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Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010





RGB RPS
A game for nine players

ďWelcome to San Quentin Judicial Resort and Casino. Please follow the arrows, someone will show you to your cell.Ē

It was fifteen years ago that the lumpen succeeded at entirely upending class society. After years of back-breaking labor you can barely remember if you fought for the proletariat or the bourgeoisie in the war, but you still have a bitter pride that you knew that if the anarchists won there would be nothing stopping organized crime.

You had always heard that the Mafia turned the biggest prisons into casinos to run sick games for people to bet on, but you never thought youíd be transferred to one.

Your cell is depressingly meager, but you do have an ancient computer. poo poo, not even solitaire. Only a thread on a decrepit looking webforum, two chat rooms you share with other players, and the video player that lets you see the announcement of the dayís executionÖ


Hello and welcome to Red Green Blue Rock Paper Scissors.

This is a game for nine players that will be split into three teamsÖ twice. Everyone will be on Team Red, Green, or Blue. Everyone will be on Team Rock, Paper, or Scissors. You will have a chat on Discord with both of your teams.

Every day, every inmate has one vote on who will play a game of rock paper scissors. The top two vote leaders play. Hammer is when all outstanding votes not on the top two will not change the top two. The loser is executed. The winner receives a boon depending on how strong the defeat is. In addition to normal RPS rules, the team colors do matter.

Rock beats Scissors beats Paper beats Rock
Red beats Green beats Blue beats Red



Red Rock vs Blue Scissors as an example is a draw.
Red Rock vs Green Rock is a 1 point win for Red Rock.
Red Rock vs Red Scissors is a 1 point win for Red Rock.
Red Rock vs Green Scissors is a 2 point win for Red Rock.

The first three times a draw occurs, neither player dies. From then on if the players draw both are executed.

The winnerís boon is one cop per point in their win. The cop can be used to discover either the RGB or RPS alignment of the player of the winnerís choosing. The boon must be used the night of win or it is forfeited.

The game is over when only one team remains, which may be an RGB or RPS team. In addition, if the final surviving three or fewer players all draw with each other, they also win as a team.

Rules:
1) Donít be a dick.
2) Donít edit your posts.
3) Donít post if you are not a living inmate.
4) Donít post after the hammer.
5) No copy/paste or screenshots of mod communication or your team chats.
6) Probably donít lurk. Mafia can NK one lurker a day, which is defined as under 10 posts a game day (unless the day ends more than 12 hours before deadline). Or they can choose not to. Maybe you are active enough in Discord chats, yeah? Hey itís their prison casino, Iím just the warden. Also if there isnít a clear #1 and #2 from the vote due to ties, Mafia breaks the tie however they wish.

Discord link: https://discord.gg/R6WAZdg

Inmates:
  1. b-minus1
  2. dmboogie (he/him)
  3. hambeet (he/him)
  4. merk (he/him)
  5. Mr. Steak (he/him)
  6. sandnavyguy (He/him)
  7. Somberbrero (He/him)
  8. tpink
  9. Voodoofly (He/Him/Whatever)
Mafia: (Priority seats for Sandwolf and DGK2000, and if they accept it's their choice for third member)
1. Sandwolf
2. DGK2000
3. Hal Incandenza

Gamblers: (Anyone who wants to observe. If anyone knows how to run a simulated betting market, I think that would be hella rad.)
1. nerox

Sub Rosa fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jul 29, 2020

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Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004



Iíll play!

Iíd be cool being mafia with those broís but Iíll take anything

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002



i would like to play. i've never played mafia before.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

cheers



I may need to reread the whole OP but I am so down

DGK2000
May 3, 2007

Hotel Soap is super proud of his little perfumed balls that never get dirty or stinky

Color me in

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010



Sandwolf posted:

I may need to reread the whole OP but I am so down

DGK2000 posted:

Color me in
Presume you are accepting the Mafia spots. Up to you two to find/pick/recruit a third. Otherwise if you were wanting to be a player instead let me know.

DGK2000
May 3, 2007

Hotel Soap is super proud of his little perfumed balls that never get dirty or stinky

Sub Rosa posted:

Presume you are accepting the Mafia spots. Up to you two to find/pick/recruit a third. Otherwise if you were wanting to be a player instead let me know.

Yes, I am accepting the Mafia spot.

Mr. Steak
May 8, 2013

T.T.D.D.T.D.D

Thug lyfe.


im confused. from most of the op i assumed this was a mafia-like experimental game, but then suddenly in the rules you mention the existence of a mafia team and nightkills. so there will be a mafia wincon in addition to the 6 other wincons, but no generic town wincon in opposition to that?

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010



Mr. Steak posted:

im confused. from most of the op i assumed this was a mafia-like experimental game, but then suddenly in the rules you mention the existence of a mafia team and nightkills. so there will be a mafia wincon in addition to the 6 other wincons, but no generic town wincon in opposition to that?
The Mafia should be considered more like co-mods (so the mentioned NKs are basically mod gun) and an excuse to continue the chill masonry Sandwolf, DGK2000, and myself had in Somber's game that just finished, not as an in game team. In this hellscape world Mafia already won, they own the whole casino.

