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Partial Octopus
Feb 4, 2006




More opinions are always good!


Shop said he can probably get a Ripmo by May but finding Shimano parts is apparently super difficult right now.

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Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Praying for no mechanicals when the season eventually starts.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Partial Octopus posted:

Looking to pick up an Ibis Ripmo this season. Is XT worth it over GX Eagle?
Unless the diff is massive yes.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

funkymonks posted:

I’d personally go SLX with carbon rims for 100$ more than the XT package if that’s your price range. I’d rather spend the money saving weight on the wheels than components and SLX vs XT is pretty darn close in quality.
Are the new SLX shifters less sloppy than older stuff? SLX also doesn't let you upshift 2 at a time which is minor, but aggravating.

You can also just stick an XT shifter on the SLX bike for little money, and I'd take that and carbon rims over full XT tbh.

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

Partial Octopus posted:

More opinions are always good!


Shop said he can probably get a Ripmo by May but finding Shimano parts is apparently super difficult right now.

Assuming Ibis isn't like SC and already sold all of their 2021 stock to dealers...

I have a new bike coming in 1-2 weeks (not an Ibis) and one big reason I jumped now is that I could get a Shimano setup I wanted on it. I'm not sure sourcing Shimano parts is gonna get any easier until the bike boom eases in a year or whatever

e: my experience with GX RD is that it shifted fine until it didn't and now I'm struggling to get it to acceptable so I can sell the bike. Most of the time it's fine and then it starts screwing up, it's aggravating. I'd rather have the Shimano reliability.
That said if Shimano parts weren't available for a long time I'd still consider going GX if you wanted a bike sooner rather than later

Levitate fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Feb 25, 2021

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

Boogalo posted:

I'll 2nd Osprey. Really like their 2L hip pack I got and it survived me landing on it OTB without popping. If only my shoulder had been so lucky.

There are a plenty of valid reasons not to wear a hydration backpack, but mine acts like a piece of armor in accidents and I'll always bring mine with me.

hemale in pain
Jun 5, 2010




I've been considering a hippack for my stupid full sus with a dumb frame no water bottle can fit in.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

hemale in pain posted:

I've been considering a hippack for my stupid full sus with a dumb frame no water bottle can fit in.

Hip packs rule. It is pretty much all I use on my rides.

Partial Octopus
Feb 4, 2006



spwrozek posted:

Hip packs rule. It is pretty much all I use on my rides.

Same. It's nice to give your back some ventilation in the summer and keep most of the weight low.

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003

French Canadian posted:

My wife and I are planning a grand RV adventure thru the summer/fall months.

We live in Wisconsin, and would want to eventually wind up in Washington state.

Does anyone have experience with grand MTB trail systems along the northern states? I don't think we'd go as far south as Colorado. But Minnesota, the Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, and of course Washington (which I can probably figure out myself) would be the plan.

I should say it doesn't have to be purely MTB-awesome. I realize...like...Yellowstone would be fun to visit even without MTBing. But this is the MTB thread and I'm taking 100% advantage of my wife's willingness to MTB.

You're going to want to mark down going to the White Clouds north of Ketchum, near Stanley ID. If you need more detail, there's some good bike places in Hailey or you can stop at Backwoods in Ketchum and they'll set you right, they've always got a couple good riders working downstairs for them.

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
I think there's some pretty good bike parks near Boise (Eagle, Bogus Basin) but I've mostly just ridden some of the foothill trails near there and they're pretty decent but nothing wild

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003

Levitate posted:

I think there's some pretty good bike parks near Boise (Eagle, Bogus Basin) but I've mostly just ridden some of the foothill trails near there and they're pretty decent but nothing wild

https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/7029103/little-casino-big-casino-loop
https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/7006311/boundary-loop

That's a couple of them, but around there there's a handful of amazing rides. I'm kinda disappointed they killed some access with the fourth of july wilderness stuff, but it's also heavily used and we haven't worked there since 2014. All the USFS people we worked for then are retired now, so I know things have changed some. I'd either check with SNRA HQ or even better at the bike stores.

