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hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

I was going to make that post earlier but I toasted a bagel instead. The only person playing different is Tommu, because he’s still posting.

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hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

spacing in vienna posted:

Btw this isn't a I FOUND THE LAST SCUM HERE IS MY CASE it's a few things that point in a few different directions that I'm sharing.

#1: in thread interaction

One of my fave scum tells is when scum don't just interact in the thread. They might bus and bicker, or reply to joke posts, but they don't sit and have detailed arguments about seeing things differently. So I went to read JC to see who he did/didn't reply directly to.

DGK, for example: he and DGK have several in thread interactions, sometimes as quotes, others as mentions. (E.g. "dgk, if you think X, than why did you ABC?"

Hambeet: they joke about the pronunciation of vig. After that, he talks a lot about the beet/steak fight, but doesn't directly interact with beet in thread. Also, he says steak is scum but ham town for that fight.

Hum: reacts to one of his posts by unvoting, and another that's joking around. No direct conversation.

Steak: argues with and about steak a lot, thinks he's the scummier one in beet v steak

Taste: does not ever directly respond to taste. Not even with a joke.

Tommu: reasonable back and forth

Tpink: replies to once. Makes a case on him for lurking.

spacing in vienna posted:

#3, list 2.0


He later amends this list to throw tommunist into the middle, so let's use that version:

1. SNG (scum team A)
2. GGN (scum team B)
3. PoP (town)
[3.5. Tommunist (?)]
4. Yuming (town)
5. Steak (?)
6. Hum (?)

A few things strike me here. He puts his bus high up on the list, for one, though obviously behind the person he really wants out, SNG.

But here's what is odd.

A: why is Hum suddenly on JC's hit list? He was autocleared in that last list. And JC hasn't mentioned hum at all inbetween the two posts. Why the 180?

B: tommu questioning the point of all this is enough to get him to #3.5 on the list

C: ok I thought I had a third thing here but I misread something. does steak no longer have the meta of "gets lunched early, regardless of alignment"? Because you'd think he should have gone on the auto clear list for it if he did.

spacing in vienna posted:

Here's what I got from GGN, in the interaction sweepstakes.

DGK: never replies to him, but calls him town unprompted

Ham: some discussion back and forth

Hum: he called her out, she pushed back

Steak: no replies to him or references that I can spot

Taste: no replies to him or references that I can spot

Tommu: some interaction

Tpink: doesn't reply to, mentions offhand that she could imagine him being scum

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Siv did some analysis on it, so I thought as they’re the only person still playing I’d quote them.

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

Tommunist posted:

I know this post is only half serious but this thought pattern is really bad and indicative of something scum will coast off unless challenged.

Tommunist posted:

Could I get someone else's feedback on JC (bif? Hambeet? Taste???????) Im really unsure if he's scummy or im just tilted by my notions of what consitutes bad mafia play.

Tommunist posted:

I'll be accused of riffing off my fine lad sci but ##vote JOHN CENA

Tommunist posted:

Id like to remain on JC for now because I think his actions go beyond just being lazy.


Is this an early bus or actual town scumhunting?

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

The weirder interaction siv highlight here is you and jc I think

Siv said it’s got to do with jc forgetting who was on his list.

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

if steak is scum then our chances of winning tomorrow are still good. his internet is spotty so someone can shoot him as the day starts and win (all 3 people will have guns tomorrow)

but now that I think about it, I don't see a scum steak going this long without loving up UNLESS he just lurked a bunch

which he's doing


goddamn it

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

hambeet posted:

The weirder interaction siv highlight here is you and jc I think

Siv said it’s got to do with jc forgetting who was on his list.

ok you can flip me but if you're scum I hope one of the town you don't kill tonight shoots you before you can shoot one of them

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

You’re actually playing too, which is odd

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Normally it’s snippy one liners

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

I always play at endgame, but smart scum usually kill me off early on

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

you hear that scum? Yo dumb

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

i mean they hosed up the night kill two nights in a row lol

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Maybe they both wanted you out then.

Public enemy #2

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
Whhomst we voting 4

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
Gonna put this out here ##vote harmbot

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

##vote tommu

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
Imagine trying to vote for confirmed town you low bellied scum beast

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

well you did

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

hambeet posted:

well you did

?

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy
gently caress. Dgk was a good target. Now what.

I really don't want to have to put effort in again holy poo poo

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

hambeet posted:

The weirder interaction siv highlight here is you and jc I think

Siv said it’s got to do with jc forgetting who was on his list.

I mean that's a guess. It could actually be his way of having it both ways, trying to incriminate hum but also lightly bus. I can't tell.

I'd still love to know why team B killed Spoonsy.

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

Spoonsy posted:

Let's look at this for a moment - In a scenario where we no lunch today and then the scum continues to be [jean ralphio voice]The Woooooooorst[/jean ralphio voice], that means starting today with the same number of players, just with a fresh gun. Multi gun drops don't start until D5, at which point the "fun" begins.

I really would rather not no lunch today. We've lucked (is it luck?) out at the lack of NKs in this game. We still need 9 votes on someone and the top person has 3 with less than 3 hours to go (assuming Epsilon's push on Discord is correct which of course it is)

I'd be okay with DGK or beet today. Both have votes. I guess I'll ##vote beet and I should be online at EOD

Steak pushing to kill spoonsy to make beet look bad?

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

I'm going to bed, someone else figure this out

I'll check in tomorrow

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

it's tommu, let's get 'im

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
Im town you absolute dirt crab

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
How you feel about steak hambotn

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

i like it medium rare

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
Mister steak-ums I mean

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

idk honestly i ran out of steam in this game about 3 irl days ago

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

and now im hung over


i had hoped our guns would clear this up today.


steak i liked his target of dgk, honestly.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
Same but a week and a half

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

Wow sick thanks for posting everyone

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

we thought we should wait for you

Mr. Steak
May 9, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mr. Humalong posted:

Wow sick thanks for posting everyone

emptyquote

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

Mr. Steak posted:

emptyquote

Mr steak

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

Ok, hear me out here:

I think we should no lunch.

We killed two town today. If we go into tonight with 5 alive it forces the last scum to clear one of us or withhold their kill (if they can). Then we go into tomorrow with either 4 or 5 people alive and 3 guns.

If we mislunch today we probably lose tomorrow because the scum is guaranteed to have a gun and all they have to do is shoot first and they win.

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

I'll be honest: I have no loving idea which of you four it is. So well played to whomever is the last scum, you've made it incredibly far and it's still going to come down to the wire.


But I want you to loving sweat about it first.

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

Going to wait about 3 hours for anyone to chime in before I vote no lunch

spacing in vienna
Jan 4, 2007

people they want us to fall down
but we won't ever touch the ground
we're perfectly balanced, we float around
til no one is here, do you hear the sound?


Lipstick Apathy

Mr. Humalong posted:

Ok, hear me out here:

I think we should no lunch.

We killed two town today. If we go into tonight with 5 alive it forces the last scum to clear one of us or withhold their kill (if they can). Then we go into tomorrow with either 4 or 5 people alive and 3 guns.

If we mislunch today we probably lose tomorrow because the scum is guaranteed to have a gun and all they have to do is shoot first and they win.

Not if I shoot second. I don't think the game is called at one town one scum if the townie has a gun, is it?

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Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

spacing in vienna posted:

Not if I shoot second. I don't think the game is called at one town one scum if the townie has a gun, is it?

I don't know, I didn't even consider that. Hmmmm

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