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Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep






Welp I did end up buying this thing. Cleaned up pretty good. It turns a pretty purple in low light.



Needed dropper service done and rear shock tuned up, those are done. Spent the evening doing a re-lube on the stumpy. Shifting a little weird so I lubed the mech and re-tightened the cable. Indexed ok but its still clicky in spots. Eyed up the cassette and its wobbling a bit. D'oh. At least it's just NX and spares aren't $500. Even GX isn't compatible with the hub splines.
Used bikes just like used cars heh. Still happy with it so far.

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vikingstrike
Sep 23, 2007

whats happening, captain

VelociBacon posted:

Ah alright yeah I haven't been paying any attention to that and hadn't heard of it.

Oh, and forgot to put in my post itís new GX AXS. So no longer a XX1 or X01 thing. Apparently the price point will be pretty good. Weíll see.

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006



Dinosaur Gum



It was warm and sunny today and it feels like springgggggggg.

I feel absolutely great on the bike at the moment, loving it.

WHERE MY HAT IS AT
Jan 7, 2011


I'm looking at a new MTB, coming from roadbikes and after talking to our local shops I've got it sort of narrowed down to a couple potential bikes. The Trek Fuel EX 8 XT and the Kona Process 134 CR. On paper at least they look largely the same, save for Shimano vs SRAM and 4mm of rear travel vs fancy-rear end regressive valving. Carbon vs aluminum frame as well but they somehow weigh the same so I'll call that a wash.

Kind of a tossup, one of my local shops has a leftover 2020 Kona in stock that I can get for ~$600 more than the Trek and I could have it today. The Trek isn't expected to come in until mid-May at the earliest (and with supply chains being as hosed as they are who knows).

Is there anything I'm missing that should sway me one way or the other? The cost difference isn't a huge consideration as much as getting the right bike. I live in Canmore FWIW and will mostly just be using the bike as a do-it-all trail rider. I'd like to not have something too mushy to pedal cross country and maybe do some light bikepacking with but able to do some downhill without feeling like I really need more travel. If we go to Whistler or somewhere with lift-accessed downhill a couple times a year I'll just rent.

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009



Car Hater posted:

Have done a two days there, was worth the stop. Some great trails in town and within a short drive, camping nearby, Walmart museum is pretty neat/horrifying depending on your perspective. If it's a longer stop there's some downhill action at lake leatherwood nearby.

Thank you.

vote_no
Nov 21, 2005

The rush is on.

Ropes4u posted:

One more question for the weekend trip planning. Has anyone been to Bentonville Arkansas?

My wife, she is from the south, keeps bringing it up as a trip to link together with a visit to her parents.

I havenít been, but Iíd look for the trails Rock Solid built and do all those

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself





WHERE MY HAT IS AT posted:

I'm looking at a new MTB, coming from roadbikes and after talking to our local shops I've got it sort of narrowed down to a couple potential bikes. The Trek Fuel EX 8 XT and the Kona Process 134 CR. On paper at least they look largely the same, save for Shimano vs SRAM and 4mm of rear travel vs fancy-rear end regressive valving. Carbon vs aluminum frame as well but they somehow weigh the same so I'll call that a wash.

Kind of a tossup, one of my local shops has a leftover 2020 Kona in stock that I can get for ~$600 more than the Trek and I could have it today. The Trek isn't expected to come in until mid-May at the earliest (and with supply chains being as hosed as they are who knows).

Is there anything I'm missing that should sway me one way or the other? The cost difference isn't a huge consideration as much as getting the right bike. I live in Canmore FWIW and will mostly just be using the bike as a do-it-all trail rider. I'd like to not have something too mushy to pedal cross country and maybe do some light bikepacking with but able to do some downhill without feeling like I really need more travel. If we go to Whistler or somewhere with lift-accessed downhill a couple times a year I'll just rent.

I have a 19 Fuel EX 8 with the GX 10-50 drivetrain. I like and this one doesn't seem too much different with a few geometry tweaks (slacker, lower offset fork, etc). One thing that's odd about the Fuels is that the stack height is lower to many other comparable bikes by around 20-30mm. My seat is always higher than my bars and I don't like that from a comfort perspective when seated pedaling. It doesn't seem to fit my body proportions as good as it could possibly. The rear hubs are really nice and can be upgraded to really fast engagement (stock is already pretty drat good) for about $30 which most hubs can't do. The XR4 tires are really good IMO for the XC trails I ride, plenty of grip and good transition knobs so they don't have that numb zone in-between the side and center knobs that more aggressive tires seem to have less of (I don't lean the bike far enough to really get onto the side knobs, probably ). The dropper is decent but mine seems to rise back up slower and slower after a couple years. I've tried servicing it but there's no valve to add more air to it so best I can do is try to keep it clean. I like the flip chip for options and it's pretty easy to change around if you want to tweak stuff. I like the rear suspension and don't get much pedal bob. I don't really care for 35mm bars since it's newer and there are less options. Also the knock block is alright but annoying if you throw the bike into the car for traveling. On the trail it's less of a problem that you'll never notice really, just limits stem options again like the 35mm bars.

