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skudmunky posted:Counterpoint: maintaining and adjusting a triple sucks and nobody should be subjected to it. Also your chain is actually drooping to the pavement? It’s fine, doesn’t need touching often at all. And still the only good choice for touring anyway.
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Low key wanting to put a double or triple onto my cruiser actuated by an out of the way friction shifter
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Jestery posted:Low key wanting to put a double or triple onto my cruiser actuated by an out of the way friction shifter Why stop there? Check out the "mountain tamer" 4x drivetrain. Imagine an alternate world where campagnolo is releasing a new 13x front mech - new bifurcated bottom bracket technology puts your chain ring in the exact center of the bike!
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2x/1x is great and all but triples are by far the cheapest way to get sub 1:1 gearing on most bikes. If you're looking to ride a heavy bike up a steep hill, you're going to pay a lot more for an equivalent range, especially once you start pricing out subcompact chainrings and giant cassettes. Bonus for going cheap: triples are much easier to adjust on 3x8 or 3x9 than 10 or 11 speed and then you basically never touch them again with friction shifters.
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Salt Fish posted:Why stop there? Check out the "mountain tamer" 4x drivetrain. Imagine an alternate world where campagnolo is releasing a new 13x front mech - new bifurcated bottom bracket technology puts your chain ring in the exact center of the bike! 4x is old. 5x is the new way https://www.renehersecycles.com/compass-introduces-quintuple-cranks/ Mountain Tamer is no longer available - http://abundantadventures.com/quads.html
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"Front derailleurs are in the works – in the mean time, you can ask your builder to make a custom one, or just move the chain by hand". I'm sold!
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At the risk of fanning the flames, could you literally climb anything with the 630% or whatever range on a Pinion? Is that the ultimate “1x” setup?
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eeenmachine posted:At the risk of fanning the flames, could you literally climb anything with the 630% or whatever range on a Pinion? Is that the ultimate “1x” setup? There comes a point where it's quicker to walk.
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I want to build a tandem with a rohloff hub just to compare it against my current 3x9 setup, but that is an expensive experiment.
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Salt Fish posted:"Front derailleurs are in the works – in the mean time, you can ask your builder to make a custom one, or just move the chain by hand". check the date
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SimonSays posted:There comes a point where it's quicker to walk. And a point when you’re going too slow to balance anyway. I’ve actually come across steep enough roads (Dorset, Lake District) that in wet winter conditions it was actually as hard to walk up them than cycle. And certainly in cycling shoes.
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SimonSays posted:There comes a point where it's quicker to walk. That and at a certain point it’s nearly impossible to maintain enough power to propel yourself forward at a speed fast enough that you don’t simply fall over.
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Right. I suppose the bigger advantage is having a much higher top speed than other bikes that can climb as well then?
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I'm not sure if this is a question with much of an answer, but I'm putting a fixed gear together and I just ordered a crank. The seller isn't saying what size of axel it needs, though (this is a basic square taper pagan crank). Is there a common size that would work as a best guess so I can get everything finished up asap? or are these things all over the map in terms of Q factor?
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BaiSha posted:I'm not sure if this is a question with much of an answer, but I'm putting a fixed gear together and I just ordered a crank. The seller isn't saying what size of axel it needs, though (this is a basic square taper pagan crank). Is there a common size that would work as a best guess so I can get everything finished up asap? or are these things all over the map in terms of Q factor? Are you asking what spindle length you’d need for your square taper bottom bracket? Depends on the bike and the Q factor desired. What’s the frame?
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BaiSha posted:I'm not sure if this is a question with much of an answer, but I'm putting a fixed gear together and I just ordered a crank. The seller isn't saying what size of axel it needs, though (this is a basic square taper pagan crank). Is there a common size that would work as a best guess so I can get everything finished up asap? or are these things all over the map in terms of Q factor? Depends on the frame yeah, but the manufacturer typically has a recommendation. If not you just gently caress around with BBs and find something that works
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I don't know who needs to know this, but I found out that a standard carpenter's pencil is the perfect size to remove the left side preload bolt on Shimano hollowtech II cranks. This (accidental) solution turned out way better than the other options of: big screwdriver, small chisel, Allen key turned sideways, pinky finger (mine), pinky finger (wife's), and yelling at it.
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I was hoping I could shortcut my way through the "goof around with different BBs" stage of things. Frame is a Springer Pantone if anyone knows those. Is there some standardization in crankset width? Sounds like I can figure something out by taking to the frame seller
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kimbo305 posted:
A whole bike.
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BaiSha posted:I was hoping I could shortcut my way through the "goof around with different BBs" stage of things. Frame is a Springer Pantone if anyone knows those. Is there some standardization in crankset width? Sounds like I can figure something out by taking to the frame seller The AliExpress site suggests to use 103-118mm spindle lengths. That’s a pretty huge range, I’d probably stick something around 107-110 on there.
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BaiSha posted:standardization in crankset width Lmao
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Since it's a fixie you also probably want the same chainline with the chainring and the cog. This depends first on the rear hub and then on the crank but I think 42mm is most common. The frame can be a limit on this by preventing the cranks from turning with the "correct" bb axle length.
