian posted:Aiken's book of horror stories, The Green Flash, traumatized me when I was very little (although admittedly I was way too young to be reading it then). But yeah, she's undoubtedly talented. Jan Mark wrote some great horror for kids. Nothing To Be Afraid Of is very good, "Nule" in particular. Barry Hughart's Bridge of Birds is a wonderful fairy story for older kids/teens, idk if it's considered problematic these days though (it's an amalgam of Chinese legends retold by a white guy, for starters). Safety Biscuits posted:My own favourite that has the same problem is the Swallows and Amazons books, which are full of scenes where the children cast adults as savages and natives and cannibals, and one is about the main characters going to China and meeting a pirate queen. I'm in no hurry to reread that one. also one of the main characters is nicknamed "Titty" which some kids might have a hard time getting past
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Jul 23, 2020 19:56
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I remember really enjoying My Father's Dragon and its sequels, full of the kind of "whimsy" or whatever that makes you believe the author gets what it's like to be a kid
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Jul 23, 2020 21:47
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Picture books are important for accessibility as well. I loved anything with a big spread I could get lost in all the details. One of my favourites was the treetop party from Go Dogs Go I'd lie there and stare at all the situations and get lost in this absurd dog world. That stuff about all the colours coming together for an awesome party with cannons tied into a lot of subtle messaging while teaching the smallest their concepts and quantifications  I also liked this storyline. As an adult I might have some criticism of its specific takeaways but when I was four I just loved looking at all the details of her party hat.     I don't think he actually liked her hat there - but it was nice of him not to bring down the party by making it a big thing. Daikloktos fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Jul 24, 2020 |
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Jul 23, 2020 22:58
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smug n stuff posted:I remember really enjoying My Father's Dragon and its sequels, full of the kind of "whimsy" or whatever that makes you believe the author gets what it's like to be a kid Yep, this was the first series I really loved and I have vivid memories of reading them while eating clementines, which I pretended were tangerines, which are what the protagonist eats in the story
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Jul 23, 2020 23:49
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Clipperton posted:also one of the main characters is nicknamed "Titty" which some kids might have a hard time getting past I thought they were changing that to Kitty or something in the newer printings? Oh, apparently not. Seconding Jan Mark. I best remember Thunder and Lightnings, about a weird kid and jet planes, and Something Chronic, about a couple of schoolkids who bet on how much time they'll spend in class that week.
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Jul 24, 2020 11:22
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Safety Biscuits posted:Diana Wynne Jones wrote some great books. Dark Lord of Derkholm is another interesting one with lots to discuss. That book also has a really out of place rape/sexual assault scene which sours the whole thing. But Jones is generally great and I loved "Witch Week" as a wee one. The childrens books Terry Pratchett did in early 90s - the Nomes and Johnny Maxwell trilogies - are wonderful and I like them more than YA Discworlds he did later on.
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Jul 25, 2020 01:10
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High Warlord Zog posted:That book also has a really out of place rape/sexual assault scene which sours the whole thing. But Jones is generally great and I loved "Witch Week" as a wee one. The Chrestomanci books are definitely aimed at a younger audience and Witch Week is indeed amazing (and I've only read that as an adult).
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Jul 25, 2020 11:22
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High Warlord Zog posted:That book also has a really out of place rape/sexual assault scene which sours the whole thing. But Jones is generally great and I loved "Witch Week" as a wee one. I'd forgotten this, so yeah, something to bear in mind. Oddly the sequel seemed to be for younger readers.
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Jul 25, 2020 16:25
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coolusername posted:For anyone looking for more female heroes in fantasy worlds + aimed at a younger crew of 9 - 11, Tamora Pierce's Circle of Magic series. I gotta second Tamora Pierce, especially for female protagonists in fantasy series. The Lioness series is excellent for a slightly older crowd (I read it in 7th grade), mostly just due to brief allusions to sex.
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Jul 31, 2020 06:47
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The Chronicles of Prydain (The Book of Three, The Black Cauldron, The Castle of Llyr, Taran Wanderer, and The High King) by Lloyd Alexander is my permanent go-to rec for great young reader novels. They're great stories, have great morals (especially Taran Wanderer), are basically timeless, and are a good starting point for a young reader if they're looking to explore more fantasy books in the future. I read them all over the course of a summer like a decade or so ago and of all the varied stuff I've read across all genres and levels of maturity, certain things in those books are going to stick with me forever when all else fades.