All that said, I would 100% take XT over GX, and prefer Shimano brakes of the Trek but that's up to personal preference. With how hard it is to get bikes right now, it's still probably better to go with "whatever is available" if you want to get out and ride.

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar

Bike supply is pretty screwed up. If you can get a bike in your price range that fits your needs go for it. I have a bike on order that Iím going to bail on if I donít have it by June 1.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.








this poo poo annoys me to no end. local name in our scene has been running these big group events for 6 months now. some of these people already gave each other covid and got real sick. loving idiots.

meowmeowmeowmeow
Jan 4, 2017


We'Re OuTdOoRs AnD dIsTaNcEd ThOuGh

Baronash
Feb 29, 2012

So what do you want to be called?

Bottom Liner posted:



this poo poo annoys me to no end. local name in our scene has been running these big group events for 6 months now. some of these people already gave each other covid and got real sick. loving idiots.

It's hard for me to imagine a cyclist hearing "potential for permanent lung damage" and not immediately locking themselves in a hermetically-sealed chamber.

hemale in pain
Jun 5, 2010






Salad Prong

Bottom Liner posted:



this poo poo annoys me to no end. local name in our scene has been running these big group events for 6 months now. some of these people already gave each other covid and got real sick. loving idiots.

I loving hate this! I've had goddamn pelotons of wankers pass me on the road and I just want to scream gently caress off at them.

Dren
Jan 5, 2001



Pillbug

i was thinking about riding with the local club if they wore masks but of course they donít

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004


Bottom Liner posted:



this poo poo annoys me to no end. local name in our scene has been running these big group events for 6 months now. some of these people already gave each other covid and got real sick. loving idiots.

loving Florida...

In actual content, can anyone recommend a bike lock for locking my bike to a tie down ring in my truck? I have a long road trip coming up in a month that Iíll be doing solo and I want a decent simple lock to lock my bike to my truck bed since Iíll almost certainly have to stop to pee at some point. It would probably also get some use on my gravel bike for short trips to the store. Basically Iím looking for something reasonably strong that would be able to loop through a tie down. Iím thinking maybe a U lock and cable might be the answer here since I donít really need the lock strength for truck use, just something to keep someone from just yanking it off my tailgate, which the cable should do fine.

Dren
Jan 5, 2001



Pillbug

rockcity posted:

loving Florida...

In actual content, can anyone recommend a bike lock for locking my bike to a tie down ring in my truck? I have a long road trip coming up in a month that Iíll be doing solo and I want a decent simple lock to lock my bike to my truck bed since Iíll almost certainly have to stop to pee at some point. It would probably also get some use on my gravel bike for short trips to the store. Basically Iím looking for something reasonably strong that would be able to loop through a tie down. Iím thinking maybe a U lock and cable might be the answer here since I donít really need the lock strength for truck use, just something to keep someone from just yanking it off my tailgate, which the cable should do fine.

I bought an ottolock hexband which seems fit for purpose for looping through stuff and stopping crimes of opportunity.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.




I wouldnít do a unlock or anything too heavy, it could damage the frame on the road when you hit big bumps. I use a ski lock which is cable style. It wonít stop any type of cutter but works well to stop a grab and run which is all I need.

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004


Bottom Liner posted:

I wouldnít do a unlock or anything too heavy, it could damage the frame on the road when you hit big bumps. I use a ski lock which is cable style. It wonít stop any type of cutter but works well to stop a grab and run which is all I need.

Yeah, if I did a U lock, I wouldnít actually use that part of the lock on the frame when in the truck. Iíd just wrap the cable through the front wheel, frame and tie down ring and then lock the ends together with the U lock. So more or less it would be a cable lock in the truck but a more secure one when out and about using the U lock properly.

Baronash
Feb 29, 2012

So what do you want to be called?

I just park next to whoever has the bike with the most carbon fiber. No keys to keep track of or combos to remember!

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009



rockcity posted:

loving Florida...