Partial Octopus
Feb 4, 2006



So a shop got back to me with a build they can have done by June. It's a bit more than I want to spend though. They can only get Fox suspension at the moment so that drives the price up a but over the stock DVO.

What would you guys recommend downgrading to trim the cost back a bit?

-Xt Drivetrain

-Bike Yoke Revive 2.0 dropper in your choice of length

-Pro CNC stem and carbon Tharsis 800mm handlebar

-Fox Factory 36 fork and Fox Factory X2 Rear shock

-Pick of Maxxis tires-we usually do the 2.5 Minion Dhf and 2.4 Dissector

-Ibis S35 Carbon Rims

-DT Swiss 350 hubs. We feel like these are superior to the stock Ibis hubs or the I9 hubs

We build our wheels in house so we can do any rim/hub combination you would like.

If I went down a group set from XT to SLX would I lose much besides being able to shift gears while shifting?

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
As mentioned if you can get SLX that would save some money and I suspect you wouldn't lose anything you'd notice, SLX is supposed to be real good.

Can they only get Factory stuff or can they get Performance?

Could probably save a chunk with good alloy rims rather than carbon too. I think you get some ride quality improvements like snappier feel, lighter weight, but I dunno that it's like going from skinny shallow alloy road wheels to wide deep light carbon road wheels

e: DT 350 hubs are kind of a benchmark of reliable quality hubs that aren't expensive so I'd probably stick with those

Partial Octopus
Feb 4, 2006



They are only selling them with Factory unfortunately, going to SLX saves around $500 and is functionally identical but a pound heavier. So that definitely seems worth it.

meowmeowmeowmeow
Jan 4, 2017

Partial Octopus posted:

So a shop got back to me with a build they can have done by June. It's a bit more than I want to spend though. They can only get Fox suspension at the moment so that drives the price up a but over the stock DVO.

What would you guys recommend downgrading to trim the cost back a bit?

-Xt Drivetrain

-Bike Yoke Revive 2.0 dropper in your choice of length

-Pro CNC stem and carbon Tharsis 800mm handlebar

-Fox Factory 36 fork and Fox Factory X2 Rear shock

-Pick of Maxxis tires-we usually do the 2.5 Minion Dhf and 2.4 Dissector

-Ibis S35 Carbon Rims

-DT Swiss 350 hubs. We feel like these are superior to the stock Ibis hubs or the I9 hubs

We build our wheels in house so we can do any rim/hub combination you would like.

If I went down a group set from XT to SLX would I lose much besides being able to shift gears while shifting?

Personally I'd go SLX + XT shifter, performance elite vs factory (just coating difference), alloy bars (carbon bars scare me having gouged some alu ones), full DT wheels might be cheaper? I'd go alu rims vs carbon but again personal preference.

Keep the maxxis tires, DHF + whatever rear you want is a classic combo.

e:missed a post about the suspension

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

SLX + XT shifter is the dogs bollocks. If you want to save more money then go full Deore with XT shifter, the only downside is little more weight but you have that savings for carbon wheels.

I'd much rather have a heavier cassette and lose rotational weight in the rims.

e: Something else that just occurred to me after my last post is what brakes they're offering. Are they XT 4-pistons?

If I were min-maxing with my own money I would run Deore + XT shifter with the carbon wheels and take the money savings from Deore vs SLX to run the biggest brakes and rotors I could.

The benefits of carbon rims and bigger brakes way outweighs the differences between XT and Deore, let alone SLX and Deore. As already said, the only bit of XT that's worth spending for is the shifter.

ee: on my own bike I went full SLX with XT shifter (Deore hadn't been released yet) and used the money savings to get a set of Zee boat anchors with 203mm rotors.