If I was a crazy coder, I think it would be neat to have a simulated bookie where the Mafia would have to set odds, and so then their agency in regards to killing lurkers or breaking ties could have the motivation of rigging bets to some extent, but that's more ambitious than I think I can really pull off. But even then it would be the Gamblers trying to beat the house with their bets in opposition as a side game.

All inmates are competing only against the other inmates, so calling it a mafia-like experimental game is correct. I think by definition it has to be perfectly balanced, because everyone starts with the same amount of relative known and unknown information. I'm very curious to see what strategies people try, and what ends up working or winning.

Also I suppose you could say that everyone is a survivor, not town. Everyone's goal is the prize of being released from prison, and it doesn't matter if you are on Team Red, and Team Red wins if you are dead before Team Red wins release from prison.

Sub Rosa fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jul 19, 2020

Mr. Steak
May 8, 2013

T.T.D.D.T.D.D

Thug lyfe.


ok i think i get it. so if there aren't any lurkers in a day then there will be no nightkill. and the mafia just gets the benefit (or detriment) of one extra side-masonry without an actual shared wincon.

1 more question: if i win 2 points in a day, i can (and must) use bith cops in the following night?

also, yeah sure i'll join this game

Mr. Steak
May 8, 2013

T.T.D.D.T.D.D

Thug lyfe.


oh, and how do people die besides tying or being a lurker?

i assume losing a match kills you?

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010



Mr. Steak posted:

1 more question: if i win 2 points in a day, i can (and must) use bith cops in the following night?
You don't have to use them, but you lose them if you don't use them. If you choose to use them, they must be used the night of the win. If you win 2 points, those two cops can be used on the same person to get both color and role, or two separate people.

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010



Mr. Steak posted:

oh, and how do people die besides tying or being a lurker?

i assume losing a match kills you?
Yes, loser is executed, ties are both executed if it's the 4th+ tie, and lurker kill are the only deaths.

tpink
Feb 18, 2013



Melman

In.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002



Steak going for post count ++ before the game has even started

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002



Not on

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002



My watch

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

cheers



I accept my position Rosa! Happy to continue to chill with yíall, also Hal would be a great addition! But Iím happy to let DGK inform the decision

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010



Get on Discord when you can

DGK2000
May 3, 2007

Hotel Soap is super proud of his little perfumed balls that never get dirty or stinky

Sandwolf posted:

I accept my position Rosa! Happy to continue to chill with yíall, also Hal would be a great addition! But Iím happy to let DGK inform the decision

Hal is good

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

cheers



I think Iím in discord! Iím also scum! gently caress you beet!

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013



im down to clown

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

The Pit Awaits


now that i understand what this is, yes absolutely.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002



Sandwolf posted:

I think Iím in discord! Iím also scum! gently caress you beet!

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NevergirlsOFFICIAL
Apr 24, 2004



I'm in
never played rock paper scissors before

Mr. Steak
May 8, 2013

T.T.D.D.T.D.D

Thug lyfe.


ive tried on 3 different occasions to wrap my head around how hammer is gonna work in this game and i've come up short every time lol. im just counting on someone else doing an effortpost about it on d1

Mr. Steak
May 8, 2013

T.T.D.D.T.D.D

Thug lyfe.


like, consider this example: 7 people vote for player A. players B and C are on different people. that's still not hammer yet, which is wild. but when it gets into, like, 5 on A, 2 on B, 2 on C, im like... figuring out when something is actually hammer is gonna be so complicated

Mr. Steak
May 8, 2013

T.T.D.D.T.D.D

Thug lyfe.


im pretty sure in that example i just gave of 5A 2B 2C, a voter on A could swap their vote to either B or C and that would result in hammer, despite them swapping off the lead. this is so weiiirrdd

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010



I look forward to seeing how people vote around the hammer rule, so I'm not going to volunteer much, but I'm happy to confirm if a scenario would or would not be the hammer.

Mr. Steak
May 8, 2013

T.T.D.D.T.D.D

Thug lyfe.


Sub Rosa posted:

I look forward to seeing how people vote around the hammer rule, so I'm not going to volunteer much, but I'm happy to confirm if a scenario would or would not be the hammer.

was i at least accurate in my example?

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010



Correct.
7-1-1 is not hammer.
5-2-2 is not hammer.
4-3-2 is hammer.

(Presuming D1 / 9 possible votes)

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010



Day could still end with the votes being 7-1-1 or 5-2-2, and then Mafia will vote in private which of the tied second place players to spare from the day's competition.

NevergirlsOFFICIAL
Apr 24, 2004



I have to withdraw myself, sorry. I know I'm going to misunderstand the rules and gently caress over my team.

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010



Welcome back if you change your mind. Let me know if you want observer roles.

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

THUNDERDOME LOSER

So, if Iím reading right, itís two faceted RPS with 3 mod like overlords? Heck, I just watched a gambling anime and the flavor alone sounds fun. Iím in!

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002



i'll read this OP eventually i promise

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

The magnificent story of Dwayt al-Shrood.



This seems like it'll be crazy in how much politicking there will be going on.

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010



Yeah

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004



The mafia will accept pizza being sent to our homes to influence us, just throwing that out there

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Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

cheers



Not just pizza too, any number of delicious deliverables

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