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BaiSha posted:I was hoping I could shortcut my way through the "goof around with different BBs" stage of things. Frame is a Springer Pantone if anyone knows those. Is there some standardization in crankset width? Sounds like I can figure something out by taking to the frame seller There are a few variables you need to know: 1) Rear hub spacing: the universal standard is 120mm, but some fixie bikes are spaced at 130 or 135 for dumb reasons. 2) Crank taper: this is based on the brand of your crankset. For modern stuff, it's either ISO (most) or JIS (Sugino, Shimano, a few others). 3) the bottom bracket: unless you got something weird this is a 68mm BSA. Assuming all else is normal, 103mm is standard for JIS, and 107mm for ISO.
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MarxCarl posted:Mountain Tamer is no longer available - http://abundantadventures.com/quads.html To my great surprise I saw the message "Last update 1/21/2022" at the bottom
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Just got my email through about my LEL place, so a good time to put in my first 100k ride of the year (and at about 20% more power than my previous "longer" rides post-accident)
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anyone have recommendations for 650 gravel tires? ive been on WTB byways for a while now and i think i'd prefer to get something knobbier and not WTB.
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BraveUlysses posted:anyone have recommendations for 650 gravel tires? ive been on WTB byways for a while now and i think i'd prefer to get something knobbier and not WTB. I don't know much about gravel but I do know that what tyres you want are incredibly dependent on what kind of surfaces you're riding on, so please give a brief description to help those who know more than me when they post later
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BaiSha posted:I was hoping I could shortcut my way through the "goof around with different BBs" stage of things. Nobody gets off this easy 
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BraveUlysses posted:anyone have recommendations for 650 gravel tires? ive been on WTB byways for a while now and i think i'd prefer to get something knobbier and not WTB. American Classic Aggregate have been fine (40 or 50mm) Maxxis Rambler in 47 if you want a bit lighter, a bit posher, and twice as expensive.
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bicievino posted:There are a few variables you need to know: This was really helpful, thanks! BB shell and rear hub are the standard 68/120mm, and I don't think they were going too crazy with the design on any of these parts. I'll pick up a few cheap BBs and see what fits before I grab a nice one.
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SimonSays posted:There comes a point where it's quicker to walk. On my recumbent I have a 1st gear that I use maybe once a year, a 24/34 (26” wheels) At that point I’m going 2.5mph. My grade limit is when I lose “steering authority” because the front wheel gets unweighted. Still, pedaling at 2.5 is easier than walking 35lbs of bike+gear up a hill.
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BraveUlysses posted:anyone have recommendations for 650 gravel tires? ive been on WTB byways for a while now and i think i'd prefer to get something knobbier and not WTB. Donnelly MSOs are nice and thiccc if you get the 650x50
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I generally liked my ramblers. Not very aggressive tread but more than a byway Pretty smooth and fast and supple. Not great puncture resistance or durability. Center of tread wears pretty fast, mine were toast by early summer after putting them on in the spring last year and had a few patches in them. And there's always the gravel king. jamal fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Jan 21, 2022 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:I don't know much about gravel but I do know that what tyres you want are incredibly dependent on what kind of surfaces you're riding on, so please give a brief description to help those who know more than me when they post later mostly hardpack with loose gravel on top which has been mostly ok sweat poteto posted:American Classic Aggregate have been fine (40 or 50mm) ramblers look good but i'm curious about the conti trail speeds, since they come in a 40. while i can do 47mm no prob i think i might try a skinnier setup and see if that gets a better balance of improving speed at the cost of a bit of plushness Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:Donnelly MSOs are nice and thiccc if you get the 650x50 i have a set of those in 700x35 but i'm not so sure i liked them that much
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conti trails are fast af
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amenenema posted:1x is great, so is 2x, but here's an additional benefit of 2x in my experience: On a monstercross/burly gravel bike a 2x setup basically gives you a road 1x and a singletrack 1x.
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BraveUlysses posted:ramblers look good but i'm curious about the conti trail speeds, since they come in a 40. while i can do 47mm no prob i think i might try a skinnier setup and see if that gets a better balance of improving speed at the cost of a bit of plushness If it wasn't for the no-WTB constraint I'd suggest the Resolute. I had those before the Ramblers.
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The road biking is kind of poo poo in nw NM compared to Denver so I decided to buy a mountain bike. I'm a 5'6" manlet and wanted to go with 27.5 tires but supply chain issues and being in the middle of nowhere means I take what I can get, which ended up being a Stumpjumper Comp Alloy. It's cool and all but I think I'm just a roadie at heart. Hopefully it continues to grow on me. I do wonder if there's any kind of correlation between introversion and road biking, and extroversion and mountain biking.
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Not in my personal experience -- I like riding trails by myself just fine. For me it's more technically demanding at a much lower safety threshold. That is, you can have a bike handling challenge at 10mph on the trail and might still be bored at 25mph on the road. Not that 10mph is automatically safe for mtb, of course.
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regulargonzalez posted:The road biking is kind of poo poo in nw NM compared to Denver so I decided to buy a mountain bike. I'm a 5'6" manlet and wanted to go with 27.5 tires but supply chain issues and being in the middle of nowhere means I take what I can get, which ended up being a Stumpjumper Comp Alloy. I’m a long time roadie getting into MTB, mostly because my wife is a nature freak and loves getting out into the woods, and my feeling is that I miss the feeling of just getting into an efficient groove and just pedaling for a long time when I MTB compared to road riding. On the MTB im always stopping and starting and have to be really focused on the immediate piece of trail I’m on, rather than focusing on a longer distance and timespan that I get on the road.
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