Wistful of Dollars fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Feb 26, 2021

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
This is all nice to discuss and all but the real answer is take whatever combination of parts they can actually put on a bike and get you. Shimano is out of most of that and has crazy lead times.

Steve French
Sep 8, 2003

Yeah the reason I wished good luck getting a Ripmo earlier is that I ordered one with XT in early July and received it about 10 days ago, primarily due to delays in getting the Shimano parts.

meowmeowmeowmeow
Jan 4, 2017

Wistful of Dollars posted:

SLX + XT shifter is the dogs bollocks. If you want to save more money then go full Deore with XT shifter, the only downside is little more weight but you have that savings for carbon wheels.

I'd much rather have a heavier cassette and lose rotational weight in the rims.

e: Something else that just occurred to me after my last post is what brakes they're offering. Are they XT 4-pistons?

If I were min-maxing with my own money I would run Deore + XT shifter with the carbon wheels and take the money savings from Deore vs SLX to run the biggest brakes and rotors I could.

The benefits of carbon rims and bigger brakes way outweighs the differences between XT and Deore, let alone SLX and Deore. As already said, the only bit of XT that's worth spending for is the shifter.

ee: on my own bike I went full SLX with XT shifter (Deore hadn't been released yet) and used the money savings to get a set of Zee boat anchors with 203mm rotors.

Is this good dog's bollocks or bad dogs bollocks?

Also agree to make sure they're 4 pistons and getting into Zees might be worth it.

Also I'm assuming it goes Deore -> SLX -> XT but tbh shumano's ranging confuses the poo poo out of me because deore is in half of their groupos full names

Partial Octopus
Feb 4, 2006



Thanks for all the help. Ended up going with slx + xt shifters. Got it somewhere close to my budget... Well enough to make it work.

Does anyone here have one? I'm a bit torn on sizing. They had a M AF that I rode around the parking lot of the place. It felt good standing up but felt a little cramped seatrd due to the super steep seat post. I felt like I was very upright while pedaling. I think I should probably size up and the bike shop employee agreed, but I'd like a second opinion. They didn't have a L in stock so I didn't get to try one.
I'm 5'9 with a 30" inseam. All torso and arms. Short legs. My current bike is a '17 canyon spectral in M and it fits well.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

meowmeowmeowmeow posted:

Is this good dog's bollocks or bad dogs bollocks?

Also agree to make sure they're 4 pistons and getting into Zees might be worth it.

Also I'm assuming it goes Deore -> SLX -> XT but tbh shumano's ranging confuses the poo poo out of me because deore is in half of their groupos full names

If something is the Dog's bollocks it means it's good. Dogs are always licking their bollocks so they must be good.

Yes, it goes Deore - SLX - XT - XTR on the MTB side of things.

Partial Octopus posted:

Thanks for all the help. Ended up going with slx + xt shifters. Got it somewhere close to my budget... Well enough to make it work.

Does anyone here have one? I'm a bit torn on sizing. They had a M AF that I rode around the parking lot of the place. It felt good standing up but felt a little cramped seatrd due to the super steep seat post. I felt like I was very upright while pedaling. I think I should probably size up and the bike shop employee agreed, but I'd like a second opinion. They didn't have a L in stock so I didn't get to try one.
I'm 5'9 with a 30" inseam. All torso and arms. Short legs. My current bike is a '17 canyon spectral in M and it fits well.

I haven't ridden the latest generation Ibis models so I don't know if it would still be the case but when I last demoed them two years ago I found they ran small and I went up a size. This might not be the case with the newer models but I haven't had the chance to ride one to find out.

Wistful of Dollars fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Feb 26, 2021

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

What I am learning here is I am going to enjoy my new bike buying experience in 2023 when poo poo is available again. dreamy.