I travel for work and you can add Montana, North Dakota, Wyoming, Texas, Oklahoma, and parts of Colorado to that list covid deniers

OMGVBFLOL
Dec 20, 2003


is there a go-to site for finding mtb trails?

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006



Dinosaur Gum

I use a combination of trailforks for the more official trails and then strava segment explore and global heatmaps for the more sneaky unofficial ones.

vikingstrike
Sep 23, 2007

whats happening, captain

MTBProject worth mentioning too

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004


Ropes4u posted:

I travel for work and you can add Montana, North Dakota, Wyoming, Texas, Oklahoma, and parts of Colorado to that list covid deniers

Yeah, I'm glad my work travel dialed back significantly before COVID happened.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy



OMGVBFLOL posted:

is there a go-to site for finding mtb trails?

MTBproject is the best imo.

VacaGrande
Dec 24, 2003
God! A red nugget! A fat egg under a dog!

It really depends on where you are as to whether trailforks or MTBproject is better. I use both. The one thing MTBproject definitely has going for it is that they seem to actively prevent anyone from adding non-legal or poached trails. There are definitely trails on trailforks that are iffy from that perspective, at least around here.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy



VacaGrande posted:

It really depends on where you are as to whether trailforks or MTBproject is better. I use both. The one thing MTBproject definitely has going for it is that they seem to actively prevent anyone from adding non-legal or poached trails. There are definitely trails on trailforks that are iffy from that perspective, at least around here.

On MTB project they make you submit a map or some proof that it is a legal trail or they will not add it.

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii



VacaGrande posted:

It really depends on where you are as to whether trailforks or MTBproject is better. I use both. The one thing MTBproject definitely has going for it is that they seem to actively prevent anyone from adding non-legal or poached trails. There are definitely trails on trailforks that are iffy from that perspective, at least around here.

They also have a few different features where I use both. Most of the time it's MTB project because I think the interface is better, but if I'm in a new area I tend to reference both.

Because the MTB Project descriptions can be hilariously deceiving. "Minor technical challenges" usually feels like a code for "mandatory six foot drop."

Voodoofly
Jul 3, 2002

Some days even my
lucky rocketship underpants
don't help


This is going to be a strange question but does anyone know of any system where you can lock the crank/pedals from spinning backwards? Basically a coaster break style that doesnít actually break.

Iím basically riding e-mtb one legged because of spinal and nerve issues. My right leg is not strong enough for me to stand on the pedals without all my weight on the left pedal with the crank arms at 6 and 12. Iím also not strong enough to pedal standing because my right leg canít press the pedal down while standing.

Which means Iím going on beginner single tracks mostly in the saddle or, if itís clean enough, standing but my left foot all the way down. Iím sure if I do this enough Iíll break my foot or something worse. Riding in the saddle also has issues with balance and even just keeping my right leg on the pedal if I hit a big bump.

However my left leg is more than strong enough to support me standing up, hence Iím wondering if there is any way to get something (hopefully that I can activate and deactivate) that would allow me to lock the pedals at 3 and 9 when I press backwards on them.

I have zero idea if this is feasible or would exist in any fashion, but gently caress I want to ride cool trails despite my limitations. Preferably without breaking my foot.

meowmeowmeowmeow
Jan 4, 2017


I don't know of anythign like what you're describing and I think being on an eeb is gonna make it harder to find an off the shelf solution as you wont have a standard bottom bracket. Maybe try to get in contact with a place that makes adaptive mtbs and see if they have ideas or contacts for you? It'll probably be a custom or semi custom solution and its maybe something they've seen before.

OMGVBFLOL
Dec 20, 2003


+1 to adaptive cycling specialist, plus if you can get your doctor's referral your health insurance might take some of the cost

pinarello dogman
Jun 17, 2013



https://vimeo.com/524322982

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003



mexecan
Jul 10, 2006


Bike update. Selling the Specializef Stumpjumper Alloy (2018). Too much bike for me and the used market for anything trail oriented is kinda crazy right now.

LBS has a Ripley AF In stock. Thoughts on the IBIS S35 aluminum wheels that come standard in the build? I believe theyíre the same wheels as the Ripmo AF?

I have a set of Hunt Trail Wide wheels on order. A bit narrower internal width compared to the IBIS S35.

My focus of riding is definitely on the XC/down country/trail side of the spectrum, which is why Iím selling the Stumpy.

Thoughts? Keep the S35 hoops? Or sell them and keep the Huntís I currently have on order?

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself





mexecan posted:

Bike update. Selling the Specializef Stumpjumper Alloy (2018). Too much bike for me and the used market for anything trail oriented is kinda crazy right now.