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Jul 31, 2020 07:10
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Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH holds up pretty well. By Robert O'Brien.
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Feb 2, 2021 20:58
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 The Way Things Work It gets a lot weaker once it's past mechanics, but the beginning is very good. I haven't read any of the updates, maybe they've improved things
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I work in an elementary school library, so if you want recommendations just ask, there are so many Read alouds for little kids: Mo Willem, of course, the Pigeon rides eternal, Elephant and Piggie are charming, Knuffle Bunny is sweet. Jan Thomas is hugely popular - various barnyard animals have wacky adventures. B.J. Novak wrote a brilliant book called "The book with no pictures" (it has NO pictures). Dave Mckee (he wrote Elmer, which I don't like) wrote the brilliant "Not now Bernard" which raises many important philosophical questions. Little kids really like interactive books, like "The monster at the end of this book, or "Do not open this book" (by Andy Lee) For slightly bigger kids: Loads of stuff by Quentin Blake, particularly the Mrs Armatige series, I really like John Yeoman, who often works with Blake, but his stuff is often out of print. Oliver Jeffers is great, as is Jon Klassen. "Rosie Revere, engineer" by Andrea Beatty, and all of her other books on that theme. There are a whole section of worthy books on inclusivity, LGBTQ themes, anti-rasicm etc which are great and if you have a specific request I can make recommendations. Also, anything with poop, dinosaurs, unicorns, robots, ninjas etc. Don't ask me where the Minecraft or Pokemon books are, the 2nd graders have them, or they hid them for later then forgot where. Picture books for older kids: Anything by Allen Say, beautiful art and writing, very calm touching stories, mostly autobiographical (his actual autobiography is fascinating, it's also a picture book). Shaun Tan is another one you can't go wrong with, I recommend "Cicada". David Wiesner makes mostly wordless books, full of weird transformations and hidden detail. "Du iz Tak" by Carson Ellis: insects have an adventure in a made up language. What are they saying? "Michael Rosen's Sad Book" will loving destroy you, he was children poet laureate and wrote it about coping with the unexpected death of his teenage son (whom he wrote many poems about when he was little). It changed my perception of how good a children's book could be. I love Grahame Oakley's church mouse books, but they are out of print and very English. Bleah, that's enough, ask if you want specific stuff.
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Feb 4, 2021 12:54
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One of my favorite Quentin Blake-illustrated picture books is How Tom Beat Captain Najork and His Hired Sportsmen by Russell Hoban. Very funny and it has a great message about the benefits of unstructured messing around for kids. My daughter used to love Doreen Cronin (Click Clack Moo -- Cows That Type et al), David Small (Imogene's Antlers, Hoover's Bride), and Melanie Watt (the Chester books), as well as Sandra Boynton (especially Barnyard Dance) and, of course, Dr. Seuss.
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Feb 4, 2021 17:46
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there is a history series i always liked called Cornerstones of freedom. they are about various history events, alot of them that most elementry school kids would not have heard off. the older ones are better written in my opinion and you can get a pile of them online for realtivly cheap. https://www.exodusbooks.com/cornerstones-of-freedom/5243/ https://www.librarything.com/series/Cornerstones+of+Freedom like there are ones about medicene in the old west and child labor laws and the Great Society its not just the big heavy hitter stuff. but they have those too. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Cornerstones+of+Freedom+Series&i=stripbooks&qid=1612458172&ref=sr_pg_1 Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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Feb 4, 2021 17:59
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yaffle posted:I work in an elementary school library, so if you want recommendations just ask, there are so many An adjacent question: can you recommend books - for whatever age of reader - that faithfully / accurately represent a kid's internal life? It occurs to me that most fiction with young protagonists doesn't really ring true in the way they think, speak, act. Part of what makes me ask is, I'm working on a roleplaying game project that takes generations of protagonists from childhood to adulthood, then loops back around to playing the children of your previous characters. It'd be helpful to have some fiction where its young protagonists feel like real people instead of Small Adults, so that I can embed those feelings into mechanics.
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Kestral posted:An adjacent question: can you recommend books - for whatever age of reader - that faithfully / accurately represent a kid's internal life? It occurs to me that most fiction with young protagonists doesn't really ring true in the way they think, speak, act. That is a tricky one, Shirley Hughes does this well, "Dogger" and "Alfie gets in first" come to mind. If you want books for older readers, Judy Blume and Cynthia Voight both seem (to me) to capture something of the reality of being a child.
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