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




I can't even get a replacement helmet for the one I split in half back in October. Zero stock.

feelix
Nov 27, 2016
THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ
I still can't believe I managed to snag my Neuron at a deep discount in July

Bud Manstrong
Dec 11, 2003

The Curse of the Flying Criosphinx

Partial Octopus posted:

Does anyone here have one? I'm a bit torn on sizing. They had a M AF that I rode around the parking lot of the place. It felt good standing up but felt a little cramped seatrd due to the super steep seat post. I felt like I was very upright while pedaling. I think I should probably size up and the bike shop employee agreed, but I'd like a second opinion. They didn't have a L in stock so I didn't get to try one.
I'm 5'9 with a 30" inseam. All torso and arms. Short legs. My current bike is a '17 canyon spectral in M and it fits well.

I’m 5’9” with a 31” inseam and longish arms. I ride a L Ripmo V2. Could have gone with either size, but I liked the cockpit length for pedaling and I prefer the longer reach and wheelbase for my riding style and the terrain/trails here.

I went SLX with carbon wheels, factory fork, and X2. I can fit a 185mm Revive post; I can’t remember if post length was an option or not. I would definitely specify 170mm cranks if you can.

Bud Manstrong fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Feb 26, 2021

bicievino
Feb 5, 2015

Bud Manstrong posted:

I’m 5’9” with a 31” inseam and longish arms. I ride a L Ripmo V2. Could have gone with either size, but I liked the cockpit length for pedaling and I prefer the longer reach and wheelbase for my riding style and the terrain/trails here.

I went SLX with carbon wheels, factory fork, and X2. I can fit a 185mm Revive post; I can’t remember if post length was an option or not. I would definitely specify 170mm cranks if you can.



yo, you mistyped 165mm cranks

Bud Manstrong
Dec 11, 2003

The Curse of the Flying Criosphinx

bicievino posted:

yo, you mistyped 165mm cranks

Shortest you can get from Ibis are 170s

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Bud Manstrong posted:

Shortest you can get from Ibis are 170s

When they ask you if they can sub the out of stock SLX cranks for something else, get 165 then.

Partial Octopus
Feb 4, 2006



Yeah I definitely need 165s. I got tiny legs. Still contemplating on the M vs L but I found a shop with a L Ripmo AF in stock so that should help. I like the idea of having a more comfortable climbing position but I'm worried I'll loose some of the playfulness by sizing up.

bicievino
Feb 5, 2015

kimbo305 posted:

When they ask you if they can sub the out of stock SLX cranks for something else, get 165 then.

realtalk tho 165s are backordered through every wholesaler in the US for ???, so, maybe not make it a dealbreaker.
I'm just rolling the 175's my bike came with until they finally come in - maybe a bit frivolous but for $150 or whatever I didn't want to wait months and months.

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii

Partial Octopus posted:

Yeah I definitely need 165s. I got tiny legs. Still contemplating on the M vs L but I found a shop with a L Ripmo AF in stock so that should help. I like the idea of having a more comfortable climbing position but I'm worried I'll loose some of the playfulness by sizing up.

Try both, ask the shop workers for their thoughts. Ultimately I don't think it's going to be a huge deal. I would optimize for the uphill, ie make sure it's comfy to pedal for a while because there is lots and lots of climbing in CO

funkymonks
Aug 31, 2004

Pillbug
I'm 5'7" on a medium with a 29" inseam and I like it just fine. Stack is maybe a little bit high but I prefer more a more upright position while seated so that doesn't bother me. But standover and reach fit great. I would think a large would be good for someone 2 inches taller than me.

Hayes please restock your poo poo. I want a Mezzer for my Ripmo.

Partial Octopus
Feb 4, 2006



Thanks for the advice everyone. I got my build pretty dialed in at this point. 90% sure I'm going to go with a medium. SLX + XT shifter, ibis hub carbon rims. Leaning towards Fox suspension but has anyone ridden the DVO? I'm not sure if the Fox upgrade is worth it for me. I'm generally a set it and forget it kinda person when it comes to my suspension. Occasionally I'll change the rebound based on the trail but thats about it.