LBS has a Ripley AF In stock. Thoughts on the IBIS S35 aluminum wheels that come standard in the build? I believe theyíre the same wheels as the Ripmo AF?

I have a set of Hunt Trail Wide wheels on order. A bit narrower internal width compared to the IBIS S35.

My focus of riding is definitely on the XC/down country/trail side of the spectrum, which is why Iím selling the Stumpy.

Thoughts? Keep the S35 hoops? Or sell them and keep the Huntís I currently have on order?

From the website they sound fine but can't speak from personal experience. Almost identical in weight vs. the Hunts and they worked with Stan's to make them so they're probably decent quality. Only unknown is the hub. I'd email Ibis to find out what the engagement is like (5 degrees on the Hunts will be great, anything 10 degrees or less will feel good enough for most) since to me at least that's somewhat important/nice to have. Sounds like a decent warranty on them as well. What tire size were you planning to run? Lower than 2.35" and the Hunts are better, maybe.

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar

Called my LBS and was told the SJ Evo Expert I have on order wonít be here by June 1st. I had mentally set that as a deadline so Iím not sure what to do. Iíve got myself convinced the swat box will be super sweet so Iím a bit stuck on that model. Any suggestions for a similar bike that I might be able to buy?

I think the two main options are wait it out and just get it when it comes in, or wait for the 2022 model which might have better components. It could also cost more and have roughly the same stuff.

OMGVBFLOL
Dec 20, 2003


what's the best approximation of a old rigid mountain bike in the new-bike market? a hybrid with knobbier tires? a gravel bike? aluminum frame with a steel fork and discs seems like it would be a nice way to get dirty without the cost and weight penalty of suspension

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009



OMGVBFLOL posted:

what's the best approximation of a old rigid mountain bike in the new-bike market? a hybrid with knobbier tires? a gravel bike? aluminum frame with a steel fork and discs would be nice without the cost and weight penalty of suspension

If you want the riding posture of a mountain bike you're looking for a mountain bike. If you want the riding posture of a road bike you want a gravel bike.

The bike you're thinking of that used to have no suspension now has front suspension so look for hardtails with the discs you want. Suspension forks aren't really heavier than rigid forks and the whole bike will be so much lighter now than you were used to that it's fine. A suspension fork that uses air for the spring will be especially light.

Examples (in my area):

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3011593/

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2988373/

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2998479/

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3022582/

You can also still find fully rigid bikes:

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3023094/

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2364611/

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3022654/

VelociBacon fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Mar 31, 2021

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005


Fun Shoe

OMGVBFLOL posted:

what's the best approximation of a old rigid mountain bike in the new-bike market? a hybrid with knobbier tires? a gravel bike? aluminum frame with a steel fork and discs seems like it would be a nice way to get dirty without the cost and weight penalty of suspension

Salsa Journeyman 650b flat bar.

EDIT: wtf the flat bar only comes in Claris or Sora that's super dumb the flat bar is begging for a 1x setup.

EvilJoven fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Mar 31, 2021

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


IF I'M TALKING ABOUT ART, I'M PROBABLY WRONG, SO PLEASE REPORT ME SO I CAN BE PROBATED. AGAIN.




OMGVBFLOL posted:

what's the best approximation of a old rigid mountain bike in the new-bike market? a hybrid with knobbier tires? a gravel bike? aluminum frame with a steel fork and discs seems like it would be a nice way to get dirty without the cost and weight penalty of suspension

If youíre talking classic like 80s style then yeah, basically a fat gravel bike with a flat bar is going to be the closest in feel and geometry. Any number of Surly bikes would work or old 90s frames that can be found for pennies.

https://mbaction.com/whats-the-most-influential-mountain-bike-of-the-1980s/amp/

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Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself





n8r posted:

Called my LBS and was told the SJ Evo Expert I have on order wonít be here by June 1st. I had mentally set that as a deadline so Iím not sure what to do. Iíve got myself convinced the swat box will be super sweet so Iím a bit stuck on that model. Any suggestions for a similar bike that I might be able to buy?

I think the two main options are wait it out and just get it when it comes in, or wait for the 2022 model which might have better components. It could also cost more and have roughly the same stuff.

FYI Trek stole the swat box and it's on the Fuels and maybe more of their bikes if you're really sold on that.



E: Slash is probably the most comparable travel wise (no idea about specs) but the fuel is a 140/130mm bike.

E2: wow they even do it on the aluminum bikes. I don't think spec does that so that's neat at least.

Suburban Dad fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Mar 31, 2021

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