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii

Partial Octopus posted:

Thanks for the advice everyone. I got my build pretty dialed in at this point. 90% sure I'm going to go with a medium. SLX + XT shifter, ibis hub carbon rims. Leaning towards Fox suspension but has anyone ridden the DVO? I'm not sure if the Fox upgrade is worth it for me. I'm generally a set it and forget it kinda person when it comes to my suspension. Occasionally I'll change the rebound based on the trail but thats about it.

I went with the Fox upgrade because I like both their fork and shock, but Ibis is building the bikes assuming it ships with the DVO so I'm sure it'll be fine if you don't have a strong opinion either way.

funkymonks
Aug 31, 2004

Pillbug
I have a DVO Sapphire D1 on my Chameleon and like it very very much. For me at least, the off-the-top setting is better than anything Fox or Rockshox has for increasing plushness for high speed chatter. The fork starts to move when you breathe on it, super smooth, no stiction. If you want something for big hits, I can't really comment on that since I don't ride my hardtail on those kind of trails but its been great on rocky/rooty trails and tech climbs and rock gardens.

I am pretty sure the OTT and Damper is the same with the Onyx just getting a bigger chassis and air spring. Also DVO folks will pick up the phone and answer questions about tuning if you call.

I am trying to get a Mezzer for my Ripmo personally, but I may give up waiting and get an Onyx instead.

e: Also check with your shop about servicing DVO vs Fox stuff. Maybe they do everything and that won't be a decision point but there are some shops that don't do in house service on some brands either due to lack of training or lack of tools and they send stuff out. Which makes maintenance more expensive. I think sending a shock to Fox for service is a couple hundred bucks plus shipping but if you can get it done locally it can be half that.

funkymonks fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Feb 28, 2021

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

I'd love it if I could swap forks for a day in the park to try a fox 40 or DVO, or ohlins.

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




This thing popped up in the local group, gonna go take a look at it in the morning. Anything I should super look out for? Price seems ok-ish. ~2k under what a 2021 carbon would cost if you could actually find one, plus spares. About the cost of an alloy one.

quote:

Asking $2500
Stumpjumper 2019 model year 27.5 (size Large)
• Currently set up 150mm front and rear.
• INCLUDED: 130mm fork air spring and 130mm rear shock + linkage so you could run this as the ST Stumpjumper (130/130). Options baby. options.
• Bike is stock with fox 34 rhythm fork and fox dps shocks. Drive train is 1x12 NX. Xfusion manic 150mm dropper.
• Wheels and saddle were taken off when I bought it so they're lightly used (boost wheels are alloy rovals with 29mm internal rims set up tubeless with a butcher 2.6 front and eliminator 2.6 rear)
• Will also include spare derailleur hanger and some spare 27.5 tires if you want'em.




Is this dumb? It looks ok, plus it's purple. I've not been riding long enough for my fat rear end to notice differences in suspension as long as you can air it up enough to not bottom out all the time. My other bike is a roscoe 8 in ML so I think this'll fit too but be a little bigger and still ok.

feelix
Nov 27, 2016
THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ
Based on what I've been seeing in local classifieds, seems TGTBT. I haven't seen a single modern alloy-framed bike for less than that, let alone carbon. People are marking up bikes over MSRP even. I guess the only really major thing that would be a disaster would be frame cracks or something majorly wrong with the fork though?

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Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




feelix posted:

Based on what I've been seeing in local classifieds, seems TGTBT. I haven't seen a single modern alloy-framed bike for less than that, let alone carbon. People are marking up bikes over MSRP even. I guess the only really major thing that would be a disaster would be frame cracks or something majorly wrong with the fork though?

It's posted in our local private group by a person people know so it does seem to be legit. The big thing I'll ask is why he got a new bike. If it was to switch to road/gravel then its probably pristine. Looked up on facebook he's a super lanky dude so its at least not been beat on by someone like me :sun:

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